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When Will Jesus Return?
WND.com ^ | 12-23-03 | Farah, Joseph

Posted on 12/23/2003 7:44:58 AM PST by Theodore R.

When will Jesus return?

Posted: December 23, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

"For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, On the throne of David and over his kingdom, To establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness. From then on and forevermore. ..."

Isaiah 9:6-7 (NASB)

As we celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ this week and prepare for 2004 next week, I can't help but think about how close we must be to the Second Coming – when the Lord will return for His church and personally rule over the Earth for 1,000 years.

Oh, I know, some of you don't believe in such things. You think it's just a bunch of silly superstition. Even some Christians don't believe in the Second Coming. Many prefer I stick to writing about news events of the physical world rather than arcane spiritual matters.

But, as a journalist, I can't ignore hard evidence – no matter where it may lead me. And the more I study the prophetic scriptures of the Holy Bible and look at the condition of our world today, the more convinced I become that we are nearing that time. In fact, I think we are very close.

For just as Jesus' virgin birth in Bethlehem was foretold by the Hebrew prophets hundreds of years earlier, so, too, was His return to Earth predicted. The only question is when.

The most dramatic evidence for His imminent return our generation has witnessed was the rebirth of the nation of Israel more than 50 years ago. The Jews, God's chosen people, were, as prophesied, scattered over the whole earth for nearly two millennia beginning shortly after Jesus' death on the cross. Yet, in my opinion, the scriptures leave no doubt that the Jewish state would exist once again before He returned.

Interestingly, Orthodox Jews have long taught that the world would last for 6,000 years before the Messiah would come and usher in a 1,000-year period of restful human history. Since God created the world in six days, according to Genesis 1:31, and rested on the seventh day, according to Genesis 2:1, they reasoned the world's history would climax the same way. They cite Psalms 90:4, which says: "For a thousand years in Thy sight are like yesterday when it passes by."

Likewise, Christians have looked to II Peter 3:8: "But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

The early church understood this "six-day theory" of world history. It was widely accepted teaching for the first three centuries of the church. From the time of Adam, we've got genealogical records to show that 4,000 years passed until the time of Christ. From Jesus' time until the present age represents another 2,000 years for a total of 6,000 years or six days.

There's also a three-day theory: Jesus rose on the third day. Would the beginning of the third millennium – or thousand-year period – not be the likely time for His return to earth? There is even strong scriptural evidence for such a theory provided in Hosea 6:2: "After two days will he revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight." Note that this prophecy is not about the Resurrection of Jesus, it's either about the resurrection of Israel after 2,000 years of dispersal or the physical return of the Lord.

In 1772, Edward Gibbon published "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire," in which he cites early documents suggesting the Christian disciples of the first century were taught that Jesus would return after 2,000 years. We'll soon find out if they were right.

For many reasons, I believe Jesus is returning soon. But I'm especially drawn to II Timothy 3:1-5, which describes the state of the world in the "last days." Tell me if this doesn't sound like our world:

But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. To me, that sounds like our world today.

Christmas represents a time of great hope for Christians. Of course, we're grateful that Jesus came about 2,000 years ago and died for our sins. Now we should be hopeful and expectant of His imminent return.

Merry Christmas. And happy birthday, Jesus.


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KEYWORDS: 6daytheory; bible; christmas; edwardgibbon; farah; hatersofgood; israel; jesus; loversofmoney; millennis; orthodoxjews; princeofpeace; recklesspeople; resurrection; secondcoming; virginbirth
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1 posted on 12/23/2003 7:44:59 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Merry Christmas and Happy New! :o)



2 posted on 12/23/2003 7:47:30 AM PST by ezoeni
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To: Theodore R.
Bump
3 posted on 12/23/2003 7:51:32 AM PST by Aeronaut (In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
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To: Theodore R.
July 18, 2006, 8:26:07 am CST
4 posted on 12/23/2003 7:51:53 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Theodore R.
I can't help but think about how close we must be to the Second Coming

36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man." -- Matthew 24:36-37

5 posted on 12/23/2003 7:52:33 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Waging war against the American "worker".)
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To: Theodore R.





Whenever He chooses, when no one thinks He will.


