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Kitna fined by NFL for wearing cross on baseball cap
The Clarion Ledger ^ | December 19, 2003

Posted on 12/19/2003 7:15:10 AM PST by leadpencil1

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:28:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: antichristianbias; nfl
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1 posted on 12/19/2003 7:15:11 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: leadpencil1
Bummer. But the rule is a good one.
2 posted on 12/19/2003 7:20:24 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: leadpencil1; All
Whoa, Nellie! What's going on with all these fines?
 

By Scott M. Johnson
Pro Football Report

Seeing as how the National Football League has felt compelled to send bills out to every player whose name does not start with an X, I thought it appropriate to ask why there has been a sudden surge in fines this week.

That will be $5,000, please.

What was that? Who said that?

Anyway, back to my point. Joe Horn might have pushed the envelope - or the send button, for that matter - a bit too far on Sunday when he reached out to touch someone. But $30,000? Isn't that a bit excessive?

We're talking a brand new car here.

That'll be another $2,500.

What? What's going on here?

You heard me: $2,500 for using the word "excessive."

Yeah, whatever. Anyway, the league went so far as to fine Jon Kitna this week for - get this - wearing a baseball cap with a cross on it. Even Jesus can't get a break from Paul Tagliabue.

Another $2,500, please.

For what?

For using the Lord's name in vain.

I didn't use anyone's name in vain. I was simply pointing out that Jon Kitna got fined for loving Jesus too publicly.

I didn't mean Jesus' name. I meant Paul Tagliabue's.

My bad. The point is, things are getting out of hand. I mean, I can understand why Joe Horn's celebration might have been a bit out of line. But this is entertainment, is it not?

I asked an old Seahawks veteran how he felt about it, and the reaction was predictable.

Cornerback Willie Williams, still a week shy his 33rd birthday, sometimes gives off the impression that he's been playing football since the days of leather helmets. That's especially true when he talks about the younger generation of athletes.

I'm going to have to ask you to pay another $5,000.

For what now?

You contacted Mr. Williams during non-designated hours.

Won't happen again.

So back to the Williams story. This guy's such a throwback that not even Michael Vick's arm could reach him.

Back in his day, Williams contends that end-zone celebrations were tame.

"Spiking the ball, dancing, that was it," he said. "That was the only thing. Now you've got guys with Sharpies in their socks, hiding cell phones under the goal post, making signs. I'm like, man, this is crazy."

At that point, I made the mistake of chuckling, picturing the antics of some spotlight-hungry receivers.

"You might laugh at it," Williams said with piercing eyes, "but it's not funny."

Seriously. This is no laughing matter to these guys.

Neither are the fines. All the money handed out by players this week could approach the six-figure mark.

Not quite six figures.

I said, "approach."

That'll be $10,000 for correcting me. Now we're over $100,000. Carry on.

Unbelieveable. OK, so the money is piling up like nobody's business. But don't expect Tagliabue to buy a new home in Maui. All the cash from NFL fines goes to charitable causes.

You don't believe me? Call the NFL public relations people. They can give you the names of each charity that benefits from every fine. They're happy to do it.

That's another $5,000, son.

What did I say?

Happy? You try fielding phone calls from sportswriters all day. That doesn't make us happy. I've got a 5-year-old who puts more thought into his out questions. That'll be $2,500 more for ticking me off.

I'd better stop while I'm ahead. All I wanted to say was ...

See, now I've forgotten my point. I guess I wanted to bring up the fact that the NFL is fine-happy, but that it's OK because the money is all going to a good cause.

You call that a point?

You got me flustered.

The Chicago Bears' offense is better at putting up points.

My fault. How much?

Let's say $7,500.

That works. I'm going to quit while I'm ahead.

