posted on 12/23/2003 8:28:13 AM PST
Mean, mean, Howard Dean.
"As Dean has described it in recent months, the dispute over the bike path caused him to break with the Episcopal Church and become a Congregationalist."
I almost left the Catholic church because the holy water was the wrong temperature.
posted on 12/23/2003 8:31:26 AM PST
by Az Joe
Dean does believe...in bike trails
posted on 12/23/2003 8:35:07 AM PST
"I have never heard that before," says his brother James Dean.
posted on 12/23/2003 8:38:04 AM PST
(freepo ergo sum)
Can someone confirm - I read that Dean did his residency at Planned Parenthood - so this makes him the first Abortionaist Candidate - Please confirm - thanks!
What a bizarre article.
"But, by keeping the culture war from flaring up, he has created an environment in which religious-right voting drives could have a hard time gaining traction. "Evangelicals are populists," says University of Virginia sociologist James Davison Hunter. "They participate in politics when they feel embattled, when they feel like the culture is out to destroy the way of life they cherish. Right now, they don't feel that."
At which point the author goes on to completely disprove his own point. Maybe he realized that we would all read the part he just quoted and wonder if he was smoking crack? Just weird.
posted on 12/23/2003 8:47:04 AM PST
Talk to sensible Howard Dean supporters these days, and they'll tell you that the former governor's campaign to date has been a grand sleight of hand.
IOW, according to the first sentence of this New Republic article, being a liar, is "sensible".
posted on 12/23/2003 9:00:25 AM PST
So, Dean would go to war over a bike path, but not to protect America's interests and national security? *giggle*
posted on 12/23/2003 9:01:03 AM PST
(Merry Christmas to all.)
Bush might be able to pound Dean like a drum. But it will still be a tragedy to have 6 months of hard core liberalisim promoted by the Democratic media and swallowed whole by the 30-40% hard core Democratic voters.
This campaign, even if Dean looses, could set the stage for a hard left turn in general public.
That is unless Bush beats them so bad, and gets a 60 seat majority in the Senate, that the Dems completly implode and go the way of the Whigs.
What will they call their new party?
posted on 12/23/2003 9:21:51 AM PST
(McGovern lost in 72 - and launched the left's takover of the Dem party)
That sound you hear is Karl Rove cackling.
An unbelievably important article. I am printing and saving it.
posted on 12/23/2003 9:22:46 AM PST
(Except for the one who married me!!!)
"One thing I feel about religion, you have to be very careful not to be a hypocrite if you're a religious person.
Of course being a hypocrite is perfectly acceptable if one is a marxist or stalinist.
posted on 12/23/2003 9:27:01 AM PST
by Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
Centuries from now, Dean's conversion to Congregationalism will be remembered as one of the classic conversion stories, up there with St Paul's and Augustine of Hippo's.
I don't like the way the author sneaks in the insinuation that George W. Bush was an alcoholic...it's true that he used to party too hearty, but I haven't seen any evidence that he was an alcoholic.
Dean hasn't committed himself to many policy positions that can be portrayed as far left-
Wanting to reverse the tax cuts is far enough to the left for me...
posted on 12/23/2003 9:29:41 AM PST
he will reveal his true self, elegantly pivoting to the middle
Yea, right, hahahhahahahhaha.... Nice try.
posted on 12/23/2003 9:35:48 AM PST
(Peer into the depths of hell and there is the face of Islam!)
To: deport; Explorer89
This article's description of Dean made me think of Jodie Foster's character in the movie _Contact_. Remember when her buddy blindsides her in the congressional hearing with the question about if she believes in God. The look on her face was priceless.
Fortunately for the Democrats, there's a counterpoint to the Dukakis story. Four years after that disastrous campaign, Bill Clinton, also running against the elder Bush, made his faith a central part of his political persona.
I predict Bill Clinton will be the first president to be canonized.
posted on 12/23/2003 9:44:54 AM PST
(Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison?)
The most accurate vote predictor for the last election was whether the voter frequently attends religious services. Those who do are overwhelmingly Republcan. Those who rarely do are even more strongly Democrat.
posted on 12/23/2003 10:09:39 AM PST
by colorado tanker
("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
Journalistic rehabilitation at its worst. If this article is a portent of things to come, Dean might get the nomination after all. I'm on record predicting that he won't.
"My religion doesn't inform my public policy."
Oh, I think his religion has everything to do with his public policy, even though he doesn't realize it. A TRUE believer will want to obey a Holy God, and this will be reflected in ALL of his actions in life (all of life is spiritual). However, a person who has no understanding that Jesus Christ is Lord over ALL OF LIFE, will do whatever he wants with no regard to what pleases and doesn't please God.
It's quite evident that his public policy is not consistent with biblical Christianity as evidenced by his signing the Civil Unions bill in Vermont. Evidently, Mr. Dean doesn't much care that a Holy God condemns homosexuality. But this action is consistent with a man whose religion is secular and liberal. Worldview is everything, and it is evident from his actions that Mr. Dean's worldview is not orthodox Christian no matter what church he belongs to. Jesus Christ said we would know his followers by their fruit, and Dean's fruit is not the fruit of a man who truly loves Jesus Christ.
posted on 12/23/2003 10:36:24 AM PST
( sic semper tyrannis)
Just when I thought this guy couldn't get anymore revolting.
posted on 12/23/2003 2:56:50 PM PST
(If all the world's a stage, I want to operate the trap door!)
Okay, lets be honest here. Raise your hand if you read the whole article above........Oh, you in the back, you're the only one.
posted on 12/23/2003 3:01:20 PM PST
by fish hawk
(John 11:35 "Jesus Wept")
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