6 posted on 12/23/2003 7:54:17 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Theodore R.
We are "that" generation. Maranatha
7 posted on 12/23/2003 7:58:41 AM PST by fish hawk (John 11:35 "Jesus Wept")
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To: Theodore R.
When will He come? According to Romans 11:15, He will come after the Jews accept Christ as their Messiah.
8 posted on 12/23/2003 7:58:42 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: Theodore R.
At the time most embarassing to prophecy-salesmen who think they know more than the LORD. Every single one of them has been totally dead wrong, from St. Paul's day until ... yesterday. Isn't one definition of insanity "to keep on doing the same thing, expecting a different result"?
9 posted on 12/23/2003 7:59:55 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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To: Theodore R.
When will Jesus return

When these stupid articles stop popping up.

10 posted on 12/23/2003 8:01:36 AM PST by smith288 (Secret member of the VRWC elite forces)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
July 18, 2006, 8:26:07 am CST

Care to elaborate?

11 posted on 12/23/2003 8:02:45 AM PST by j_tull
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To: Tax-chick
At the time most embarassing to prophecy-salesmen who think they know more than the LORD. Every single one of them has been totally dead wrong, from St. Paul's day until ... yesterday. Isn't one definition of insanity "to keep on doing the same thing, expecting a different result"?

It is Joseph Farah and WorldNetDaily.com after all.

Insanity doesn't even begin to explain that crew.


12 posted on 12/23/2003 8:03:13 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Waging war against the American "worker".)
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To: Theodore R.
IThessalonians 5:1 But of the times and the season, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the LORD so cometh as a thief in the night.

3. For when they shall say, "PEACE and safety;" then sudden destruction cometh upon them as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4. But ye, brethern, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5. YE are all the children of LIGHT, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
13 posted on 12/23/2003 8:03:29 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Texas_Dawg
WorldNetDaily is certainly ... um ... of variable quality. Sometimes I like articles they put out, but this one has certainly made me a little more dubious about all of it ...
14 posted on 12/23/2003 8:05:19 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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To: Theodore R.
Or another way to ask the question:

How many times has Jesus returned and we failed to recognize it?

15 posted on 12/23/2003 8:06:32 AM PST by Hunble
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To: Theodore R.
For many reasons, I believe Jesus is returning soon. But I'm especially drawn to II Timothy 3:1-5, which describes the state of the world in the "last days." Tell me if this doesn't sound like our world:

But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. To me, that sounds like our world today.

Yes, because before the 1960s men never exhibited any of these traits. We were all saints up until recently.

16 posted on 12/23/2003 8:06:42 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Waging war against the American "worker".)
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To: Theodore R.
I'm sure He will come " Like a thief in the night" and you won't know He's been here till it's too late. He will remove His people and leave this place to those who worship the physical life.

May God bless all of you, Jesus is the reason for the season.
17 posted on 12/23/2003 8:08:08 AM PST by blastdad51 (Proud father of an Enduring Freedom vet, and friend of a soldier lost in Afghanistan)
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To: Tax-chick
WorldNetDaily is certainly ... um ... of variable quality. Sometimes I like articles they put out, but this one has certainly made me a little more dubious about all of it ...

They have a 12-year-old columnist who gives us his insightful analysis of the Democratic Presidential candidates this week.

Embarrassing.

18 posted on 12/23/2003 8:10:08 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Waging war against the American "worker".)
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To: Theodore R.
I wish He would return right now, walk through the streets in the Holy Land; and say, "please stop killing each other".
19 posted on 12/23/2003 8:10:32 AM PST by TiaS
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To: Hunble
How many times has Jesus returned and we failed to recognize it?

Once - three days after being pulled off the cross, and yes, the greater part of humanity fais to recognize it.

20 posted on 12/23/2003 8:10:49 AM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Theodore R.
We're closer today than yesterday!
21 posted on 12/23/2003 8:11:05 AM PST by goo goo g'joob
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To: Texas_Dawg
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father

I've often thought that this verse strongly implies that people looking in the Bible for dates and hours are looking for what isn't there. Since Christ the Son is the Word of God (John 1:1), if He doesn't know the date, how would the date be "secret coded" in Scripture?

I know I'm going to die in the next 60 years or so, and face the Lord's judgment. More detail than that wouldn't be beneficial for me.

