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I am a Conservative. Hear Me Roar!

Posted on 12/17/2003 9:21:49 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

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To: mhking
This is as good as your rant a while back!
51 posted on 12/17/2003 10:04:42 PM PST by cyborg
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To: longtermmemmory
Is that what that is? It looks like someone rubbed grease on the lens.
52 posted on 12/17/2003 10:05:19 PM PST by cyborg
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To: ConservativeMan55
Yes, it was well stated and clear.

I would argue that elections alone will not solve the problem. I remember the real McGovern. I remember that Nixon won in 1972 with just over 60 percent of the popular vote and won the electoral vote 520 to 17. Yet, within two years the left drove him from office. Do not believe that Nixon brought it all on himself. Yes, covering up to protect his people was a mistake, but it was SOP for politicians. Both parties bugged each other, both parties did dirty tricks (Dick Tuck was the Dems' master and the media loved him), and both parties covered up.

Nixon was hated by the left beginning from the time he was an anti-Communist congressman in the late 1940s. It appears to me that President Bush is hated at least as much. Once "Watergate" got started there was little else the media talked about. There was some honest reporting even without talk radio and the Internet but you had to look for it. Most people watched TV network "news." I remember asking my younger co-workers what did Nixon do? None could really answer beyond, he lied.

There may not be a "Watergate" today but today's news contains a story about just who, by name, was responsible for "letting" 9/11 happen -- you know what all the forces of the left will do with that story in an election year. Next year may be when we learn just what it takes to stop the left from motivating our enemies by destroying ANOTHER wartime administration. Never again!

53 posted on 12/17/2003 10:06:32 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: ConservativeMan55
"We Got Him!" :)

54 posted on 12/17/2003 10:07:24 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
The religious groups had a good idea when they started taking over school boards. Too bad that died out.

all politics are local.
55 posted on 12/17/2003 10:08:11 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
"They are ANGRY they are dying. It is part of the morning process in any death. (I forget the steps of mourning)"

Anger is the first step, or one of the first.

But I don't think they are dying, I think they are imploding, so they may not get a chance to do all the steps.

Oh, and btw, the woman that came up with that whole "steps of grief" concept, Elizabeth Kubler-Ross, she got VERY wacky. I don't mean to discredit her concept, but she got seriously new-agey wacko, before it was fashionable. I mean she had spirit-guides and everything. Quite strange.
56 posted on 12/17/2003 10:08:55 PM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do!)
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To: ConservativeMan55
...as far as spelling and grammar?

Just a couple of things:

camoflauge = camouflage
its = it's
ok = OK
"over the edge." = "over the edge?"
'pandered' = "pandered"

There may be others. I hope it helps.

57 posted on 12/17/2003 10:11:40 PM PST by Consort
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To: ConservativeMan55
BTTT!

58 posted on 12/17/2003 10:13:19 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We are Storming the Battlements, Razing the Arguments, Writing the Installments.)
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To: ConservativeMan55; 007Dawg; 11B3; 123easy; 1911A1; 7mmMag@LeftCoast; A44MAGNUT; Acrobat; ...
Battle Cry!

It is time to win this country BACK!

I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed in their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is 'needed' before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents' interests, I shall reply that I was informed their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can. - by Barry Goldwater, "The Conscience of a Conservative"
59 posted on 12/17/2003 10:16:31 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We are Storming the Battlements, Razing the Arguments, Writing the Installments.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I think your "rant" was good, and you echo many of my thoughts. Lord knows we all need to rant once in awhile. I have been blessed with two sisters, who are my best friends as well, and we call each other constantly just to rant, or as we call it, vent.
We were burning up the phone lines during the Sawyer/President Bush interview.
Just a couple of things I'd like to add:

Watch out for Clark. He's rising a bit in the polls, and he might strike a chord with Dems who want to feel they are patriotic. I know this makes no sense to most of us, but remember, there are some that could be blinded by his sueudo military background.
Even if you don't agree with President Bush on every issue, vote for him anyway. We can't afford a replay of the "Perot" fiasco.
Remember, there are strength in numbers. I have been a part of the silent majority for way too long. When I discovered this website, I immediately knew I had found a home. Let's be thankful that we have a place to express our conservative thoughts. I know I am.

60 posted on 12/17/2003 10:24:10 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: ConservativeMan55; mhking
Great rant and you made the Just Damn list!(You must find a way to stop talking to yourself,tho...LOL)
61 posted on 12/17/2003 10:44:54 PM PST by MEG33
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To: ConservativeMan55
BTT
62 posted on 12/17/2003 10:50:21 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Count me in as one that agrees this should go to your local newspapers! Reaching out to the politically unaware voter is, IMHO, the most effective way of moving the country further to the right.

