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US Republicans signal readiness to resume Iraq weapons probe
AFP/Yahoo ^ | 12/22/03 | Unknown

Posted on 12/23/2003 6:10:07 AM PST by JohnGalt

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To: jwalsh07
What are you talking about?

The UN, Bill Clinton, the CIA...all known liars, said he had WMDs.

Therefore, logic dictates we should expect the opposite.

Most likely, Saddam destroyed his stockpiles between 1993-95 just as Kamal said.

Up is certainly down if you are asking conservatives to trust Bill Clinton. A billion dollars later, Kay has found nothing.

41 posted on 12/23/2003 7:54:08 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: jwalsh07
We know he had WMDS, we just don't know what he did with them. My guess is the Bekaa but it could just as well be a rathole somewhere.

Please take notice that I said that the question was did he have WMDs in recent years. We all know that he had them in the 80's and early 90's. The US supplied them. Continuing to fudge the question by saying he had them without regard to when is disengenious, at best.

After many months of looking we see no evidence that he had any, at least since 1998. He certainly did not use any to defend himself during our invasion-Blair's 45 minute claim notwithstanding.

It is now pretty obvious that there were no WMDs to endanger us when we attacked. Any assertion otherwise bears the burden of proof-you are the one claiming the inprobable. We do need to know if the president lied or was fooled and we have to stop the silly defense of Bush in the face of the facts.

It behooves the Republican Party to determine the truth honestly and openly to protect the party's reputation and to get us a 4 year gridlock rather than a 4 year socialist hell.

42 posted on 12/23/2003 7:54:33 AM PST by Mike4Freedom (Freedom is the one thing that you cannot have unless you grant it to everyone else.)
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To: Mike4Freedom
"Save the Party," "GO down with Bush?" What are you talking about? This has no legs, The party that is "going down" is the Democrat Party. No one else cares about this.
43 posted on 12/23/2003 8:06:20 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: Mike4Freedom
Be sure that we will find Iraq WMD or what happened to it.
44 posted on 12/23/2003 8:23:44 AM PST by jveritas
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To: JohnGalt
Who's side are you on?

I am on the President's side, you seem intent on defending Saddam from charges he had WMD. You also can't seem to read between the lines...from the story:

Kuwaiti authorities have seized archaeological artefacts and "other items" smuggled from Iraq into Kuwait, Deputy Prime Minister Sheikh Nawaf al-Ahmad al-Sabah said in remarks published on Thursday.

Asked about the report of seized biological warheads, al-Sabah also told al-Qabas newspaper: "Up to now we have not verified this...

Other items have also been seized which we will examine and announce (the findings) soon," added al-Sabah.

Source

He danced a waltz around the question. This story was hushed up the same way the Bekaa Valley explosion was.

45 posted on 12/23/2003 8:28:48 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter
If you are on the President's side you will support exposing the incompetents who passed him on bad info, rather than continue to spread the bad info.

That "Kuwaiit story" was pulled within days because it was untrue and unattributed to anybody but you are still spreading it?

Do you work for the Ds?
46 posted on 12/23/2003 8:31:30 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: Mike4Freedom
It is now pretty obvious that there were no WMDs to endanger us when we attacked.

Obvious only to the willfully blind and assorted ideologues.

Any assertion otherwise bears the burden of proof-you are the one claiming the inprobable.

Not really, you see I have seen all the proof I need to see that Hussein had the capability, the motive and the will to put WMD into the hands of those with suicidal tendencies. The burden of proof in my eyes has been met and exceeded.

We do need to know if the president lied or was fooled and we have to stop the silly defense of Bush in the face of the facts.

Lets put it this way, if you are calling the President a liar, then I think you're a liar. If you are calling him a dupe then I think you are the one being duped.

There is ample evidence of WMD programs, thus far no stockpiles. No biggie except that the inventory may have transferred ownership and now resides with jihadists of the first order.