22 posted on 12/23/2003 8:13:52 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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To: Jim Cane
Once - three days after being pulled off the cross, and yes, the greater part of humanity fais to recognize it.

Romans 9:18
"Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden."

23 posted on 12/23/2003 8:14:43 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Waging war against the American "worker".)
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To: Texas_Dawg
My 12-year-old has opinions, too ... but the Democratic candidates are so embarassing, simply by existing, that it could hardly be worse (for them.) I'm looking forward to Bush & Cheney vs. Dean & Deluca ... it will be a hoot!
24 posted on 12/23/2003 8:15:33 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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To: Theodore R.
Paul said he would return during his lifetime. Today the answer is, not yet. Keep the faith.
25 posted on 12/23/2003 8:16:04 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: Tax-chick
I know I'm going to die in the next 60 years or so, and face the Lord's judgment. More detail than that wouldn't be beneficial for me.

People want to feel like they are in control of everything. They aren't. God is. Many people can't handle this, sadly.

26 posted on 12/23/2003 8:16:51 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Waging war against the American "worker".)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
July 18, 2006, 8:26:07 am CST

Are you assuming that he will return in Indiana? The rest of the central time zone is on daylight savings time then.

27 posted on 12/23/2003 8:17:07 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: BJungNan
Paul said he would return during his lifetime.

So Paul is a liar?

28 posted on 12/23/2003 8:18:03 AM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Tax-chick
My 12-year-old has opinions, too

Of course. Most parents know that putting their kid's comments on a national website and advertising them as insightly, wise, analysis... is just dumb.

29 posted on 12/23/2003 8:18:29 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Waging war against the American "worker".)
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To: Theodore R.
What an exciting column!

Thank God for Jesus!!!!

Thank God for Joseph Farah too.

30 posted on 12/23/2003 8:18:47 AM PST by Taiwan Bocks
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To: Texas_Dawg
People want to feel like they are in control of everything.

They must not have 2-year-olds! Mine just turned up with a message about his diaper ...

31 posted on 12/23/2003 8:19:03 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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To: Theodore R.
Most folks would be better off welcoming his message into their hearts rather than waiting for him to show up in their neighborhoods. IMHO
32 posted on 12/23/2003 8:19:15 AM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: Theodore R.
A lot of people thinks he will come depends on your interpretation of scripture and whether you are a pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib rapture apologist. I personally believe he's coming before the 7 years that will end Satan's rule on earth. But like someone here already mentioned "He'll come when He comes." No one knows exactly for sure when the day will be, we are just called to be diligent and be prepared for it.

I agree with the writer of this article though in saying that it will be soon, but I've been saying that for over 20 years now. Does that make the message any less vital for today's world? Not at all, people and prophets alike have warned people for almost 2000 years that the end will come.

We just have to be diligent. Don't let your lambs loose their oil.

33 posted on 12/23/2003 8:19:56 AM PST by pctech
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To: Fester Chugabrew
If it's July, it will be CDT.
34 posted on 12/23/2003 8:20:53 AM PST by rabidralph (Merry Christmas to all.)
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To: smith288
”When these stupid articles stop popping up.”

Amen!

35 posted on 12/23/2003 8:21:13 AM PST by wireman
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To: Theodore R.
I'm all packed!
36 posted on 12/23/2003 8:22:08 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: Hunble
How many times has Jesus returned and we failed to recognize it?

The Bible teaches that he will come only two more times. once to retrieve all believers then anti-christ will rise and rule for awhile. Then Christ returns with the saints, overthrows all governments of the world then estabilshes his kingdom for one thousand years. At the end of the thousand years the final resurection and final judgement, then eternity.

That's it in a nutshell.

37 posted on 12/23/2003 8:24:47 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: Theodore R.
When will Jesus come -- no one knows the time and place...and He will come after the Jews accept Him

In the meantime Christians must continue to struggle against evil IN THIS WORLD!

38 posted on 12/23/2003 8:27:36 AM PST by eleni121
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To: wireman; smith288
Why do you read them, or do you? Free speech means people can say what they want so why don't you let them? There is no reason for you to deride a person for his religous views, its anti-American in fact.
39 posted on 12/23/2003 8:28:49 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: ColdSteelTalon
The Bible teaches that he will come only two more times. once to retrieve all believers then anti-christ will rise and rule for awhile. Then Christ returns with the saints, overthrows all governments of the world then estabilshes his kingdom for one thousand years. At the end of the thousand years the final resurection and final judgement, then eternity.

