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Kendall Coffey Comments on the Rush Limbaugh Case
Fox News Channel-The Factor ^ | 12-23-03 | Kendall Coffey and John Kasich

Posted on 12/26/2003 12:53:07 PM PST by Matchett-PI

This was transcribed by me from my own personal video and audio tapes of this interview.

One segment of "The Factor" on The Bill O'Reilly Show - Fox News Channel - Tuesday evening - 12-23-03 - Aproximately halfway between 8 and 9 PM EDT

Host: Former Ohio Congressman, John Kasich - sitting in for O'Reilly

Guest: Former US Attorney, Kendall Coffey, Miami, Florida

John Kasich (doing the introduction to the topic - I missed the first couple of words): "...to look at his medical records to decide if he should be charged with 'doctor shopping' for prescription pain killers.

Limbaugh's lawyer has already appealed, and yesterday he said Rush was blackmailed by his former housekeeper. Limbaugh, himself, said the Democrats are behind his legal troubles.

So could there really be a political agenda here? Joining us from Miami is former U.S. Attorney, Kendall Coffey.

Mr Coffey, why do they need to look at these very private medical records, you know, the relations between a patient and his doctor?"

Coffey: "Very sensitive, very confidential, and certainly protected by the law. But what the judge found, is that the prosecutor has a legitimate interest in them because of the theory of the prosecution, which is 'doctor shopping'. That is to say, according to the prosecution, 2000 pills purchased within a six month period from four different doctors, under Florida law, it's a class three felony to be going to different doctors within a 30-day period, without disclosing to one doctor that you're getting essentially the same prescription drug.

That's the theory of the prosecution - too early to tell whether it's going anywhere, but understandable that a judge would not want to shut down the prosecution this early in the process."

John: "Mr. Coffey, you've had a lot of experience in these sorts of things, ahhh, a prosecutor going after a guy who's got cronic pain, in and out of facilities, uhm, what's the typical way in which they would treat somebody who is a user of prescription drugs? Or an abuser of prescription drugs?"

Coffey: "Well, John that's the big question here, because there is a huge divide between users and traffickers. And we're not hearing any allegation that Rush Limbaugh is a trafficker.

So it's a fair question to see why is this degree of intense effort being dedicated to somebody who, at worst, is apparently an addict who developed an addiction as a result of severe back pain.

That's really the profile of a person that you don't try to put into jail, but you write that kind of prescription for that kind of person for community service, treatment, and that would seem to be the logical outcome here for Rush Limbaugh. I'm not clear why the prosecution is going more aggressively in this direction."

John: "You know, Mr. Coffey, I've never met you before, I know you have had a history of supportiing some Democrats, but that doesn't matter to me, you seem like a fair guy. When I look at this case, and I see this prosecutor doing this, I think this stinks. I think this is, ah, this is political. Your take on it."

Coffey: "Well, the judge found that it's good faith. And I would be surprised, John, if this were some conspiracy theory involving national Democrats. But let's look at some of the other things..."

John (interrupting): "I'm not saying that, but what about a prosecutor can make a name for himself in Palm Beach County, a Democrat taking down the big dog, Rush Limbaugh?"

Coffey: "Well, that's a concern in every case involving a major celebrity. Rush Limbaugh, seems like, if he were just another guy who had an addiction problem, this would have been wrapped up weeks ago along the lines of what I described; lots of community service, treatment, then at some point the charges are dropped -- no conviction, end of the matter.

What happens sometimes is these kind of high-profile cases take on a life of their own.

The police that are involved, want to push, push, push and develop the case fully. The local newspaper has editorialized basically in favor of pursuing the case further.

So, while, whatever may be the landscape in this case, it is pushing the prosecution further from a point where, early in October, John, they had sent clear signals, from my reading the situation, that they were not going to pursue Rush Limbaugh, because their targets are pill peddlers, not pill-poppers. Something's changed, here."

John: "Is it possible, Mr. Coffey, that he will not be charged? 'Cause, you know, we gotta make it clear, Rush has NOT been charged yet for anything. Is it possible that the prosecutor could walk away from this?"

Coffey: "Well, I think that it's entirely possible.

