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DR. DEAN GETS RELIGION ON SOUTHERN TRAIL (devout liberal panders for Christian votes)
NY POST ^ | December 27, 2003 | LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

Posted on 12/27/2003 6:08:34 AM PST by Liz

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:18:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

THE ISSUE: Howard Dean's plan to invoke God in his upcoming campaign speeches.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; catholiclist; christianvote; dean; deanschristianity; howarddean; lte; southernstrategy
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How wily and manipulative these liberals are....and completely untrustworthy.

Dean learned all he knows about campaigning from those arch-politicans--the conniving Clintons. Dean has consistently stolen from the Clintons political game plan.

Dean saw that even the evil Clintons had to go to church on Sunday and carry Bibles in order to cement the Christian vote even while the Clintons were promoting the liberal agenda including p/b abortion (infanticide) as national policy.

This guy Dean knows that he needs conservative Christian votes. Christians need to be warned about politicians who say one thing and do another.

1 posted on 12/27/2003 6:08:35 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
he's translucent. in every way shape and form. mark my words this will backfire on him. and we'll have many more articles like this to enjoy! yay!
2 posted on 12/27/2003 6:13:32 AM PST by ecru
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To: Liz
Howard Dean doesn't have a leg to stand on.... because he has BOTH FEET in his MOUTH!

Just my humble opinion.....
3 posted on 12/27/2003 6:15:47 AM PST by buffyt (Howard Dean doesn't have a leg to stand on.... because he has BOTH FEET in his MOUTH!)
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To: Liz; Alas; logos; sauropod; Squantos
The frightening thing - people claiming to be Born Again Christians will vote for him. They will sacrifice their own moral and ethical standards to the prince of darkness.
4 posted on 12/27/2003 6:17:13 AM PST by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: Liz

The Conversion of St. Howard on the Bikepath to Burlington

5 posted on 12/27/2003 6:17:45 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Liz
How anyone could believe anything that comes out of that man's mouth is beyond me.

If he told me the sun rises in the east, I'd question it!

6 posted on 12/27/2003 6:17:51 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: Liz
...kinda reminds me of Clinton carrying his 5lb bible in and out of church....but, people bought it!
7 posted on 12/27/2003 6:22:14 AM PST by mystery-ak (Mike...Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas...)
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To: billorites
I thought Howard said he was tired of campaigns about God,guns and gays.

This is a new reaching out to white southern rednecks with a Confederate flag on the back of their pickup trucks?(GRIN)
8 posted on 12/27/2003 6:24:14 AM PST by MEG33 (Joy To The World)
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To: Liz
Dean's campaign motto should be, "Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die." This guy spent the entire year whipping up the loony left with rhetoric knowing the whole time that presidential elections can't be won by appealing to extremists. He knew he'd eventually have to join the real world if he wanted even a remote shot at the presidency. Well, that day has come. I'm sure it was fun preaching to the choir, getting an 'Amen!' to every utterance, but now's the time to preach to and win over the non-believers. Good luck, Howie--keep an eye out for stray lightning bolts.
9 posted on 12/27/2003 6:24:22 AM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: SLB
'nuff said.
10 posted on 12/27/2003 6:25:52 AM PST by mrtysmm
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To: MEG33
This is a new reaching out to white southern rednecks with a Confederate flag on the back of their pickup trucks?(GRIN)

And gunracks . . .don't forget the gunracks in their pickup trucks.

What I don't understand is why "separation of church and state" prohibits grade school children from saying "Christmas" in school, but allows Dean to invoke the name of "Jesus" in his political campaign to help him win.

11 posted on 12/27/2003 6:30:55 AM PST by Tired_of_the_Lies
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To: Liz
How wily and manipulative these liberals are....and completely untrustworthy.

Libs are hiting new lows. Everything and anything just to have power.
12 posted on 12/27/2003 6:32:43 AM PST by matrix2225
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To: billorites
The Conversion of St. Howard on the Bikepath to Burlington

Is Howard the horse's ass?

13 posted on 12/27/2003 6:40:16 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Liz
It just goes to show--the Democrats will do anything to get elected. They have nothing to offer but name calling, curses, criticism of anything and everything, and a ruthless grab for raw power.

Just when you think they could not possible sink any lower--they surprise you.