47 posted on 12/23/2003 8:34:15 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Mike4Freedom
The WMDeadenders are far more concerned about their 'agenda' than they are about any re-election for Bush, the success of conservatism at home, and the moral legitimacy of American conservatism in the world.
48 posted on 12/23/2003 8:42:37 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: Mike4Freedom
I think that we can eliminate choice 3 right now.

And herein lies the problem... working without tools...

49 posted on 12/23/2003 8:49:21 AM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there is the face of Islam!)
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To: JohnGalt
Most likely, Saddam destroyed his stockpiles between 1993-95 just as Kamal said.

Oh yeah, now I'm convinced. :-}

Doesn't matter whether he destroyed the stockpiles or didn't destroy the stockpiles, he maintained the programs and it doesn't take much program to whip up VX.

The world and America is a safer place since President Bush moved on the jihadists and nuts. You can a rgue that if you'd like but I won't take you're argument any more seriously than I do Howard Deans.

50 posted on 12/23/2003 9:10:53 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: JohnGalt
Senate Republicans make me sick.

BTW, I'm really going to relish your whining when Bush is reelected in a landslide.

51 posted on 12/23/2003 9:27:21 AM PST by edsheppa
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To: JohnGalt
If the Republican Senators dig deep enough, they can aid Jim Baker and the Bush-Rove efforts to get the neocons out of this administration.

Serious? humor? wishful thinking? I give up.!!!

52 posted on 12/23/2003 9:35:42 AM PST by woodyinscc
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To: jwalsh07
What does that have to do with anything?

This was a discussion about bad intelligence in regards to WMD stockpiles.

53 posted on 12/23/2003 9:39:24 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: edsheppa
I am a Bush supporter which is why I am concerned about the bad intelligence that was funnelled to him; aren't you?

54 posted on 12/23/2003 9:40:08 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: woodyinscc
Serious but perhaps just wishful thinking.
55 posted on 12/23/2003 9:40:30 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: JohnGalt
Do you work for the Ds?

Are you f-ing insane? I commonly get called a "Bushbot" because I defend the President so vehemently. You and I have already had the conversation about the FBI/CIA incompetence...I suppose you still believe Joseph Wilson as well in spite of the fact that the FBI/CIA stated that the only reason they doubted the uranium-seeking story was because Saddam already had enough uranium. You have knocked Debka sources in the past, even though the story about the WMD going to the Bekaa Valley was later backed up by U.S. intelligence who said the shipments "failed to register" with them at the time. As far as the Kuwait story...

Shawkat al-Hakem, Al-Siyassah managing editor, told the AP on Saturday that the minister's comments did not negate his paper's report. He said the paper stood by its story.

Source

al-Sabah literally danced around the question in his denial (Asked about the report of seized biological warheads, al-Sabah also told al-Qabas newspaper: "Up to now we have not verified this...") and the "other items" that were confiscated were never defined...the story was literally swept under the rug after al-Sabah's denial, a little too quickly for my taste.

Your insistence to defend Saddam against the WMD charges makes me wonder who YOU are working for.

56 posted on 12/23/2003 10:00:44 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: putupon
Elizabeth Taylor once called Senator Warner, her ex-hubby, the dumbest sonofabug she ever met. 'Nuf said.
57 posted on 12/23/2003 10:00:51 AM PST by gaspar
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To: ravingnutter
If you were any friend to George W. you would use your passion to put distance between him and the Iraqiots, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Libby, Feith et al.

No, you are not even a Bushbot.
58 posted on 12/23/2003 10:04:30 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: JohnGalt
If you were any friend to George W. you would use your passion to put distance between him and the Iraqiots, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Libby, Feith et al.

Expound, please, what are they doing to undermine GWB? And since you continuously knock GWB on the WMD with personal attacks rather than cited facts, please explain why I should listen to you?

59 posted on 12/23/2003 10:25:58 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter
If you have really not been paying attention this past month, can I logically consider you a friend of Bush? I posted a couple of links in #9 to a few stories of the past month.

There were no WMDs and your continue passing of lies and tin foil conspiracy theory is just as likely the actions of a disrupter as it of a partisan.
60 posted on 12/23/2003 10:30:10 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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