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Grocery Union Threatens Pickets Across U.S., Canada
Reuters (via Yahoo News) ^
| 16 December 2003
| Sue Zeidler
Posted on 12/17/2003 11:33:14 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
Grocery Union Threatens Pickets Across U.S., Canada
Tue Dec 16, 7:55 PM ET
By Sue Zeidler
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Union leaders on Tuesday called for pickets of Safeway stores across North America in support of 70,000 Southern California grocery workers who have been out of work for two months in a contract dispute with Safeway and two other leading chains.
Over the next few weeks, the United Food and Commercial Workers union said it would ask consumers not to shop at Safeway stores. Protests could also broaden to include acts of civil disobedience by supporting religious groups, a union spokesman said after a rally in Los Angeles.
Talks between the UFCW, which represents some 1.4 million workers, and Safeway Inc., Albertsons Inc. and Kroger Co. are set to resume on Friday under federal mediation.
Both sides remain far apart on the key issue of how much the grocery chains should pay for employee health insurance coverage under a new contract. The union has singled out Safeway for taking the toughest line in negotiations.
The labor dispute has been widely watched both as a sign of the wider debate on U.S. employee health care coverage and for its potential to cut operating costs for the grocery chains, something they say they need to compete with cut-rate operators like Wal-Mart Stores Inc.
"We are going to target Safeway operations in the U.S. and Canada -- we are going to ask workers, consumers and communities to 'shop-out' and shut down Safeway's profits," Doug Dority, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers union, said at a news conference.
"We want to empty the stores as well as the cash drawers. Safeway only understands money, so we will take action to cut them off from the source of their money -- workers, consumers and communities," he said.
Labor leaders from across the country gathered on Tuesday to discuss the strike as thousands of strikers and supporters staged a march through the streets of Century City and Beverly Hills.
THREAT DISMISSED
Brian Dowling, a spokesman for Safeway, dismissed the threatened union action.
"This is nothing new. They've been calling for a version of this for a long time," noting that the union had recently picketed in Washington, D.C. and northern California with minimal impact.
"It's an old tactic and it won't impact what's going on in Southern California. The irony is we're going to the bargaining table on Friday and they're calling for a boycott," he said.
TWO-MONTH OLD DISPUTE
The strike began on Oct. 11, when workers staged a walkout at Safeway's Vons and Pavilions stores. The next day, Albertsons and Ralphs, a unit of Kroger, which bargain jointly with Safeway, locked out their unionized employees.
Talks have hit an impasse even though the financial pain on both sides has mounted.
Kroger, for example, posted third-quarter earnings that were half of what Wall Street had expected after the labor dispute drove shoppers away from its stores.
Striking workers, meanwhile, have been collecting strike pay of only about $200 a week from the UFCW, which has not said how much the strike has cost.
"We will not allow the elimination of health care benefits. We will not allow workers to be starved into giving up health care for their families," Dority said on Tuesday.
Others who spoke at the press conference included John Sweeney, president of the AFL-CIO umbrella union body; Melissa Gilbert, president of the Screen Actors Guild; and John Connelly, president of the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists.
Tuesday's gathering also served as a fundraiser, with various union leaders from around the country and Canada pledging money to help the striking workers.
"The UFCW International Union already has a financial package to fund the basic strike benefit well into the new year," said Dority, adding that "millions of dollars are being poured into Southern California to win this fight."
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: albertsons; grocerystores; kroger; labor; pavilions; pickets; safeway; strike; unions; unionthugs; vons
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Bust the unions!
To: CounterCounterCulture
This has been going on since mid-October. When do the stores get to hire other workers PERMANENTLY???
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posted on
12/17/2003 11:35:39 AM PST
by
BunnySlippers
(Help Bring Colly-fornia Back ...)
Associated Press version...
Unions Want Boycott for Grocery Clerks
Tue Dec 16,11:14 PM ET By ALEX VEIGA, AP Business Writer LOS ANGELES - Union leaders plan to urge members to boycott North American stores owned by Safeway Inc. in support of 70,000 grocery clerks who've been on strike for two months in Southern California.
"We want to empty those stores," said Doug Dority, international president of the United Food and Commercial Workers, on Tuesday. "We want to make sure these cash registers are empty."
Safeway, Albertsons Inc. and Kroger Co. are locked in the dispute with their Southern California workers over the cost of health care coverage and other issues.
Union leaders have said they consider Safeway the leader of the management side.