What I expect, after the back and forth - it's clearly gotten more adversarial in recent days - that at some point, when the press heat is off, and the public pressure is off, they're gonna sit down, and they're gonna work out a deal that, at the end of the day, despite extensive efforts, is gonna be the same treatment that anyone else would have gotten - rich man or poor man - what amounts to pre-trial intervention, and as we just talked about, community service, treatment, and the book is closed and the chapter is over."

John: "Well, I hope. And I hope that - you know, I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, rip the prosecutor -- I don't know enough about him -- but I hope that at the end of the day we get some justice and they got some fair treatment. Thanks for being with us." [End of interview.]

End of transcript.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: billoreilly; democratwitchhunt; eib; fishingexpedition; johnkasich; kendallcoffey; limbaugh; lovablefuzzball; palmbeachcounty; royblack; rush; rushlimbaugh; thefactor
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"So it's a fair question to see why is this degree of intense effort being dedicated to somebody who, at worst, is apparently an addict who developed an addiction as a result of severe back pain."

"That's really the profile of a person that you don't try to put into jail, but you write that kind of prescription for that kind of person for community service, treatment, and that would seem to be the logical outcome here for Rush Limbaugh. I'm not clear why the prosecution is going more aggressively in this direction."

"Rush Limbaugh, seems like, if he were just another guy who had an addiction problem, this would have been wrapped up weeks ago along the lines of what I described; lots of community service, treatment, then at some point the charges are dropped -- no conviction, end of the matter."

"... that, at the end of the day, despite extensive efforts, [Rush] is gonna be [given] the same treatment that anyone else would have gotten - rich man or poor man ..."

1 posted on 12/26/2003 12:53:07 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: Matchett-PI
No, Rush is being subjected to harsher treatment cause he IS a celebrity. And with a being a role model more ought to be expected of you and when you fall short, its no surprise your punishment should be more severe than if you are an ordinary person cause in your deportment, you set an example for others to follow.
2 posted on 12/26/2003 12:56:20 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ConservativeMan55
ping
3 posted on 12/26/2003 12:59:17 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: goldstategop
Rush Limbaugh...Robert Downey, Jr....

Sure, it's not political.

\sarcasm.
4 posted on 12/26/2003 1:01:20 PM PST by Keith
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To: Matchett-PI
I've never heard of case in which the prosecutor immunized people regarding which they have abundant evidence for both drug trafficking and extortion - in order to go after an addicted presciption drug user. This stinks to high heaven, and the only reason it continues is because the prosecutor knows most of his Palm beach condominium constituants are so high on prescitption drugs they can't tell the difference.
5 posted on 12/26/2003 1:01:49 PM PST by BCrago66
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Tuesday, 12-23-03 Between 5-6:00 PM EDT Sean Hannity Radio Show

Transcribed by me from my own personal audio tape.

Host, Curtis Slewa {sp?), sitting in for Hannity.

Guest: Mark Levin of the Landmark Legal Foundation.

Curtis: "..Now, Mark, on the matter of Rush Limbaugh, we heard him on his nationally syndicated show respond to what his attorney Roy Black had said about the Palm Beach District Attorney's office and their on-going investigation. It's very confusing to me, and I think most folks listening from afar, because of the nature of us not really knowing what's going on. Can you try to bisect it and dissect it for us?"

Mark: "OK. This hasn't been discussed in any detail by all these meatheads on TV, and it's very upsetting to me. I secured a copy of the transcript of the hearing and I want to walk you through this briefly. But there are very, very important points that haven't been made public, that are in the public record! OK?

Number one: The Florida Constitution creates a fundamental right to privacy, in article one, section three.

Unlike the US Constitution, in which every Liberal tries to find a right to privacy, Florida actually creates one in black and white, OK? It has a statute that creates a doctor-patient priviledge, OK? This becomes a fundamental right under article one, section three, twenty three of the Florida Constitution.

Number three: There's a three-part test that has to be met before you can get a search warrant. The test, in my opinion, was not met. The difference between a search warrant and a subpoena is this; a search warrrant, you're concerned -- prosecutors are, law enforcement is -- that the evidence might disappear, so you might want to get a breathalizer test right away. You might want to look for something right away. But doctor's records??

As opposed to a subpoena, where the party being subpoena'd, or the party being targeted has a right to intervene, seek court, ah, seek a hearing, before they can actually seize the documents. At no other time, in the history of Palm Beach County, has a search warrant been issued in this manner against somebody who was addicted to pain killers -- against somebody who went into rehab.