I don't see how your essay can miss making people really question where they stand on the political spectrum :-)
63 posted on 12/17/2003 11:10:09 PM PST by Tamzee (Pennsylvanians for Bush! Join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PA4BushCheney/)
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To: ConservativeMan55
It's well stated, and sums up alot of ideas succinctly. I don't think it's too long, but they might edit a sentence here or there. I think it's a great article just how it is, send it to your local papers and see if they have the nerve to print it.
64 posted on 12/18/2003 12:26:06 AM PST by enuu
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To: ConservativeMan55
I like it. You hit a lot of good points.

The one paragraph I think needs a little work is the fourth one. The opening sentence, tired of not being pandered to, and the one about demanding govt action in my best interests, make you sound like you want govt to take care of you. This is not what you intend to portray.

I think you should dust it off in the morning, run through a editing session, and fire it off to your paper. Journalists do a lot of editing.

What type of journalist do you want to be?
65 posted on 12/18/2003 2:38:39 AM PST by RobFromGa (Bring Us Your Talented Individuals, Your Visionaries Yearning to Be Free. Keep the Huddled Masses)
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To: ConservativeMan55
BTTT!!!!!!
66 posted on 12/18/2003 3:03:36 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: ConservativeMan55
Any specific suggestions as to how to correct the situation?

Carolyn

67 posted on 12/18/2003 3:07:28 AM PST by CDHart
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To: ConservativeMan55
Campaign Finance Reform was the worst thing that we could have let happen. In effect our leaders are telling us to shut up.

I don't agree with certain aspects of CFR as passed, but the way it was previously, they had already told us to shut up.....unless you're ready to open your checkbook. Access to my elected representatives should not be limited to my ability to write a check. Those SOB's better be ready to listen to me when I have a concern, money in hand or not.

68 posted on 12/18/2003 3:10:51 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: ConservativeMan55
It's perfect, ConservativeMan. Well done!
69 posted on 12/18/2003 3:21:18 AM PST by Ferret Fawcet (Jesus: He paid a debt He did not owe because I owed a debt I could not pay.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Good Rant!
70 posted on 12/18/2003 3:57:23 AM PST by Pippin ( Saddam Hussien: The biggest WMD!)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Most excellent Rant...

Bravo....

71 posted on 12/18/2003 4:00:14 AM PST by DollyCali (Spell Button: to cast a spell on recipient of post)
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To: ConservativeMan55
FANTASTIC rant! A great way to start my day---with hope and inspiration. "Let's roar!" :o)
72 posted on 12/18/2003 4:05:58 AM PST by arasina (What will YOU do when Howard Dean or Hillary Clinton is president?)
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To: ConservativeMan55
"Dittos"

Rant on Man rant on.........
73 posted on 12/18/2003 4:27:05 AM PST by Rightly Biased (<><)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Well stated CM55...but too much common sense for liberals.

74 posted on 12/18/2003 4:28:45 AM PST by NewLand (economy's up, democrats down, we found Saddam in a hole in the ground...)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I remember asking my younger co-workers what did Nixon do? None could really answer beyond, he lied.

I remember the watergate series of disclosures, every day it was something new. Then came the disclosure that every conversation had been taped by Nixon himself. On the tape he came across as a vulger man who was very suspecious of the electorate who overwhelmingly elected him. He did bring it on himself, by revealing his true personality to the voters. He could have withstood the burglery and bugging if he came clean before the world found out about the tapes. BTW, his use of the F word was much the same as Kerry, and he will be destroyed by this as well, even though the use of vulgarity is more common today, people do not want this in their leadership.

Memo to future presidents, forget the auto tape system, find a way to conduct the secret parts of the mission in secret, and have a moral compass.

75 posted on 12/18/2003 4:40:53 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Excellent.
76 posted on 12/18/2003 4:44:20 AM PST by petuniasevan (Cat Game #10: Hide and go puke.)
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To: longtermmemmory
did you notice the diane sawyer use of soft focus filter as they did in the old star trek series?

That's to conceal the fact that Sawyer is, like, eighty years old.

77 posted on 12/18/2003 5:05:31 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: ConservativeMan55
"I detest vote drives. Instead, we should have information awareness drives. You shouldn't vote merely for the symbolism of voting. You should vote because you've got an issue in mind."

Now that you mention voting, it is hard to imagine a voter being 'undeceided' weeks, even days before an election, especially a Presidential election. If you are serious about voting, you should have some opinion prior to entering a voting booth. IMHO
78 posted on 12/18/2003 5:06:48 AM PST by duckman
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To: KC_for_Freedom
RE: "On the tape he [Nixon] came across as a vulger man who was very suspecious of the electorate"

I did not have the opportunity to listen to all the tapes, just what the media made available to the public. Obviously you had privileges the average American did not have.

It would indeed be surprising to learn that the man was vulgar and suspicious 24/7 thus "revealing his true personality." I don't buy it.

I shared Nixon's defensive attitude toward the liberal media then just as I scrutinize the mainstream media today. There is no question that they hated Richard Nixon then and will always despise the man.

President Bush is hated today by the very same people. As we see, getting the truth is secondary to getting the man.