In some cases, the UFCW also planned to extend picket lines to Safeway stores outside the region in an attempt to keep employees from reporting to work, said UFCW national spokesman Greg Denier.
He declined to say when the boycott campaign would begin.
Safeway officials said they didn't expect the tactic to influence the dispute.
The unions' strategy was announced after 500 leaders and workers met for two hours behind closed doors at a hotel and then marched with thousands of other workers to a supermarket in Beverly Hills.
Clerks went on strike or were locked out Oct. 11 at nearly 860 Ralphs, Albertsons, Vons and Pavilions stores from San Diego to San Luis Obispo. Safeway owns the Vons and Pavilion chains.
Negotiations were scheduled to resume Friday for the first time in 10 days.
The UFCW said the chains had shaved $1.08 an hour off their proposed contribution to health care premiums.
The grocery companies countered they were no longer willing to absorb all the costs involved in maintaining health care benefits, saying they face pressure from Wal-Mart, Costco and other supermarket operators that don't pay as much toward employee benefits.
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posted on
12/17/2003 11:36:58 AM PST
by
CounterCounterCulture
(America works best without union pests --- UNION NO!)
To: CounterCounterCulture
This is getting old. Imo, the unions are being unreasonable.
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posted on
12/17/2003 11:37:12 AM PST
by
TheSpottedOwl
(Happy Iraqi Independence Day!!!!)
To: CounterCounterCulture
I never shop at Safeway, but if these twits start picketing, guess where my next grocery trip is to.
5
posted on
12/17/2003 11:37:40 AM PST
by
Don W
(Never does nature say one thing and wisdom another. <I>Juvenal, Satires</I>)
To: CounterCounterCulture
why on earth would they do that? the pickets arent being honored here in LA, and most of their membership is looking for lower paying jobs...
To: CounterCounterCulture
Looks like I'm going to be shopping at Safeway a lot soon.
To: CounterCounterCulture
I wish the unionists would do their walking around here---that would give me an excuse to shop there.
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posted on
12/17/2003 11:45:04 AM PST
by
eleni121
To: BurbankKarl
why on earth would they do that? the pickets arent being honored here in LA, and most of their membership is looking for lower paying jobs... The pickets are being honored out here in Ontario (suburbia), out here there are already plenty of alternatives to Albertsons, Vons, and Ralphs. Combined with the teamsters sympathy strikes at distribution warehoueses and there is NO POINT in crossing the picket lines. The stores are largely empty of merchandise anyhow, and their bakeries, pharmacies, delli's are all closed (which is the main reason to go to a store like Alebertson's anyhow).
A pox on both their houses.
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posted on
12/17/2003 11:49:18 AM PST
by
Smogger
To: CounterCounterCulture
I live next door in Nevada and shop at Safeway. It'll be interesting to see if my store strikes....a week before Christmas.
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posted on
12/17/2003 11:52:00 AM PST
by
randog
(Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
To: Smogger
thats not true...the stores have stuff delivered by vendors and non union trucks.....yes, there are shortages....
of course, now a group of us is hitting Wal-Mart every 10 days.....man are their prices low!
To: CounterCounterCulture
These union fat cats would happily starve millions of Americans if it allowed them to get a nickel more in union dues. And, they wonder why millions of jobs flee the country to escape their extortion.
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posted on
12/17/2003 11:53:07 AM PST
by
Tacis
To: BurbankKarl
yes, there are shortages.... Running out of microwave popcorn, and dogfood is what I would call a BIGTIME shortage. And this is at FOOD 4 LESS which is only affected by the Teamsters sympathy strike NOT by picketers.
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posted on
12/17/2003 12:00:21 PM PST
by
Smogger
To: CounterCounterCulture
"Over the next few weeks, the United Food and Commercial Workers union said it would ask consumers not to shop at Safeway stores. Protests could also broaden to include acts of civil disobedience by supporting religious groups, a union spokesman said after a rally in Los Angeles.""Religious groups" and unions. What a combinatiom. If anyone needed any more evidence that the WCC is the Enemy, this should convince them.
Up theirs. THIS consumer will shop wherever she darned well PLEASES, and is NOW more likely to stop at stores that ARE being picketed.
Unions have been ruining this country since the '70's. We NEED a national right to work law.