So, what is it that they're investigating? Let me put it to you this way, Curtis, first we read the leak about money laundering, right?"

Curtis: "Yes"

Mark: "Then they asked the New York authorities, 'Are you investigating money laundering?' 'No'.

Curtis, interrupting: "Right -- Attorney General, Elliot Spitzer, who's a pit bull on almost every issue, said, 'No, we're not looking into this at all'"

Mark: "And no fan of Rush Limbaugh's, I'm sure."

Curtis: "No, not at all. Nor of Sean Hannity, I might add."

Mark: "Then we heard about a drug ring. What happened to the drug ring this DA was investigating? Then we heard about this maid who was all over the National Enquirer. Does anyone know where this maid is? 'Cause I haven't read any reporter who's interviewed her., or her drug-pushing husband. Where is he?"

Cyrtis: "Alright now, on that matter -- ah, there were media reports today in which Roy Black was talking about the blackmail -- the actual blackmail. Ah, what penalties exist for that in the State of Florida, that the maid and her husband might be subject to?"

Mark: "There are extortion penalties in every State. Those are very, very serious crimes. I don't know why this DA is standing on its heels or sitting on its tukkas (sp?). Now, hold on, I just want to make a point."

Curtis: "Sure."

Mark: "Let's talk about these four doctors. This is critical. Roy Black layed this out the other day, and not a single media outlet picked it up, Curtis. They accused Rush of 'doctor shopping'. That's the big crime they're looking for, OK? Now listen to this. Two of the doctors are Dr. Drourr and Dr. Deziel. Alright?"

Curtis: "Yes."

Mark: "They say Rush would go to Dr. Drourr and then would go to Dr. Deziel, or Deziel, and then go to Drourr, and somehow shop doctors in order to get prescriptions, OK?

Curtis: "Ah huh."

Mark: "What their affidavit to their search warrant did not say, is that these doctors both worked at the same surgery center -- the Jupiter Outpatient Surgery Center -- and not only that, as Black pointed out, Drourr was only filling in for Deziel when he was available to issue the prescriptions to Rush. There is no doctor shopping between these two judges -- I mean doctors.

Want to hear the third doctor? He's Dr. De La Cruz, of Los Angeles. He works at the House Ear Clinic. Rush went there, because six months prior to losing his hearing, he sought treatment. And then he was treated by another physician, who was there for his hearing loss - ah - that's it! That's the doctor shopping they got!

Now, no judge hearing this before this search warrant went through, would have accepted the argument that there, on its face, that there was a potential violation of this so-called "doctor shopping" statute."

Curtis: "All right. Well you've answered most of the questions that I know I and others had as there continues to be comments from Black who is representing Rush Limbaugh. I appreciate your insights Mark Levin."

A Pharmacist named "Herb" then calls in, and Curtis questions him about what he is required to do (in the way of reporting it to the authorities) if he suspects someone may be "doctor shopping" in order to obtain more and more prescription drugs.

Mark Levin then called back in to the show.

Curtis: "Alright, well Herb, on the line, we actually have counsel. Ah, Mark Levin -- we had just heard from him -- wanted to just engage you on something you said. Are you there Mark?"

Mark: "Yes. Yeah, here's the problem, Herb."

Herb: "Ah huh."

Mark: "They're investigating 'doctor shopping', OK? You're saying, 'well the real legal problem is, they are investigating 'doctor shopping'. Now why do you think they're doing that?

Herb: "They are investigating it, or they aren't?"

Mark: "Yes. They ARE."

Herb: "Well, because basically, to me as a pharmacist, I would say this person who was doing the doctor shopping, has a big problem."

Mark: "No, no, that's not why. Because the entire other part of their so-called case, doesn't exist any more.

The maid sold her story. The maid was an alleged extortionist. The maid's husband was a convicted drug pusher. Where is this drug ring? Where is the money laundering? Those are all apparently, dead ends.

So now, they are doing what we call, 'paper shopping' by looking at these doctor's records. And if you heard what I said earlier on this program, you would have heard the backgrounds of these four doctors, and how on its face, it's absurd."

Herb: "Well, you know, anywhere in the United States, unfortunately, you can always find physicians -- there is always those few rotten apples in the barrel ..."