Sweet. That would make for a cool series of best-selling novels, imho.

40 posted on 12/23/2003 8:28:51 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Waging war against the American "worker".)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Telling 12-year-olds that their opinions are dumb doesn't help, believe me ... it's like telling them to clean the bathroom :-).

But seriously, this whole topic suggests a disturbing premise: That if we knew the date of Jesus' ultimate return, we would do something different from what we do NOT knowing. It implies that we'd all be killing, stealing, coveting, and committing adultery - unless we know He's returning in this election cycle.

I think that's dangerous. We can assume none of us FReeping today will be around later than, say, 2100, even with the best medical care, so we'd better be prepared to face Him, even if the final end is thousands of years off.
41 posted on 12/23/2003 8:30:09 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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To: smith288
When these stupid articles stop popping up.

Or sometime after or before.

42 posted on 12/23/2003 8:32:39 AM PST by brewcrew
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To: Tax-chick
That if we knew the date of Jesus' ultimate return, we would do something different from what we do NOT knowing.

The faithful in Christ have already cast their lot. It is the unbelievers that need to waken. I think that is why prophesy is used as a tool of the church. If people don't believe that the world will end, they need to be cautioned.

43 posted on 12/23/2003 8:34:03 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Submitting approval for the CAIR COROLLARY to GODWIN'S LAW.)
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To: Tax-chick
I don't have a problem with people hypothesizing about what Biblical prophecy is saying, as long as they are not doing what you outline in your last post.
44 posted on 12/23/2003 8:35:15 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Waging war against the American "worker".)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Sorry if I offended you...it was meant as humor when people continually asking "when when when?" when its clear in the Bible... When nobody expects it.

45 posted on 12/23/2003 8:35:50 AM PST by smith288 (Secret member of the VRWC elite forces)
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To: rabidralph
If it's July, it will be CDT.

The elimination of Daylight Saving Time is one of the signs of the end times.

46 posted on 12/23/2003 8:36:39 AM PST by KarlInOhio (A little bloodletting and some boar's vomit, and he'll be fine!)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
It is the unbelievers that need to waken. I think that is why prophesy is used as a tool of the church. If people don't believe that the world will end, they need to be cautioned.

That sounds kind of like scaring them into "belief".

How about Jesus Christ just saving them by his own sovereign grace?

47 posted on 12/23/2003 8:36:45 AM PST by Texas_Dawg (Waging war against the American "worker".)
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To: Theodore R.; 4ConservativeJustices
There's also a three-day theory: Jesus rose on the third day. Would the beginning of the third millennium – or thousand-year period – not be the likely time for His return to earth? There is even strong scriptural evidence for such a theory provided in Hosea 6:2: "After two days will he revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight." Note that this prophecy is not about the Resurrection of Jesus, it's either about the resurrection of Israel after 2,000 years of dispersal or the physical return of the Lord.

My goodness, 4CJ, I did not read this before Freepmailing you. It's a blessing for you because I'm about to become speechless LOL!

48 posted on 12/23/2003 8:37:49 AM PST by Ff--150 (What is, Is)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Free speech means people can say what they want; why don't you let them?

Nobody's suggesting stopping them.

to deride a person for his religous views, its anti-American in fact.

No, anti-American would be preventing him, legally or physically, from holding and expressing his religious views. Making fun of a person's opinions, if you consider them ludicrous, is FREE SPEECH.

Nothing in the Constitution or the traditions of America says, "Americans will never be rude or derogatory to one another." Liberals made that up. (You can tell you've unconsciously absorbed a liberal position when you make consecutive statements that contradict one another, as illustrated above.)

49 posted on 12/23/2003 8:38:06 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
But the humanistic approach rules out any sovereign grace.

I think prophesy can be added to the other tools that Christians can use. I also think it can be a powerful message that can catch people's attention. But the love and grace of the Lord should be stressed above any wrath of God. I think many people fear God, and never learn of His love.
50 posted on 12/23/2003 8:39:16 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Submitting approval for the CAIR COROLLARY to GODWIN'S LAW.)
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