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posted on
12/17/2003 12:01:08 PM PST
by
cake_crumb
(UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
To: CounterCounterCulture
Others who spoke at the press conference included John Sweeney, president of the AFL-CIO umbrella union body; Melissa Gilbert, president of the Screen Actors Guild. . .It appears as though half-pint has developed into a half-wit.
Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp
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posted on
12/17/2003 12:03:20 PM PST
by
mikeb704
To: CounterCounterCulture
"We will not allow the elimination of health care benefits"Grey signed legislation forcing companies to pay health benefits to gay partners, didn't he? Companies can't afford it.
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posted on
12/17/2003 12:17:54 PM PST
by
cake_crumb
(UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
To: Tacis
These union fat cats would happily starve millions of Americans if it allowed them to get a nickel more in union dues. And, they wonder why millions of jobs flee the country to escape their extortion.These idiots - the true sheeple of this country - have NO clue why we cross the picket lines. BTW I find it so much nicer shopping in an uncrowed store with people who look happy to be working rather than before when again THEIR social schedule talking to their co-workers while I was in line. I just hope that the stores (in this issue) hold out forever. I do not want these ingrates back in my face ever again.
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posted on
12/17/2003 12:19:34 PM PST
by
Digger
To: CounterCounterCulture
Not a problem down here. Good luck to the rest of you.
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posted on
12/17/2003 12:31:09 PM PST
by
Beck_isright
(This tag line edited by the 9th Circuit Court due to offensive political commentary)
To: CounterCounterCulture
You can bet I'll be doing ALL my shopping at Safeway!!
To: cake_crumb
We NEED a national right to work law. California is already a "right to work" state. You can by terminated at any time for any reason. Likewise you can quit at anytime for any reason. Furthermore, you can't be bound by non-competition clauses.
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posted on
12/17/2003 12:42:12 PM PST
by
Smogger
To: Smogger
head to walmart....
shaving creme... 88 cents
deodorant ... $2
extralarge TUMS $5 <--for watching CNN
To: CounterCounterCulture
"...locked out their unionized employees."Look them all out! And don't rehire them. Let these leeches and shakedown artists go destroy some other business.
To: Don W
I was going to pick up items I knew would be in stock at Smart & Final today. Instead it will be second on my list if I can't find what I need at Vons (Safeway).
These spoiled union parasites need to be taught a lesson. My animosity toward them will not go away even if they decide to settle.
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posted on
12/17/2003 12:50:13 PM PST
by
Bernard Marx
("Do what you are afraid to do." Anonymous.)
To: cake_crumb
"Unions have been ruining this country since the '70's."'30s.
To: CounterCounterCulture
Striking workers, meanwhile, have been collecting strike pay of only about $200 a week from the UFCW, which has not said how much the strike has cost. A different news article on FR recently said the San Diego county union locals of UFCW were reducing the strike pay from $300/wk to only $100/wk, with $150 for strike captains. The strikers probably won't want to keep striking with such low pay.
If all 70,000 striking grocery employees were getting $200/wk for nine weeks, the product would be $126 million. There's the additional union loss of the potential union dues during those nine weeks.
I wonder if these strikers have health coverage during the strike period. It wouldn't make sense for Ralphs/Albertsons/Vons to pay for health coverage if the strikers aren't working, but I doubt the unions would pay, either.
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posted on
12/17/2003 12:59:14 PM PST
by
heleny
To: BunnySlippers
When do the stores get to hire other workers PERMANENTLY???Someone posted on another thread that he asked his Albertsons store that question, and the reply was that they could close for 30 days, and, upon reopening, they could hire the new people permanently. Apparently, they're actually considering doing that.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:01:46 PM PST
by
heleny
To: Tacis
You said it, its the union leaders that tell the unionised employess to strike, then the employees receive strike pay, some times the pay is 1/2, to 1/4 of their actual wage...meanwhile the union leaders pull up in there mercedes while collecting there full wage salarlies and tell the picketers that they are doing a great job...and that the union needs them out there picketing..
Very "Animal Farm" if you ask me...
To: Smogger
Unless your company's headquarters are in a non right to work state, apparently. For a right to work state, CA sure has a lot of different unions that have an awful lot of influence. Sounds more like it's a right to work state mostly in name only.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:08:02 PM PST
by
cake_crumb
(UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
To: Don W
I never shop at Safeway, but if these twits start picketing, guess where my next grocery trip is to. I used to shop Ralphs, but because the strikers aren't picketing Ralphs, the store gets too crowded on weekends.
