LIBEL by New York Times (only "Bigots" oppose gay marriage, says judge)

Massachusetts News ^ | 12/03 | Pawlick

[pabianice]

Margaret Marshall

Chief Justice

Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court

[longtermmemmory]

Law schools are accepting many more of these women. The pool of potential judges will inevitably include her intelectual zombies.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Gillman

Prejudiced Bigot who disagrees with Judge Marshall.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

"Constitution? WE don't need no stinking Constitution!"

[woodyinscc]

Shumer would call her "mainstream", of course if a conservative Judge would have said something this outrageous, he would be calling for impeachment.

[MoralSense]

Marshall is married to now-retired NYT columnist Anthony Lewis, a raving leftist.

[longtermmemmory]

Married to a raving leftist? Perhaps we should have stricter standards over who is allowed to be a Chief judge. A president must be a native born US citizen why not judge.

Being married to a "raving leftist" seems like a subject for mandatory disclosure when she is ruling of dismataling a milenium old institution. Do the voters of Mass have a recall or retention mechanism for this useful idiot?

[international american]

"Marshall is married to now-retired NYT columnist Anthony Lewis, a raving leftist."

You just explained it ALL....Good Lord!!!!

[nightdriver]

Time - no - far past time top arrest some judges.

[woodyinscc]

We had a raving lunatic leftist Chief Justice Rose Bird, out here in Calif. Every LEO organization ran ads constantly against her decisions. Heck when the ACLU sued against Prop. 13 she was the only dissenter. Californians, finally voted her out of Office.

[dwd1]

Who is that said, "There are no absolutes!" A point of view does not mean the same thing for every one... It is one piece of their personality... And people can have the same point of view for completely different reasons... Some based on sexual insecurity, others on religious grounds, others on health grounds, others because of a personal experience that colors their judgement... IMHO...

[patj]

No different than Chris Wallace on FNS. Only I think his was a slip of the biased tongue. When interviewing Gephardt he asked about his change of stance on abortions and asked if it was the same bigots.

[King Prout]

"Taking all of this available information into account, the Legislature could rationally conclude that a family environment with married opposite-sex parents remains the optimal social structure in which to bear children, and that the raising of children by same-sex couples, who by definition cannot be the two sole biological parents of a child and cannot provide children with a parental authority figure of each gender, presents an alternative structure for child rearing that has not yet proved itself beyond reasonable scientific dispute to be as optimal as the biologically based marriage norm. ... Working from the assumption that a recognition of same-sex marriages will increase the number of children experiencing this alternative, the Legislature could conceivably conclude that declining to recognize same-sex marriages remains prudent until empirical questions about its impact on the upbringing of children are resolved. ...

That's the most crucial paragraph in the excerpts.
I have taken, whenever I am challenged on my opposition to equating homosexual liaisons with marriage, to stating rather forcefully: "Marriage is for the children, stupid!"
For some reason, this tends to shut dims/leftists up, at least temporarily. I guess all those long years of Clintonian iterations of the root mantras from which I derived my rebuttal has intilled in them an insuperable Pavlovian reflex of submission.

[NativeNewYorker]

...yes...a fact totally unreported until he retired.

[King Prout]

?
I did not understand what you were driving at.

[longtermmemmory]

Mass Constitution" Article XXIX. It is essential to the preservation of the rights of every individual, his life, liberty, property, and character, that there be an impartial interpretation of the laws, and administration of justice. It is the right of every citizen to be tried by judges as free, impartial and independent as the lot of humanity will admit. It is, therefore, not only the best policy, but for the security of the rights of the people, and of every citizen, that the judges of the supreme judicial court should hold their offices as long as they behave themselves well; and that they should have honorable salaries ascertained and established by standing laws. [See Amendments, Arts. XLVIII, The Initiative, II, sec. 2, and The Referendum, III, sec. 2, LXVIII and XCVIII.]

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Chapter III.

JUDICIARY POWER.