Mark (interrupting): "But Herb, you've switched positions. You called Curtis and you said, that's not the issue, who wrote prescriptions' - but where did he buy the drugs?"

Herb: "Right."

Mark: "I just explained to you why that door's locked. And now you're coming back around the corner and you're trying to argue, there's a few doctors out there who will always write prescriptions -- that's NOT "doctor shopping".

Herb: "Well, let me just say, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know all the intricacies of what you're saying as far as physcians, but my position is, that, and I listen to Rush quite often .."

Mark (interrupting): "I'll tell you what was said in court... I'll tell you what was said in court ...."

Herb (interrupting): "No, no, my position is, that it was very poor judgement on Rush's part to go ahead with this thing. I don't care if... "

Mark (interrupting): "I think everybody knows that. Rush got a addicted to pain killers. Now, we're beyond the lecturing. He went to rehab. This prosecutor apparently has never gone after a first-time addict after he's gone to rehab. You don't have to be a lawyer to figure this out. You don't have to be a pharmacist to figure this out."

Curtis: "All aright Mark, I'm going to have to let you and Herb go now .."

Mark: "Alright. My honor."

6 posted on 12/26/2003 1:02:32 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: goldstategop
Wrong, Rush has not courted celebrity status but has earned
a more powerful special status as a Majority Maker and the reason why liberal Democrats have targeted him.

His addiction oddly paralleled the ascendancy of the Republican party and when he in fact did his best work. I would even go so far as to say that his addiction and the opiates used enhanced and intensified his intellect.

7 posted on 12/26/2003 1:07:05 PM PST by Helms (Liberalism is a faux compassion that condescends at best and subjugates at worse)
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To: Helms
Funny you should say that... a friend of mine with bipolar disorder mentioned how taking drugs for her condition left her with lucid and clearer thoughts - being less excitable and all. Taking drugs doesn't always land you in Skid Row or in detox.
8 posted on 12/26/2003 1:10:14 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Matchett-PI
I just had a thought: considering Limbaugh's claim that the DA is fishing through his medical records for evidence instead of having other corroborating facts, why can't one make a fifth amendment claim against self-incrimination? After all, one cannot be compelled to testify against oneself, and there is nothing more personal than one's body. Can someone argue that the history of one's medical conditions is just an extension of one's testimony and therefore, the government does not have the right to use that testimony against oneself involuntarily?

-PJ

9 posted on 12/26/2003 1:13:44 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: BCrago66
"This stinks to high heaven, and the only reason it continues is because the prosecutor knows most of his Palm beach condominium constituants are so high on prescitption drugs they can't tell the difference."

I had to laugh one night in October when I heard (and video-taped) Geraldo Rivera's sneering comments (regarding, what has now morphed into a 'doctor-shopping' fishing expedition case), paraphrased: "Yeah ... it isn't as if most of the residents of South East Florida aren't addicted to prescription drugs..." Hahahaha

10 posted on 12/26/2003 1:16:39 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: Helms
except the premise is false; Limbaugh was a whole lot funnier and less pompous c. '93-'95, before the cigar afficianado days, etc. To me, the change from gadfly to celebrity began around the time of the Fort Collins bake sale and rendered him far less effective.
11 posted on 12/26/2003 1:30:09 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: goldstategop
Interesting as those I have known suffering from BPD thought that Lithium, Tegretol, etc. blunted their higher thinking.

Rush benefited by boosting his hormone-endorphin- dopamine levels. Dopamine is called the "master molecule" of addiction.

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FRIDAY, June 20 (HealthDayNews) -- A gene that causes bipolar disorder in some people has been identified by researchers at the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine

A report on their discovery appears in the June 16 issue of Molecular Psychiatry.

The study found a mutation in a gene that regulates sensitivity to brain neurotransmitters such as dopamine causes bipolar disorder in as many as 10 percent of the people with the psychiatric illness.

The mutation in the gene called G protein receptorkinase 3 occurs in a part of the gene called the promoter, which regulates when the gene is turned on.

The USCD researchers hypothesize that this mutation causes a person to become hypersensitive to dopamine.. That results in the mood extremes that alternate between euphoric peaks and serious depression seen in people with bipolar disorder

This is the first study to pinpoint a precise gene involved in the disease.

About a third to a half of the 1 million people worldwide with bipolar disorder get little benefit from existing treatments. One of the major limitations in bipolar treatment is a lack of new molecular targets for drugs.