I now go to Albertsons or Vons, where I can shop in peaceful, wide-open aisles. The shelves and produce are all neat, too, (except for the expired milk). I can also worry less about ill people coughing or sneezing everywhere inside the store.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:08:04 PM PST
by
heleny
To: heleny
...they could close for 30 days, and, upon reopening, they could hire the new people permanently.I'm not sure that's true. Besides, how would that help them? The stores are free to hire replacement workers (they would have to give the strikers their jobs back after the strike, however) and run their stores as they normally would. Even if they shut down for 30 days, the situation remains the same--the picketers are out front and the Teamsters et.al. are still sympathy striking.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:08:49 PM PST
by
randog
(Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
To: CounterCounterCulture
Unions are thugs.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:10:02 PM PST
by
Protagoras
(Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
To: CounterCounterCulture
"We want to empty the stores as well as the cash drawers. Safeway only understands money, so we will take action to cut them off from the source of their money -- workers, consumers and communities," he said. OK. Now where do you intend to work after you "empty the cash drawers"? Safeway understands money enough to know that they won't be in business very long if they operate at a loss.
Bring in the WalMart!
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:12:33 PM PST
by
meyer
To: Protagoras
Unions are thugs. There is sure a lot of union bashing on this thread. I wonder if all if you will take the same stance when the Sheriff's, local police, firefighters, and prison guards conduct a work action.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:14:25 PM PST
by
Smogger
To: Smogger
The stores are largely empty of merchandise Not here in San Diego. The shelves are well-organized. Maybe they'll be missing one of the ten available varieties of each thing, but that's hardly "empty." Vons had some good sale prices on a few items, and they actually didn't run out of the sale items, unlike in the past when the sale items would always run out before the weekend.
bakeries, pharmacies, deli's are all closed (which is the main reason to go to a store like Alebertson's anyhow).
I think some just have reduced hours, but they're not all closed; I saw that the pharmacies are open reduced hours. I don't use those services, but the stores are probably losing a lot of their profits from those high-margin services. Meat counters were closed when I went to Ralphs a few weeks ago.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:15:13 PM PST
by
heleny
To: cake_crumb
For a right to work state, CA sure has a lot of different unions that have an awful lot of influence. The ones that wield the most influence in this state are the public employees unions: police, sheriffs, firefighters, teachers, clerks, and prison guards. Paticularly the prison guards.
Grocery store employees don't wield very much power here in Cali.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:16:54 PM PST
by
Smogger
To: Smogger
California is already a "right to work" state. No, it's not.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:17:17 PM PST
by
heleny
To: randog
I'm not sure that's true. Besides, how would that help them? The stores are free to hire replacement workers (they would have to give the strikers their jobs back after the strike, however) and run their stores as they normally would. Even if they shut down for 30 days, the situation remains the same--the picketers are out front and the Teamsters et.al. are still sympathy striking.I don't know, either, since there weren't many details. The idea was to bust the union, so that their strikers wouldn't keep striking if they all lost their jobs. Maybe the stores would close permanently, and new stores (under the same owner) would use the old locations.
The Teamsters don't like this strike at all. Apparently, they're not getting strike pay, and some still remember that the grocery store union didn't support the Teamsters when they were on strike.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:24:27 PM PST
by
heleny
To: heleny
The Teamsters don't like this strike at all. Apparently, they're not getting strike pay, and some still remember that the grocery store union didn't support the Teamsters when they were on strike. My neighbor is one of the striking teamster's that recounted this little bit for me.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:26:41 PM PST
by
Smogger
To: Smogger
A pox on both their houses. I remember when the unions drove Safeway clear out of Texas, about 12 years ago. Safeway stores became Apple Tree, which was later bought out by Randall's, which had higher prices and fewer stores than Safeway.
I usually shop at both Safeway and Albertsons here in No. California, but I will be doing all of my shopping at Safeway, until this blows over. Besides, Safeway has home delivery, no delivery fee on orders over $150, the same prices as in the store, and really fresh meats and produce.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:30:41 PM PST
by
giotto
To: giotto
It was likely massive debt from Safeway's enormous leverage buy out in the late 80's led by KKR (same ppl that LBO'd RJR Nabisco) They abandoned Southern California around the same time.