14 posted on 12/27/2003 6:40:25 AM PST by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and greatgrandparents were Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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To: Savage Beast
Can't you just 'see' how-odd? and his creatures sitting around planning how to win down South? "Hey, let's tell those dopes in South Carolina that how-odd? in a committed Christian!" " Yeah, they're all as dumb as a box of rocks, we'll have him say "Jesus" a few times and WHAM we win!"
These liberals are just like the old soviet communists. They think Christianity is a children's superstition that can be used to fool it's 'stupid' followers.
15 posted on 12/27/2003 6:47:46 AM PST by jmaroneps37 ( Support how-odd? in the primaries, get us 4 more senate seats! hilarity clinocchio will never run.)
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To: Liz
Dean must have some really stupid advisors. This is identical to 1980 when John Anderson ran his independent campaign for President. Instead of trying to reach the masses, he would show up at a pollution site and expect everyone to run to him. His campaign was a total disaster, just like Howard Dean's will be.
16 posted on 12/27/2003 6:52:05 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: All
Dean is the guy who has spent his whole political fortune on whipping hate into the Demorat Party, pulling any and all who would listen to the far left, then because the news is saying what religion is this guy, Dean invokes the name of Jesus and says he is a remarkable guy who would love the minimum wage today and really went for the guy on the fringe of the crowdcan.Can you believe this garbage and the total lack of repect for those of us who worship is the basis of what our lives are about. This man insults all who listen to him.
17 posted on 12/27/2003 6:56:11 AM PST by cousair
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To: billorites
And Howie said, " Man I see the light....the light from those polls that say I need Christian votes."
18 posted on 12/27/2003 7:09:27 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
The more I see of Howard Dean, The more I listen to him run his trap, The more I think he's Bill Clinton Redux.
19 posted on 12/27/2003 7:11:00 AM PST by BurtS188
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To: Liz
Maybe Dean will want to hold a prayer vigil for Osama Bin Laden and ask that Southerners not be eager to convict or kill him without hearing his side of the story.
21 posted on 12/27/2003 7:26:26 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Liz
While Dean may have been baptized, he did not often/ever go to religious services when he was at Yale. He was part of the group that ridiculed those of us who did. He seemed to be virulently anti-Catholic. (I am Catholic.)

Now, what sort of "Christian" allows his children to be raised as Jews? The answer is an fallen-away Christian whose Christian "faith" means nothing to him.

Hoser Dean is just pandering for enough Christian votes to win in the southern primaries. And it might work because almost all of the other Dim-o-crap candidates are Dean-type "Christians."
22 posted on 12/27/2003 7:29:47 AM PST by Thor_Hammar
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To: cousair; TommyDale; Savage Beast; matrix2225; randog; mystery-ak; Budge; SLB; buffyt; ecru; ...
Dean.......has spent his whole political fortune on whipping hate into the Demorat Party.....

The fundamental truth about religio-phobic Dims........They hate religion. They hate religious people.

The truth now emerges about the real source of our adversaries obsessions, a truth I've been preaching for ages. People like Dean and the liberal gangs, are motivated not by principle -- except that they worship abortion -- but a deep and abiding hatred for all things Christian and conservative.

We must begin to place Dean and his cohorts in their proper context: We need to wake up America to the hate crimes they are pepertrating on voters. Dean is part and parcel of the hate cabal that is rampaging America to remove religious symbols from public places.

Significantly, these depraved, deceptive individuals use high-faluting legal words to disguise their hatred. The hate-filled bigots loathe humanity. They hate religion. They hate religious people. They are law-breakers who are infringing on American citizens' constitutional rights.

The hidden agenda of the religio-phobic libs--despite their high-sounding legal arguments--is to decimate all references to morality, and subjugate people who espouse moral principles.

In their small, inferior, insular minds morality equates to dreaded sectarian religious beliefs.

How very successful they have been.

Everyday we see the haters' destructive results as we experience the unimaginable crimes, and the collapse of a once-thriving culture's moral underpinnings.

The haters are getting what they wanted: destruction of the moral bulwark of Western Civilization.

23 posted on 12/27/2003 7:36:25 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
I can't stand people -- especially politicians -- who either wear their religion on their sleeve or hide it like it is a guilty secret. Some politicians do both, depending on what audience they are playing to. "Talk self-righteously and carry a big Bible" seems to be their motto.

If a politician claiming to be a Christian is asked about Jesus and says something simply about "Lord" or "Savior," one might conclude one thing. One might reach a different conclusion on the other hand, if the politician says something like:
"I have always identified with Jesus. He was a good teacher. Just like Jesus, I am concerned with the poor and despised -- whether they be unemployed, high-school drop outs, in prison, or gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, transgendered or merely 'questioning.' Jesus never judged anyone except the rich, and he never demanded anything from his followers. I am in solidarity with Jesus, in all his humanity. If Jesus were alive today, I think he would be proud of the new social programs that I propose."