The UCSD researchers say studies like theirs that pinpoint genetic defects that cause bipolar disorder can help lead to the development of new drugs directed at specific genes.

12 posted on 12/26/2003 1:45:30 PM PST by Helms
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To: Political Junkie Too
NIce thought, but your line of reasoning would make taped confessions inadmissable. You can't be compelled, but you can be tricked.
13 posted on 12/26/2003 1:48:50 PM PST by papertyger
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To: goldstategop; oldglory; Luke FReeman; sheikdetailfeather; ConservativeMan55; gonzo; MinuteGal; ...
"...[being a] celebrity...your punishment should be more severe than if you are an ordinary person .."

I'm glad you have outted yourself as an advocate of UNEQUAL treatment under the law.

Ahh the wisdom of having the impartial Rule of Law undergird our Constitution.

If followed, it GUARANTEES EQUAL TREATMENT under the law for ALL citizens.

The Framers separated the powers to even further protect our God-given (inalienable) rights because they knew that there would always be elitist, biased mentalities such as yourself, who would want to impose UNEQUAL treatment under the law on his fellow citizens if he was ever able to obtain the reins of absolute power.

14 posted on 12/26/2003 1:49:23 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: goldstategop
And with a being a role model more ought to be expected of you and when you fall short, its no surprise your punishment should be more severe than if you are an ordinary person cause in your deportment, you set an example for others to follow.

I take it that you don't have much use for that pesky "equal protection of the law" portion of the Constitution, do you?

15 posted on 12/26/2003 1:54:22 PM PST by The Electrician
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To: Matchett-PI
>>>John: "You know, Mr. Coffey, I've never met you before, I know you have had a history of supportiing some Democrats, but that doesn't matter to me, you seem like a fair guy. When I look at this case, and I see this prosecutor doing this, I think this stinks. I think this is, ah, this is political. Your take on it." <<<

I agree with Kasich about Coffey, Limbaugh, and the fact that it stinks.
16 posted on 12/26/2003 1:58:46 PM PST by Zechariah11 (so they weighed for my hire thirty pieces of silver Zech 11:12)
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To: The Electrician
Of course I do. But the reality is prominent people should be held to a higher standard. True, an exception was made for Clinton but I wouldn't want to see our standards kept lowered on account of him.
17 posted on 12/26/2003 1:59:13 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Then I don't understand what you are saying, because you are both supporting equal protection and against equal protection by suggesting that it ought to be denied to some people (based on some arbitrary distinction of whether or not a person is "prominent").
18 posted on 12/26/2003 2:01:42 PM PST by The Electrician
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To: goldstategop
what higher standard? All are EQUAL before the law. No seperate standards. If this was EQUAL the case would have been dropped entirely or place in the diversion program. Period.

You NEVER have this type of fishing expedition in user cases where the user was not caught red handed by the police. (altering perscriptions, buying in a sting operation, false phone in of perscriptions etc.)

The one thing that is missed is that the "good faith" was alledged to have been found but is this based on MERE SUSPICION or probable cause? If you get a speeding ticket does that justify the police taking your car apart to see if you altered any parts? It may be suspicious you were able to go 10 miles over the limit on a highway.
19 posted on 12/26/2003 2:05:14 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: The Electrician
Every one is equal in the eyes of the law. The reality is every one is treated differently on account of their circumstances. Theory and reality don't always mesh and as much as we'd like it to be different it wasn't, it isn't and it will never be.
20 posted on 12/26/2003 2:05:33 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Matchett-PI
I agree that Rush should be treated just like anyone else. And when we're sick of hearing about him getting raped daily in prison, maybe we will get rid of these evil laws.
21 posted on 12/26/2003 2:07:58 PM PST by thoughtomator ("I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid"-Qadafi)
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To: longtermmemmory
Try to imagine the authorities even taking up the case if he wasn't famous. That's what I've been getting at - the more conspicuous you are the more people expect from you. And if you fail to meet their expectations, no one wants to hear from you again. True, OJ was never convicted of murder but he's now the world's loneliest man which in a condign way is a fitting punishment for his crime. Every one may start out with a presumption of equal treatment under the law but their station in life and people's perception of it, does influence the kind of treatment they'll get in the event they're suspected of wrong-doing.
22 posted on 12/26/2003 2:09:53 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: thoughtomator
If he were like you and me, that'd be the case. Fame is no respecter of persons as some would like to imagine. Being famous doesn't necessarily make you more immune to being sanctioned by the law - even though there is a perception prominent people have an easier time of it in court than the rest of us do.
23 posted on 12/26/2003 2:13:53 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Matchett-PI
Good work. Bump
24 posted on 12/26/2003 2:17:49 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: goldstategop
That does not make it right. It is even worse in this situation because the procedures of the system are being excercised differently in this ONE case.