3 posted on 12/19/2003 7:22:55 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: leadpencil1
Brett Favre can't wear his ratty, faded Nike cap post-game either, although he'd dearly love to. They have to wear NFL-licensed caps, shirts, etc. That's the NFL rule.
4 posted on 12/19/2003 7:24:21 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Mr. Bird
Must be you can't have it on an article of clothing. I guess if it was on a neckless or earring it would be ok.
5 posted on 12/19/2003 7:24:56 AM PST by leadpencil1 (Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. M. Twain)
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To: Catspaw
The aNFL
6 posted on 12/19/2003 7:26:49 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: leadpencil1
The NO FUN LEAGUE strikes again!
7 posted on 12/19/2003 7:27:49 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (WHO DEY! WHO DEY! WHO DEY THINK GONNA BEAT DEM BENGALS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: leadpencil1
Yeah, it sucks but I understand the rule. Good thing the Ravens beat them and hopefully will go on to win the division...

And I HATE Paul Tagliabue....

8 posted on 12/19/2003 7:29:06 AM PST by conserv13
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To: new cruelty
brilliance !
9 posted on 12/19/2003 7:29:29 AM PST by cars for sale
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To: leadpencil1
So he agrees he was wrong but he's appealing the fine ? Sounds like me kids.
10 posted on 12/19/2003 7:30:54 AM PST by BSunday (I'm not the bad guy)
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To: leadpencil1
The Bible says submit to the authorities placed above you. The authorities say that's the rule."

Ignoring for the moment whether or not he should be wearing it, the above statement is misinterpreted by many, IMO.

11 posted on 12/19/2003 7:30:58 AM PST by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: leadpencil1
Interesting what one finds on the web. I wonder how many people will get the relevance.


12 posted on 12/19/2003 7:31:41 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: leadpencil1
"I won't wear it any more. The Bible says submit to the authorities placed above you. The authorities say that's the rule."

Kitna said he plans to appeal the fine.

Submitting but appealing?

Isn't that a contradiction?

13 posted on 12/19/2003 7:32:07 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: new cruelty
Heh. Clever. I'm surprised you haven't had more responses.
14 posted on 12/19/2003 7:32:21 AM PST by DeuceTraveler
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To: leadpencil1
wait til the news is that a player GETS PAID for tatoos
say like a Nike Swoosh. And oops there is a cross tatoo
on the other arm's ripping muscle. My bet is Geragos will
take the case.
15 posted on 12/19/2003 7:32:29 AM PST by cars for sale
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To: leadpencil1
"I won't wear it any more. The Bible says submit to the authorities placed above you."

Of course this refers to legitimate authority and not the rule of some anti-Christian bigot. If anybody knows how to reach Kitna please send him this Bible verse.

"We must obey God rather than men." (Acts 5:29)

16 posted on 12/19/2003 7:34:06 AM PST by TheCrusader
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To: leadpencil1
The NFL is actually a very "religion-friendly" league, for the most part (I guess if you can get past the Sunday kickoffs). The rules on clothing are there so that the league can maximize its merchandising revenues AND prevent PR disasters created by rogue players. For every Kitna, there's some idiot who would put a porn site address on a hat for the right dollar figure.
17 posted on 12/19/2003 7:35:02 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: TheCrusader
Of course this refers to legitimate authority

Oh, and where does it say legitimate in reference to this? You're Acts verse to a point does, but not entirely.

18 posted on 12/19/2003 7:37:47 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Everybody appeals their fine, it's a tradition.
19 posted on 12/19/2003 7:40:08 AM PST by discostu (that's a waste of a perfectly good white boy)
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To: TheCrusader
There's no anti-Christian bigotry here. The rule is clear No Logos Other Than NFL Logos. No negotiation, no wiggle room. He'd have gotten just as fined for wearing a Nike cap or a Dale Earnhardt cap, or a Cleveland Indians cap. What it happens to be is immaterial the fine is baded on what it isn't and it isn't approved NFL postgame gear.
20 posted on 12/19/2003 7:43:24 AM PST by discostu (that's a waste of a perfectly good white boy)
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