24 posted on 12/27/2003 7:37:11 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; Libloather; Mudboy Slim; GatorGirl; maryz; BurbankKarl; ...
To believe that Howard Dean, who signed one of the nation's first civil-unions bills, and is also a staunch defender of the euphemistically dubbed "women's reproductive health-care services" (i.e., unrestricted abortion), actually believes in anything the Gospels have to say would be like hearing the pope say that he's thinking about canceling his subscription to Playboy.
25 posted on 12/27/2003 7:39:45 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Well it's nice to know the Democrats are finally finding religion - or at least of a sort that thinks of "Jesus" as more than a cuss word.

Preacher Howie will be a welcome addition to the Reverand Al, Holy Joe and Hale-Bopp Kookinich!

Now, all we need to do is add John F'in' Kerry (is he "Jewish" or "Christian"?,... I forget), Geb Dickhardt (he's Baptist, but rarely carrys a Bible, instead he consults a union card), Carol Mostly-Fraud (between collecting welfare checks, she spent time in FrodoLand), John Edwards (as an ambulance-chaser, he probably prays daily for The Big Pile Up), and Weasley The Saint.

If we had these emminient worthys on a deck of cards, they would all be competing for the deuce of clubs.

Of course, no list would be complete without the real candidate out there: Hillary. She already has "religion". But, it's her "666" tattoo that worries me!

26 posted on 12/27/2003 7:40:29 AM PST by Gritty (These Democrats don't need votes, they need massive intervention therapy!)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
.....politicians.....either wear their religion on their sleeve or hide it like it is a guilty secret......depending on what audience they are playing to........ "Talk self-righteously and carry a big Bible" seems to be their motto.

Nice take.

27 posted on 12/27/2003 7:42:21 AM PST by Liz
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To: Gritty
Preacher Howie will be a welcome addition to the Reverand Al, Holy Joe and Hale-Bopp Kookinich! Now, all we need to do is add John F'in' Kerry (is he "Jewish" or "Christian"?,... I forget), Geb Dickhardt (he's Baptist, but rarely carrys a Bible, instead he consults a union card), Carol Mostly-Fraud (between collecting welfare checks, she spent time in FrodoLand), John Edwards (as an ambulance-chaser, he probably prays daily for The Big Pile Up), and Weasley The Saint. If we had these emminient worthys on a deck of cards, they would all be competing for the deuce of clubs.

Looks to me like they're all Jokers. LOL.

28 posted on 12/27/2003 7:45:02 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Looks to me like they're all Jokers

I think you've dealt them the right card!

29 posted on 12/27/2003 8:11:16 AM PST by Gritty (The first refuge of a scoundrel is in the Democrat Party!)
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To: Liz
"Everyday we see the haters' destructive results as we experience the unimaginable crimes, and the collapse of a once-thriving culture's moral underpinnings.

"The haters are getting what they wanted: destruction of the moral bulwark of Western Civilization."

Everything that you say (post #23) is true.

I for one am disgusted with the attacks by these decadents--everything from the Boy Scouts to Christianity.

The War on Terrorism seems to be having a catalytic effect on the West. I see slow and reluctant though definite signs of the repudiation of this decadence in the United States.

President Bush has been instrumental in this catalysis.

The begrudging praise of his recent triumphs by American and European political leaders and journalists is only one sign.

The Widespread American support of President Bush is another.

I think I also detect a strengthened commitment to Christianity among those whom I encounter.

The effects of this catalyst must be encouraged. In spite of themselves, the terrorists may be helping the people of the West to solve their most dangerous and destructive problem--decadence.

30 posted on 12/27/2003 8:50:16 AM PST by Savage Beast (September 11, 2002 was a wakeup call--and not just for Americans.)
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To: jmaroneps37
The idea that a klunk like Dean hopes to capture South Carolina is a knee-slapper!
31 posted on 12/27/2003 8:54:05 AM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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To: Liz
Dr Deanmental is a sick puppy. I kind of think his role model is Dr Mengele for some reason. Either way, Howie is scary and dangerous.
32 posted on 12/27/2003 10:40:58 AM PST by CARepubGal
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To: Liz
Gore Advisor Wants Democrats "To Take Back God"
Gore Follows Ashcroft in Backing "Faith Based" Programs for Public Good
Tuesday May 25, 1999

The Guardian - London - http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/

ATLANTA (AP) - As part of a "new partnership" between church and state, President Gore will "dare to embrace" faith-based programs with public funds and set policy with religious leaders at the table.