This is not a result of "station" in life. This is solely a result of being against the Democrat Party. This is no different than commuinsts in the USSR using all state tools to crush opposition.

In the end I hope this can be turned around to crush democrats.
25 posted on 12/26/2003 2:20:37 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
And if Rush were a liberal celebrity do you think he should get a pass? Assuming everything else you heard about the case where exactly the same.
26 posted on 12/26/2003 2:23:37 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Only what I have said from day one. The same. A liberal who is caught will get the diversion treatment program just as ANYONE else.

If it was a liberal and the facts were identical I would want done what I have seen done. nothing.
28 posted on 12/26/2003 2:26:27 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Tribune7
Thank you.
29 posted on 12/26/2003 2:26:49 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: Lando Lincoln; Ben Hecks; dix; tubebender; Don Carlos; oprahstheantichrist; nutmeg; cyborg; ...

30 posted on 12/26/2003 2:33:04 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You know how those liberals are. Two's Company but three is a fundraiser.)
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To: LindaSOG; oldglory; MinuteGal; gonzo; Mustang; Bob Ireland; Luke FReeman; sheikdetailfeather; ...
"Kendall Coffey - He was Gore's lawyer in the recount."

I know -- I was one of the Florida Freepers who went to Tallahassee during the re-count. Got the pictures and the videotape of C-Span's coverage of our FReep and the Miami Herald's article and Freeper interviews to prove it. LOL

31 posted on 12/26/2003 2:34:23 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: Matchett-PI
Ummmm... is this the same Kendall Coffey who purposely screwed up the Elian Gonzalez case so that Klintoon could deport the kid ???

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32 posted on 12/26/2003 2:36:12 PM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: GeekDejure
This is going to become like the OJ case.

Rush=Ratings

Rush has 20 million listeners who have gone out of their way to see his appearances on TV. Even his TV show was a hit despite being burried at 2 am.

It is only natural that many will make their opions on the case a tool for PR.

BTW, as a reporter where would you rather be in December and Janurary. NY or sunny Palm Beach FL. Pay attention where the tag line of the report is comming from. If it says Miami it may be reporters decided to have fun in southbeach and the grove.
33 posted on 12/26/2003 2:42:54 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: GeekDejure
See #27.
34 posted on 12/26/2003 2:43:09 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: Matchett-PI
I saw the interview. You have transcribed it accurately. Nice work.
35 posted on 12/26/2003 2:51:08 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Matchett-PI
To get 2,000 pills in 6 months how many pharmacies would he have had to use? He couldn't take the prescriptions to the same drug store or drug chain since their systems track what they sell by patient. They have to because of the problems of interactions as well as reporting issues with the controlled drugs. They advertise out here that they can get your prescription record at any of their stores. I'd really like to know more about the controls that pharmacies have on these kind of drugs.
A lot of wealthy people have lackeys to run tasks for them like picking up prescriptions for their employer and I suspect a lot of them take the prescription to the pharmacy and the wealthy person doesn’t even show up. I wonder if Rush was the one picking the meds up and ordering refills? Someone in household could have been authorized to do that for him.

How many of the type of pain killers a day could someone take and not die or be totally unable to perform their job at the level that Rush does?


36 posted on 12/26/2003 3:03:42 PM PST by airedale
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To: Matchett-PI
BUMP for GREAT freeping.
This is what good freeping is. Nice work on the transcript.

Rush was a pill addict, like Jerry Lewis (percodan for back pain) and Elvis Presley, and a whole lot of other people (celebrities included) who never saw it coming - - the addiction just crept up on them. Rush's case SHOULD be a slam-dunk "get-teatment-pay-fine-do-community-service-don't-do-it-again" case. Anything else is clearly a political witch-hunt / vendetta.
37 posted on 12/26/2003 3:07:08 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: goldstategop
Let's get this clearly and plainly .. Rush Limbaugh is being targeted by the Hillary goon squad. If people can't see that, they are either deaf, dumb, blind or just plain stooooopid.

