Poll: Do you trust your elected leaders to make the right decision on immigration issues?

PHXnews ^ | 12/24/03 | PHXnews

[MickeysHangover]

Here's a poll I saw that I know most of you would be interested in.

"Do you trust your elected leaders to make the right decision on immigration issues?"

YES

NO

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When it comes to immigration, it seems that our leaders are always trying to cater to the hispanic vote.

Now, we discover that Bush and McCain are working on a master immigration plan just in time for the next election.

I'm curious to see where you stand on this issue of trust.

Thx and Merry Christmas.

Can I still say that on this web site? :)

[MickeysHangover]

Do you support the President on this issue?

Is he still our "guy" when he legalizes millions of illegals?

Peace out!

Mickey

[vladog]

I don't trust our elected leaders to know daylight from dark.

Neither major party 'wants' to stop the illegals. In this as so many other things the Dem's & Repub's are in bed with each other.

[Sunshine Sister]

The yeses are winning 92% to 8% no.

[Reagan is King]

I'll bet the guy that put that poll up was laughing as he posted it. I see that 11% of the people voting were illegal immigrants since they voted "yes".

[Zipporah]

When it comes to immigration, it seems that our leaders are always trying to cater to the hispanic vote.

I think it is a much deeper issue than votes.. The elitists are running this country.. not the people..they have managed to take over the leadership in both parties.. If you read the article in the Washington Post you will see, we cannot win.. mirror images nacilbupeR/Democrat..

My opinion .. NO one can be trusted.. why do you think this story ran today? Christmas Eve..

[txdoda]

I don't trust our elected leaders to know daylight from dark.

Neither major party 'wants' to stop the illegals. In this as so many other things the Dem's & Repub's are in bed with each other.>>>>>>>>>


I'll cast another vote..........I agree with you !!

[DumpsterDiver]

The yeses are winning 92% to 8% no.

I think you were looking at the results incorrectly.

Do you trust your elected leaders to make the right decision on immigration issues?

No (96%)

Yes (4%)

[VU4G10]

Do I dare to say "No"?

[John Beresford Tipton]

Q. "Do you trust your elected leaders to make the right decision on immigration issues?"

A. I would not trust my elected leaders with a hot stove.

[45Auto]

The whole thing is about money - and both major parties are up to their eyeballs in it. The politicians take money from interests who stand to benefit enormously from the employment of undocumented workers. Its as simple as that. I doubt that the morons in Congress will pass another total amnesty bill; they don't want to spoil the party. Once these people get any little bit of legality, then they can bitch and moan about not getting benefits enjoyed by other workers. And they can sue. And they can put a lot of pressure on Congress. And employers don't want to see that since under the current "system" they don't have to keep any financial records - no social security, mo Medicare. no income tax withholding, no medical plan, no vacation pay, no nothing. Do I want to see the country overrun with illegals? Hell, no! But short of rounding up every last one of them, and absolutely sealing the border, I would like to see those who hire these people penalized in some way. It is they who exacerbate the problem.

[meenie]

In the United Socialist States of America it is becoming more risky all the time. You may have to attend one of the re-education camps to get your attitude adjusted to the approved criteria.

[PRND21]

You may have to attend one of the re-education camps to get your attitude adjusted to the approved criteria.

Psssttt...You'e in a re-education camp.

[SBell]

Let me ask you this...

Would you support a harsh crack-down on illegal immigration and illegal immigrants if you KNEW the Hispanic backlash would hand the House, the Senate, the Presidency, and, consequently, the Supreme Court over to the liberals?

Consider that the liberals would then roll out the red carpet for the Mexicans, so you've not only failed to stem the tide of immigration, but you've successfully maneuvered yourself out of political power.

This immigration situation is a no-win scenario. I personally know small business owners who have gotten filthy rich employing Mexicans and I know manual laborers who have lost work due to teams of illegal aliens that are willing to work for "three hots and a cot". It's nauseating and there's no easy solution.

Until the threat of liberal rule is eradicated, Bush must tread a precarious line between doing what's right for America and satisfying Hispanic activists. Anyone who thinks that this situation is a reason to vote against Bush is simply throwing in the towel, and giving in to the greater evil.

[Sunshine Sister]

Cool! I have been known to be backwards at times!

[FITZ]

I live near the border ---- the immigrants coming in from Mexico are not Conservatives, they are not Republicans. They're poor, uneducated, unskilled and will vote for safety net programs ---- ie welfare programs or whoever will promise them those. The immigrant from Mexico isn't voting for Republicans ---- the entire border area is going more and more to the democrats.

[FITZ]

I think it is a much deeper issue than votes..

It's not votes. The hispanic vote in the USA used to be Republican when it was composed mostly of ex-Cubans and some people who'd been living in the SW USA for many generations ---- many who never were immigrants, descended from Spaniards and native Americans, or who left Mexico at the time of the Revolution. The hispanic vote is quickly becoming more and more democrat as indigent people move into the USA who are totally or mostly reliant on welfare programs and government handouts.

[inquest]

Would you support a harsh crack-down on illegal immigration and illegal immigrants if you KNEW the Hispanic backlash would hand the House, the Senate, the Presidency, and, consequently, the Supreme Court over to the liberals?