Such was the pledge Vice President Al Gore made Monday as he further fleshed out an agenda for Campaign 2000 that he hopes will both set him apart from President Clinton and bring him close enough to his opponents - chiefly Republican George W. Bush and Democrat Bill Bradley - to neutralize any "values" debate.

Today, he and Clinton appear together at an economic development conference in Texas before Gore resumes campaign fund raising. Three events Monday bagged him $600,000. "The moment has come for Washington to catch up to the rest of America," the congressman-turned-senator-turned-vice-president said in tones borrowed from a Washington outsider. "And Americans profoundly, rightly believe that politics and morality are deeply interrelated." Speaking at a Salvation Army drug rehabilitation center, Gore said places like that and Christ House and Christian Women's Job Corps have some of the most effective programs dealing with homelessness, addiction and mental illness precisely because of their religious bent.

"To the workers in these organizations, that client is not a number but a child of God," he said. "We should explore carefully tailored partnerships with our faith community, so we can use the approaches that are working best."

His plan essentially would expand conservative Republican Sen. John Ashcroft's "charitable choice" provision of the 1996 welfare overhaul that allowed government money to fund faith-based groups helping to move people from welfare to work.

Gore was short on specifics - communications director Laura Quinn called it a "broad idea" at this point - but he insisted no government-funded program would "promote a religious view or try to force anyone to receive religion" and that secular alternatives would be available.

Three times he said he believes in the separation of church and state.

But Terri Schroeder, a First Amendment legal analyst at The American Civil Liberties Union, said Gore's plan raises troubling questions.

"How can a religious institution counsel without proselytizing? How can you provide juvenile services without some level of coercion? How can we have any accountability for how our money is spent given the traditional separation of church and state?" Schroeder asked.

For Gore, the political benefit of religious talk is twofold: It sneaks some ground out from under Republicans who have long dominated the morals debate; and, less overtly, may serve to disassociate him from Clinton's personal scandals.

"It's taken too long for candidate Gore to join Republicans in recognizing the rightful role of churches and religious organizations in solving society's most challenging and pressing problems," said Jim Nicholson, chairman of the Republican National Committee. At the same time, he welcomed Gore's "change of heart."

A senior policy adviser to Gore, Elaine Kamarck, told The Boston Globe over the weekend, "The Democratic Party is going to take back God this time."

Aboard Air Force Two on Monday, vice presidential spokesman Chris Lehane shook his head at Kamarck's candor. He refused to speak to the politics of Gore's new emphasis on spirituality and rejected the notion that Republicans have cornered the market on religious voters.

"I don't think God is partisan," Lehane said.

Beyond current-day political expedience, Gore can lay claim to a religious and spiritual grounding. As a young man returning from Vietnam, he studied at Vanderbilt's divinity school. And in his 1991 book, "Earth in the Balance," Gore wrote of his "deeply personal" relationship with Christ.

Still, said Lehane, the vice president has never been someone to "wear God on his sleeve" and doesn't plan to now that he's running for president.

On other questions of church and state, the vice president opposes organized prayer in public schools during the school day, and he opposes using public dollars to send children to parochial schools, Lehane said.

On Monday, Gore offered a pledge to the clergy and community activists gathered at The Salvation Army: "If you elect me president, the voices of faith-based organizations will be integral to the policies set forth in my administration."

33 posted on 12/27/2003 10:41:42 AM PST by Libloather (USSC choice, Grade A, government inspected and approved, semi-free opinion...)
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To: Liz
No only are 'Rats patent frauds - they're also STUPID as a box of rocks. If you're going to execute a series of slimeball costume acts - you don't ANNOUNCE it. The media and the internet has a way of alerting people you intend to fool...even if you say it hundreds of miles away! Pinheads.
34 posted on 12/27/2003 10:44:25 AM PST by ctonious
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To: Liz; SLB
Not good to say bad about folks based on only media sources "but" from what I have seen, read and heard in soundbites..... Dean is a loser from the word go.

Sad the process of electing our leaders has become a full time ordeal........Stay Safe !

