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Collusion: The Day Before the 2000 Election
A Publius Essay | 18 December 2003 | Publius

Posted on 12/18/2003 12:13:45 PM PST by Publius

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To: RecallMoran; Publius

60% of the electorate has little to no confidence in the network news.

Both Rathergate and the Kopple piece have been aired and Dubya is up in the polls.

They may have done what Publius suggests (fantastic script!!!). It seems plausible to me and so does the NSA involvement in the 2002 uplink failures. But the people have awakened enough that they aren't being conned. Most of the kids I know tell me they learned early in life to pretend they accepted the inculcations in school and the media and continued with their own private thoughts. One young man told me:"You just learn who is telling you the truth." All of them grin like mad when I ask them how they beat the liberal indoctrination.

Maybe the complicit establishment won't bust the nets, but the people already have.


81 posted on 10/15/2004 3:50:46 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal; RecallMoran

Now that they have NEP instead of VNS, they may try it again. But there's no doubt in my mind that the NSA would shut them down again the minute they made a suspect call.


82 posted on 10/15/2004 3:59:28 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Publius

Wait, wait, wait. I think I'm behind. Why would the National Security Admin (right?) have shut down VNS? Even though I like the idea.


83 posted on 10/15/2004 5:53:30 PM PDT by RecallMoran (The left would RATHER lie)
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To: RecallMoran
My belief is that the entities that formed VNS engaged in a conspiracy to throw the election of 2000. The Bush folks figured this out after it was over and decided to make sure that VNS didn't try it again in 2002.

The only thing other than sunspots that could shut down every VNS satellite uplink is the National Security Agency (NSA). It would only do so under orders of the president, but because presidents like to have deniability in situations like this, my suspicion is that Cheney made the call. Thus we avoided a repeat of 2000 in 2002.

84 posted on 10/15/2004 6:40:59 PM PDT by Publius
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To: cars for sale
because I've posted it 5 times in the last 4 months to no avail

What gives? I haven't the faintest what you are talking about either! Sometimes you just have to keep pluggin. I know of no-one that should ridicule as long as you have a valid point. Maybe you just haven't reached the right individuals.

85 posted on 10/29/2004 1:50:11 AM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (Carnivores for conservatism)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Day-before-the-election ping.


86 posted on 11/01/2004 12:58:09 PM PST by Publius (Digital Minuteman)
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To: Publius
DNC: Florida is an unusual state. It’s split between two time zones with a single time for the closing of the polls. That means that the polls in Florida close twice, once for each time zone. The Eastern time zone is dominated by Democratic votes in South Florida, and the Central time zone by Republican votes in redneck country. Suppose, just for the sake of argument, the networks call Florida for Gore when the polls in the Eastern time zone shut down.

CNN: You just skated off the edge. That’s illegal!

DNC: It’s a violation of administrative law, not criminal law. The fine is chump change.

The MSM has already been trying to "project" the results over early polling yet the polls have not CLOSED. They are already trying to influence the outcome in some states.

87 posted on 11/01/2004 2:30:26 PM PST by weegee (4 out of 3 Democrats will vote for Kerry this election.)
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To: weegee

And so the collusion continues, but less blatant this time.


88 posted on 11/01/2004 2:32:21 PM PST by Publius (Digital Minuteman)
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To: Publius; HaveGunWillTravel; teeman8r; E.G.C.; imintrouble
Not true - certainly not true that FNC called FL for Bush before about 3AM - and even then, it was Bush's cousin who pushed for the call.

I am not certain that Fox followed the other networks into calling for Gore in the 9PM time frame or not - but I believe that it did. And that all of them rescinded that call an hour or two (maybe three) later.

It was amazing how little the networks said Wednesday morning about their own faux pas and how very much they made of the fact that the FNC analyst who made the first call of FL for Bush was actually a cousin of Bush.

But FL was just the extreme example of the general tendency of the night - which was that all the networks and CNN delayed calling just about every state for Bush far more than they delayed calling a state for Gore, the ultimate margin of victory being similar. There was only one state which was a clear exception to that general trend.

In the aftermath of that fiasco I started the following thread, which I have used since then as my repository of research on the media and the First Amendment:

Why Broadcast Journalism is
Unnecessary and Illegitimate

89 posted on 11/01/2004 4:16:17 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Now I'm going to see if they try a play from the same old playbook.


90 posted on 11/01/2004 9:32:18 PM PST by Publius (Digital Minuteman)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

BTTT!!!!!!!!


91 posted on 11/02/2004 3:07:48 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Hadean; MediaMole; Howlin; ICE-FLYER; ErnBatavia; Political Junkie Too; Gordongekko909; ...

Ping.


92 posted on 09/28/2006 6:34:51 PM PDT by Publius ("Death to traitors." -- Lafayette Baker)
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To: Publius
I referenced Why Broadcast Journalism is Unnecessary and Illegitimate in that thread. That was the best I could then do - but I think that this thread is beginning to approach the definitive answer to the characteristics of journalism and why not only broadcasting but all of journalism is vulnerable to a lawsuit. It turns out that the Associated Press was found to be in violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act back in 1945 . . . and that an amazing amount of the objectionable qualities we observe in journalism can be laid at the door of the AP.

93 posted on 05/28/2008 4:33:29 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: laurenmarlowe

Ping.


94 posted on 09/30/2019 12:21:15 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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