Article I. The tenure, that all commission officers shall by law have in their offices, shall be expressed in their respective commissions. All judicial officers, duly appointed, commissioned and sworn, shall hold their offices during good behavior, excepting such concerning whom there is different provision made in this constitution: provided nevertheless, the governor, with consent of the council, may remove them upon the address of both houses of the legislature. [For tenure, etc., of judges, see Amendments, Art. XLVIII, The Initiative, II, sec. 2 and The Referendum, III, sec. 2.] [For retirement of judicial officers, see Amendments, Art. LVIII.] [For removal of justices of the peace and notaries public, see Amendments, Art. XXXVII.] [Annulled by Amendments, Art. XCVIII.]

Article II. [Each branch of the legislature, as well as the governor and council, shall have authority to require the opinions of the justices of the supreme judicial court, upon important questions of law, and upon solemn occasions.] [Amended and superseded by Amendments, Art. LXXXV.]

Article III. In order that the people may not suffer from the long continuance in place of any justice of the peace, who shall fail of discharging the important duties of his office with ability or fidelity, all commissions of justices of the peace shall expire and become void, in the term of seven years from their respective dates; and upon the expiration of any commission, the same may, if necessary, be renewed, or another person appointed, as shall most conduce to the well-being of the commonwealth. [See Amendments, Art. XXXVII.]

Article IV. The judges of probate of wills, and for granting letters of administration, shall hold their courts at such place or places, on fixed days, as the convenience of the people shall require; and the legislature shall, from time to time, hereafter appoint such times and places; until which appointments, the said courts shall be holden at the times and places which the respective judges shall direct.

Article V. All causes of marriage, divorce, and alimony, and all appeals from the judges of probate shall be heard and determined by the governor and council, until the legislature shall, by law, make other provision.

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on the subject of referendum:

Section 2. Excluded Matters. - No law that relates to religion, religious practices or religious institutions; or to the appointment, qualification, tenure, removal or compensation of judges; or to the powers, creation or abolition of courts; or the operation of which is restricted to a particular town, city or other political division or to particular districts or localities of the commonwealth; or that appropriates money for the current or ordinary expenses of the commonwealth or for any of its departments, boards, commissions or institutions shall be the subject of a referendum petition.

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Article XCVIII. Article I of Chapter III of Part the Second of the Constitution, as amended by Article LVIII of the Amendments to the Constitution, is hereby annulled and the following Article is adopted in place thereof:-

Article I. The tenure, that all commissioned officers shall by law have in their offices, shall be expressed in their respective commissions. All judicial officers, duly appointed, commissioned and sworn, shall hold their offices during good behavior, excepting such concerning whom there is different provision made in this Constitution; provided, nevertheless, the governor, with the consent of the council, may remove them upon the address of both houses of the legislature; and provided, also, that the governor, with the consent of the council, may after due notice and hearing retire them because of advanced age or mental or physical disability; and provided further, that upon attaining seventy years of age said judges shall be retired. Such retirement shall be subject to any provisions made by law as to pensions or allowances payable to such officers upon their voluntary retirement.

It seems mass has specifically excluded recalls from judges. I did not see anything about merit retention but it seems not to be there. The only removal can been done by legislature and both houses. My question is how did Mass get a South African judge?

[longtermmemmory]

Which is why the media is pushing the generic "parent" in lieu of Mother and Father. A child has two (or more) parents of any of the GLBerT class not just one male father and one female mother.

DOMA should include that as a matter of law a child has ONE mother and ONE father. A step father can't adopt a step child if the natural father refuses or does not have his parental rights terminated in a court of law. Same applies for step mothers. We need to educate again that men are fathers and women are mothers AND that each is a different and the differences are needed for a child.

[King Prout]

agreed.
or, rather, the government and media must be stopped from interfering with the natural transfer of those data from mothers and fathers to their children.

[King Prout]

geesh... how do I change my tagline?
oh.
(duh)

[dwd1]

I think the judge is out of line for making blanket assumptions about the reasons someone may oppose gay marriage and what it means they are... Opposition or support for gay marriage does not define a person... It would be the to me as when conscientious objectors are branded as cowards....