35 posted on 12/27/2003 10:51:31 AM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: Liz
If you think that's something, wait till you see him court the Goth vote out in California by touting his close personal relationship with Satan.
36 posted on 12/27/2003 10:57:02 AM PST by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: Liz
Liz,

The other sideshow in this amusing circus is that the party of sodomy and infanticide is very, very nervous about Dean's comment. Not because they fear his obvious pandering, cynicism, and transparency will cost him votes---but because the mention of the name "Jesus" in their presence causes the green pea soup mixture in their throats to flow in projectile fashion.

38 posted on 12/27/2003 11:54:04 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Liz
AMEN!
39 posted on 12/27/2003 11:56:43 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: SkyPilot
Heheh......nice take.
40 posted on 12/27/2003 1:02:50 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Hoping to Broaden his Appeal in the South, Dean admits"Im a Bigot"
12/27/03 | self


Posted on 12/26/2003 11:31:32 PM PST by woofie


Dateline Vermont...The Dean campaign admitted today that Howard Dean is not only a metrosexual but is also a bigot.

"I'm seeking the southern bigot vote." admitted Dean, "and people need to understand that I'm a bigot just like other southerners"

Capitalizing on bigotry may be a risky political move however, many experts are unsure just how this will play out in the general election.

"While Dean has been solicitous of Reverend Sharpton....the black vote is not an absolute certainty at this point," says Harvard professor, Shirley Froid, "Many blacks have announced they plan to vote for Bill Clinton in the next election."

"It shows a lack of education about the South on his part," says presidential candidate John Edwards, " We, in the South are not all bigots....some of us are black"

Coming on the heals that he plans to talk about Jesus, and eat chicken fried steaks, the announcement by Dean that he too is a bigot is seen as a "full Southern strategy" meant to solidify his base across the country.


41 posted on 12/27/2003 1:07:11 PM PST by woofie
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To: woofie
"While Dean has been solicitous of Reverend Sharpton....the black vote is not an absolute certainty at this point," says Harvard professor, Shirley Froid, "Many blacks have announced they plan to vote for Bill Clinton in the next election."

"I'll show dat suckah Clintun who de first Black president be."

42 posted on 12/27/2003 1:10:49 PM PST by Liz
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To: Savage Beast
......I also detect a strengthened commitment to Christianity among those whom I encounter.....

Glad to hear it. History tells us that those who attempt to destroy cultures are themselves destroyed in the conflagration they foment.

43 posted on 12/27/2003 1:16:33 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
I personally would love to see a "Last Supper" painting depicting the night before the Iowa caucas. Dean lecturing the 9 contenders about why he MUST go before them. Clarke bragging about how HE could have ordered a better supper had he been selected. Sharpton asking for a doggie bag. Lieberman at the far end seat, sound asleep in his applesauce. And f-in' Kerry trying to get a message to headquarters saying he accepts the 30 pieces for payment.
44 posted on 12/27/2003 1:36:40 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness
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To: small voice in the wilderness; MeeknMing
......would love to see a "Last Supper" painting depicting the night before the Iowa caucas. Dean lecturing the 9 contenders about why he MUST go before them. Clarke bragging about how HE could have ordered a better supper had he been selected. Sharpton asking for a doggie bag. Lieberman at the far end seat, sound asleep in his applesauce. And f-in' Kerry trying to get a message to headquarters saying he accepts the 30 pieces for payment. ....

Priceless depiction. Maybe we can get one of our FR graphic experts to put it together for us.

45 posted on 12/27/2003 3:04:13 PM PST by Liz
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Leading Dim candidates arrive at the Iowa Caucus.

46 posted on 12/27/2003 3:06:41 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz; small voice in the wilderness
ha ! What a great idea !

A big challenge for me, but I will look into it and see what I can come up with !

Thanks !


47 posted on 12/27/2003 3:35:49 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Hillary is a TRAITOR !!: http://Richard.Meek.home.comcast.net/HitlerTraitor6.JPG)
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To: Liz
hehe! So, uh ... when is the Iowa Carcass ? [sic, lol] ...

48 posted on 12/27/2003 3:43:20 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Hillary is a TRAITOR !!: http://Richard.Meek.home.comcast.net/HitlerTraitor6.JPG)
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To: Liz
If anyone should be destroyed--and no doubt will be--it is the devil worshippers that seek to destroy Western Civilization. Thanks, Liz.

"Evil is these ultimate stupidity."

And these satanists are extremely stupid.

49 posted on 12/27/2003 7:08:10 PM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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To: Liz
bump
50 posted on 12/27/2003 8:50:46 PM PST by GOPJ
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