There doesn't have to be a "harsh" crackdown. The border patrol is pathetically understaffed right now. Simply increasing the number of patrollers to the equivalent number of American soldiers currently patrolling Bosnia's borders would sharply reduce the number of illegals who cross over - and probably catch a number of terrorists as well - without having to be harsh about it at all.

In fact, the present understaffed situation increases the risk of violent incidents which would give fodder for the liberals against the administration.

[Who dat?]

I would like to see those who hire these people penalized in some way. It is they who exacerbate the problem.

It’s interesting you should raise the Employer Issue. [From today’s freebie-issue of the San Leandro Times, typing errors would be mine.]

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SLHS Staff, Students Rally Around Aide

INS orders teacher and her family back to Mexico

Supporters for a San Leandro High School teacher’s aide got their wish during a rally on her behalf last Wednesday. The event was held to spur local officials into requesting a 30-day extension for Blanca Segura, who received notice on Dec. 2 that she, her husband and son had one month to voluntarily return to their native Mexico.

About halfway through the rally, English Language Development (ELD) coordinator Dan Martin announced that a 30-day extension had in fact been granted earlier in the day by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

“Today we found out Blanca was given 30 days,” said Martin. “We’re going to work very hard to make sure she has 30 years more.”

News people from channels 2, 4, 14 (Spanish language) and other local media surrounded Segura as she made her entrance to the cafeteria. Some 250 people gathered inside, including dozens of students holding large signs.

Associate principal Amy Furtado welcomed the students, parents, faculty and staff to the after-school rally.

“We are gathered here to show support for one of our family members, Blanca Segura. We’re showing the media how much she is loved by this staff and the school,” said Furtado. “She is the model citizen.”

The rally became an impromptu civics lesson when Herb Castillo from the International Institute of the East Bay took the microphone.

“I know many Blanca Seguras,” said Castillo. “There are eight million of them who were drawn to this country to work. This country wants our labor, it needs our labor, yet it continues to arrest our people who are being given 30 days at best to leave. These eight million who are here illegally have very few options available to them.”

Castillo told the students that California sent a message to Congress when it passed Proposition 187, which limited immigrant access to government services. He said that since Sept. 11, 2001, concerns for security have put immigrant rights on hold.

“All of you have to learn about immigration laws,” he advised. “Vote, and ask your parents to vote. You have to fight for Blanca and for the immigrant community.”

Segura, wearing sunglasses, waved to the crowd. Martin presented her with a check for over $800 to help with legal costs. The money had been raised through contributions by students, staff, and faculty at the school.

“She’s an amazing woman and an amazing co-worker. I don’t think a lot of these ELD kids can survive without her. She puts her heart into her job,” says fellow teacher’s aide Maria Carvalho.

Senior Juana Juarez, a female wrestler who was at the rally with her team members, said Segura had helped her with college admissions paperwork and obtaining financial aid.

“She’s been there for a lot of Latinos who want to go to college. She also helps with English translation in the office or in class,” said Juarez.

Segura and her family have been in the U.S. for 14 years. She and her husband Roberto have a son, Jonathan, who is a straight-A student at San Leandro High. Jonathan was born in Mexico and is also scheduled for deportation. The Seguras also have two daughters who are students at John Muir Middle School. Jessica and Elizabeth were both born here and are therefore U.S. citizens.

The family has been trying unsuccessfully since 1996 to become legal residents. They applied for political asylum that year but were denied because they had arrived illegally. Since then they have been through a series of appeals and denials culminating in the Dec. 2 notice – and Dec. 18 reprieve.

Martin urged the crowd to continue educating themselves about immigration issues, and to not let the momentum of support drop off during the upcoming winter break. He asked students to write their elected officials requesting legislation to grant the Seguras permanent residency. He also requested donations to help defray the family’s inevitable legal expenses.

“Take time out of your life to help other people,” said Martin. “We are going to make a difference. You already have made a difference. That’s why Blanca got the 30 days. Don’t let this drop because we’re all going to be off for two weeks.”

Community donations to the Segura’s legal defense fund are also welcome. Contributions may be sent to the Blanca Segura Family, c/o the School Bank, San Leandro High School, 2200 Bancroft Ave., CA 94577

“Checks should be made out to SLHS, and the school bank will then pass the money on to Blanca Segura,” says Martin.

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I hate to spam up a perfectly good thread, but I thought this article was interesting from several angles. First, we’ve got a school district that’s hiring illegals to work (and this isn’t cash-only, under-the-table stuff either). Second, we have teachers at that school raising a fuss to protect that illegal. Third, they’re soliciting contributions for that person (and it isn’t mentioned in the article, but this is the same HS that has had quite a few problems related to accounting for money).

Oh well, I’m tired.

[45Auto]

The real problem is money; and another angle that might partially explain the open flouting of the law by these morons, is that the employers can find a way to stick it to the taxpayers to support a lot of benefits for those who might be "pardoned" under any blanket amnesty bill. In the end, its the already overburdened taxpayer who will once again, "take it in the neck."