79 posted on 12/18/2003 5:47:48 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: ConservativeMan55
And lots more ... Bump!
80 posted on 12/18/2003 6:14:01 AM PST by Phaedrus
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To: ConservativeMan55
I may have to introduce you to my adult daughter. She's one nugde away from becoming a Republican, even tho she exists in a sea of Democrats.
81 posted on 12/18/2003 6:17:57 AM PST by T Minus Four
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To: ConservativeMan55
BTTT
82 posted on 12/18/2003 6:26:24 AM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: ConservativeMan55
I'll second that!
83 posted on 12/18/2003 6:28:41 AM PST by b4its2late (I love defenseless animals, especially in a good gravy.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
As a rant aficionado, I'd say it was a pretty good one. Nice texture and aftertaste, could use a little bit more aging for depth and/or full bodiness.

I'd give it an 8 on a scale of 1- 10, Add half a point if woke up in a bad mood today.
84 posted on 12/18/2003 6:35:00 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: ConservativeMan55
CM55 Diatribe BTTT
85 posted on 12/18/2003 7:16:38 AM PST by Ranxerox
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To: ConservativeMan55
I noticed your link on the threads I was perusing. I finally bit, and I am glad I did. Great piece, well written, and I agree with it one hundred percent.
86 posted on 12/18/2003 7:28:13 AM PST by woodyinscc
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To: ConservativeMan55
"California failed because the so called leaders attempted to stay in power by bribing special interest groups. You see this same problem on a smaller scale all around the country in each state. The more liberalism that is inserted, the more misery and failure you see."

Great rant!
Best, IA
87 posted on 12/18/2003 7:36:36 AM PST by international american
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To: ConservativeMan55
ConservativeMan55 ~ thanks for your contribution to the conversation ~ Good Stuff!
88 posted on 12/18/2003 7:45:32 AM PST by blackie
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To: ConservativeMan55
The government should focus on delivering the mail, securing the borders

.. and until they can get both of those consistently right, we shouldn't put a whole lot more on their plate.

89 posted on 12/18/2003 7:55:44 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Ah...Grasshoppah....you will soon be the master..... ;-)

CM55...as always, all the best!

Lando

90 posted on 12/18/2003 7:57:35 AM PST by Lando Lincoln (The Vermin had vermin)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Nice rant -- are you going after Dennis Miller's job on H&C?? They need someone and I think you could fill the bill!! :o) FRegards!
91 posted on 12/18/2003 8:26:25 AM PST by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: ConservativeMan55
It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.--Samuel Adams

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
--Samuel Adams


We need people to go on daily rants of the type that Patrick Henry and Samuel Adams did. They not only talked liberty, they preached it. I believe that the natural condition of man is not freedom, but slavery. Freedom is the preferable condition but not one which, over time, people will choose. At the first opportunity men will usually sell themselves into slavery for for security and comfort. They are like cattle. Cows used to be wild animals, but became tamed in exchange for the certainty of food on a daily basis and protection from preditors. All that had to be exchanged for this was giving up one of their own from time to time to be eaten by their keepers. It takes freedom loving men setting "the brush fires in people's minds" on a daily basis to force people to think about what is in their own interest.

Rant on.
92 posted on 12/18/2003 9:18:31 AM PST by seowulf
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To: ConservativeMan55
Ditto for me!
93 posted on 12/18/2003 10:24:15 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: ConservativeMan55
Fantastic! Wish I had the ability to put my thoughts into words like that! Good Job Bump!
94 posted on 12/18/2003 1:52:22 PM PST by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: samiam1972
Thanks! BTTT!!!
95 posted on 12/18/2003 1:53:02 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (A tiger is a tiger. Some things you can't change no matter how hard you try.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
good one!
96 posted on 12/18/2003 1:53:06 PM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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To: Terriergal
Thank You!
97 posted on 12/18/2003 1:53:27 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (A tiger is a tiger. Some things you can't change no matter how hard you try.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
BTTT!!
98 posted on 12/18/2003 1:55:37 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (A tiger is a tiger. Some things you can't change no matter how hard you try.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I shared Nixon's defensive attitude toward the liberal media then just as I scrutinize the mainstream media today. There is no question that they hated Richard Nixon then and will always despise the man.

I apologize for giving the impression that I listened to tapes that you did not. I was commenting from the observations of those who had listened to the tapes and were sorry to see Nixon go. (They may have had the agenda you suggest, sorry at the time I did not have the perspective to question presented data.) The observations were that Nixon used very salty language and referred to people with contempt. (Not hard to believe, hence my comment that taping oneself is not a good idea).

You are correct in having contempt for the liberal media and their presentation today about Bush speaks volumes about how they treated Nixon at that time. Please allow me to withdraw any criticism of Nixon, (my parents were active supporters of his campaign). I was young and far too unwise to comment as I did.

99 posted on 12/18/2003 3:45:17 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
It wasn't so much a rant but a sincere statement of conservative principles. What a great mind that speaks such truths.
100 posted on 12/18/2003 5:43:08 PM PST by truthandjustice1
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