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| 12/23/2003
| Arnold Kling
Posted on 12/23/2003 3:59:28 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: CyberCowboy777
To: Federalist 78
I will post his response if it happens.
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posted on
12/24/2003 1:14:28 PM PST
by
CyberCowboy777
(We are Storming the Battlements, Razing the Arguments, Writing the Installments.)
To: Federalist 78
Interesting post. Thanks.
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posted on
12/24/2003 1:39:03 PM PST
by
PGalt
To: Federalist 78
Toward the end of the Weimar era, the German center collapsed, and politics degenerated into a battle between Communists and Nazis. It was literally a street fight, with beatings overtaking ballot boxes.Exceedingly oversimplified, as well as a woefully inadequate analogy. If he is saying that after the political center collapsed, 2 socialist groups fought for political control, what is the point?
A more accurate analogy would be to forecast the collapse of the American middle (unlikely), with MoveOn and DU fighting for control. Reductio ad absurdum.
That won't happen because of sites like FR. The Internet is dominated by livertarians and conservatives, pro-American and anti-government types. Leftist sites are a pitiable sub=segment of the on-line world.
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posted on
12/24/2003 2:16:29 PM PST
by
fnord
(Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence)
To: vladog
Kling's more of a 'compassionate libertarian'.
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posted on
12/24/2003 6:38:53 PM PST
by
StriperSniper
(Sending the Ba'thist to the showers! ;-)
To: CyberCowboy777
I was wondering where that quote came from myself. I figured if it was accurate, it was probably a tongue in cheek comment. Let's hope it gets cleared up.
Hey, maybe your inquiry will warrant an item in The Corner.
;-)
Merry Christmas!
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posted on
12/24/2003 6:56:51 PM PST
by
StriperSniper
(Sending the Ba'thist to the showers! ;-)
To: StriperSniper
Merry Christmas to you!
I'll let you know when I hear back.
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posted on
12/24/2003 10:51:43 PM PST
by
CyberCowboy777
(This Quiet Diplomacy was brought to you by BIG STICK foreign policy.)
To: StriperSniper; Federalist 78
Here is the response from Mr. Goldberg:
Yeah, i'm not sure about that reference either. It's certainly pretty old if it's real and probably excludes the qualifiers, i.e. someething like "some of the knucklescrapers at..." or some such. Also, there was a time a while ago when the Freepers turned viciously against my mom and therefor me. It was a sad period, but much of the stuff written about me back then at FR was really, really nasty so I may have said it in a fit of pique. Though, again, I don't remember writing it. Anyway, i like many freepers, even if i don't feel to close to Free Republic itself anymore.
My apologies if you took offense.
Jonah
I was not aware of any attacks on his mother, though I am sure that some simply dislike and/or disagree with Jonah - as is the case when thousands discuss anything. It can become visceral for certain.
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posted on
12/29/2003 9:19:55 AM PST
by
CyberCowboy777
(This Quiet Diplomacy was brought to you by BIG STICK foreign policy.)
To: CyberCowboy777
Also, there was a time a while ago when the Freepers turned viciously against my mom and therefor me.
Arnold Kling may have been correct; but his quote is inadequately cited.
I'll not be posting anymore articles from Kling.
To: Federalist 78
Agreed.
For certain some nipping has gone on between Goldberg and some on FR - Kling should have cited that directly though.
Instead he makes it out to be a all or nothing comment about the "extreme" nature of online partisans.
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posted on
12/29/2003 9:46:53 AM PST
by
CyberCowboy777
(This Quiet Diplomacy was brought to you by BIG STICK foreign policy.)
To: Federalist 78
On the Internet, too, the center is relatively weak. Political moderates could have an internet forum, but don't. That is because the muddled middle is politically apathetic. Where exactly outside the internet is the fount of centrist energy and strength? Aside from non-ideologic economic special interests, I can't think of any.
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12/29/2003 9:53:01 AM PST
by
Plutarch
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