They still are saddled with a crippling multi-billion dollar debt from that LBO and subsequent takeovers of Vons, and a Chicago based grocer among others. They simply paid too much for those acquisitions.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:36:23 PM PST
by
Smogger
To: CounterCounterCulture
Union leaders on Tuesday called for pickets of Safeway stores across North America
in support of 70,000 Southern California grocery workers who have been out
of work for two months in a contract dispute with Safeway and two other leading chains.
These "union leaders" must be on the payroll of Wal-Mart!
First, they enthusiatically support illegal immigration...thus ensuring a
growing supply of workers willing, ready and able to take what these same
union leaders would call "scab" jobs.
Second, they are doing all they can to weaken their employers when Wal-Mart is
just about to invade Southern California...when Wal-Mart arrives with lots of
lower prices, more than a few of the stores of these wounded chains will be shuttered.
Finally, going on strike and trying to keep the customers (who pay both the
supermarket bosses, the union leaders and the union members) out of the stores
over two major holidays when sales are HUGH...
Dumb and dumber...
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:46:32 PM PST
by
VOA
To: heleny
That is a terrible way to bust a union. Means the company must, in essense, go out of business for one month!
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:52:23 PM PST
by
BunnySlippers
(Help Bring Colly-fornia Back ...)
To: BurbankKarl
In the LA I live in ... Brentwood and Hollywood, the picket lines are largely being honored. My local Gelson's has gotten a lot of the run-over business.
I routinely cross the lines at Von's and Ralph's (no lines) but the shelves are very sparse. And the crowds at Von's and Ralph's are small.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:55:32 PM PST
by
BunnySlippers
(Help Bring Colly-fornia Back ...)
To: BurbankKarl
Their membership, the ones who work at Safeway, should be asking their union leaders why they are organizing a boycott? Even if partially successful, less business means less need for workers, and union employees in Safeway stores would face a lay-off.
I live in So. Cal. The union has screwed their members royally. The strike is now in its third month with no end in sight. These workers will never get back the wages they lost. Once the strike is over, you can count on the supers announcing that quite a few of their stores will be closing. There is an over supply of supermarkets in So Cal. The marginal ones will be closed and the union members will be on the street.
Wal Mart is just now entering the metropolitan areas of CA with their Super Wal Mart stores. In another 2 years, the supers will be decimated unless they get their labor costs under control now.
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posted on
12/17/2003 1:56:04 PM PST
by
CdMGuy
To: Smogger
There is sure a lot of union bashing on this thread.
Damn right. Happy to see it.
I wonder if all if you will take the same stance when the Sheriff's, local police, firefighters, and prison guards conduct a work action.
Public servants should not conduct work actions if they really care about the people. Get union thugs out of vital government services now.
To: Smogger
Unions and unions and unions are all thugs. Makes no difference who, what or where they represent. Since the mid 70's they have become a scourge on this country.
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posted on
12/17/2003 2:13:40 PM PST
by
cksharks
To: CdMGuy
I think the first SuperWalmart opens in Palm Desert 1st quarter 2004....
Gilroy 12/2004
Woodland approved
Yuba City approved
Redding approved
Chico approved
Calexico approved
Lodi voting
Manteca voting
Inglewood 2005
Turlock just voted them down
Contra Costa County, Martinez, Oakland, Simi Valley, Paso Robles zoned them out
To: Smogger
They're only a small minorty of union workers. UAW, Teamsters and AFLCIO have pretty much ruined our economy, the NEA is a rabid socialist organization out to steal our country and the hearts and minds of our children. We have no way to make laws to limit the power of unions, so if they go on strike and especially if they get violent with the scabs, yes. Sorry.
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posted on
12/17/2003 2:33:54 PM PST
by
cake_crumb
(UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
To: cake_crumb
They're only a small minorty of union workers. UAW, Teamsters and AFLCIO have pretty much ruined our economy Now it's only a "small minority" of unions that have "ruined our economy"? But the other posters claim all are a "scourge" on our country.
Whatever. I have only been represented by a union once in my short life and I don't recall being much of a "thug" at the time or seeing it as a bad thing. Now that I am an older management type (a programmer not represented by a union) let me tell you if my company tried to screw me over, my "work action" would hurt their bottom line considerably more then standing out in front of their building with a picket sign.
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posted on
12/17/2003 2:39:40 PM PST
by
Smogger
To: CounterCounterCulture
Ummmmm, these grocery workers led by their union thug leaders?
...they're really asking for it.
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posted on
12/17/2003 2:43:14 PM PST
by
Landru
(Tagline Schmagline...just a drag on my line.)
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