Al Franken and Ed Asner have said so very plainly. To make the statement (while salivating) .. "now we've got him" .. tells me everything I need to know. This is a hit on Rush because of his politics .. not because he's a celebrity.

Hillary is probably planning on running in 2004 .. and she will not be able to pull her stealth stuff with Rush revealing everything over the airwaves. Hillary only believes in free speech when people say nice things about her.
38 posted on 12/26/2003 3:10:10 PM PST by The Final Harvest (America is the greatest force for good on the planet ..!!)
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To: goldstategop
OK, but I will note that you have changed your line of argument from "he should have been treated differently" to "in reality people are treated differently depending on their circumstances". The latter is just a description of reality, whereas the former is advocating disparate treatment. So, are you still, or are you no longer advocating disparate treatment for identical offenses?
39 posted on 12/26/2003 3:25:23 PM PST by The Electrician
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To: Matchett-PI
Does anyone have any information regrding the number of people in Florida who have actually been prosecuted for "Doctor Shopping" during the last 5 years or so? I'm willing to bet it's a very low number - perhaps as low as zero.
40 posted on 12/26/2003 3:30:37 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: gusopol3
except the premise is false; Limbaugh was a whole lot funnier and less pompous c. '93-'95, before the cigar afficianado days, etc. To me, the change from gadfly to celebrity began around the time of the Fort Collins bake sale and rendered him far less effective.

I agree with the general time frame but I believe the time frame he lost his edge as an entertainer was when he married Marta. Face it, you just can't be as rude and irreverent when there's a spouse scowling at you whenever you cross the line.

All of a sudden the old "what will the neighbors say?" and "i'm so embarrassed" comments start popping out and you learn to censor yourself.

41 posted on 12/26/2003 3:35:02 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Want to improve your memory? Loan someone your money.)
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To: goldstategop
No, Rush is being subjected to harsher treatment cause he IS a celebrity. And with a being a role model more ought to be expected of you and when you fall short, its no surprise your punishment should be more severe than if you are an ordinary person cause in your deportment, you set an example for others to follow.

You really think this?

42 posted on 12/26/2003 3:35:37 PM PST by ladyinred (ladyinred always wears pink!)
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To: Matchett-PI
Ask Elian Gonzalez what a competent attorney Kendall Coffey is. Oh, that's right, you can't ask him.
43 posted on 12/26/2003 3:35:50 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Want to improve your memory? Loan someone your money.)
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To: ladyinred
I think a role model should set an example yes since others look up to you and that's why your punishment should be more severe if you happen to fall short, since more is expected of you. Is there any reason it shouldn't be? I feel that with fame comes a certain sense of responsibility for all your good fortune.
44 posted on 12/26/2003 3:39:30 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tall_Texan
Sounds to me Rush should have hired Mark Levin!!!!!
45 posted on 12/26/2003 3:43:51 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: airedale
Eleven pills a day is not that excessive for someone with severe pain. It numbs your senses and what seems like six hours is only three or four hours...
46 posted on 12/26/2003 3:46:42 PM PST by tubebender (Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...)
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To: Brimack34
Levin is probably not licensed in Florida. Secondly, you want a guy with trial attorney experience.

Thankfully, Roy Black is Rush's attorney, not Kendall Coffey but I do wonder if Black will do for Limbaugh what Coffey did for Elian, IOW just hand him over to the Democrats to do their will with him.
47 posted on 12/26/2003 3:48:21 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Want to improve your memory? Loan someone your money.)
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To: holdonnow
Your input welcome here.
48 posted on 12/26/2003 3:49:35 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Want to improve your memory? Loan someone your money.)
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To: Helms
I would even go so far as to say that his addiction and the opiates used enhanced and intensified his intellect.

- you are right, but expect to get grilled by the same suspects.

49 posted on 12/26/2003 3:50:21 PM PST by thesummerwind (In the white room with black curtains near the station.)
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To: LindaSOG; Matchett-PI
Mr. Coffey doesn't go down well with me. Freeze dry him.
50 posted on 12/26/2003 3:55:00 PM PST by thesummerwind (In the white room with black curtains near the station.)
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