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DR. DEAN GETS RELIGION ON SOUTHERN TRAIL (devout liberal panders for Christian votes)
NY POST ^ | December 27, 2003 | LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

Posted on 12/27/2003 6:08:34 AM PST by Liz

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:18:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

THE ISSUE: Howard Dean's plan to invoke God in his upcoming campaign speeches.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; catholiclist; christianvote; dean; deanschristianity; howarddean; lte; southernstrategy
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To: Liz
Maybe Dean will want to hold a prayer vigil for Osama Bin Laden and ask that Southerners not be eager to convict or kill him without hearing his side of the story.
21 posted on 12/27/2003 7:26:26 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Liz
While Dean may have been baptized, he did not often/ever go to religious services when he was at Yale. He was part of the group that ridiculed those of us who did. He seemed to be virulently anti-Catholic. (I am Catholic.)

Now, what sort of "Christian" allows his children to be raised as Jews? The answer is an fallen-away Christian whose Christian "faith" means nothing to him.

Hoser Dean is just pandering for enough Christian votes to win in the southern primaries. And it might work because almost all of the other Dim-o-crap candidates are Dean-type "Christians."
22 posted on 12/27/2003 7:29:47 AM PST by Thor_Hammar
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To: cousair; TommyDale; Savage Beast; matrix2225; randog; mystery-ak; Budge; SLB; buffyt; ecru; ...
Dean.......has spent his whole political fortune on whipping hate into the Demorat Party.....

The fundamental truth about religio-phobic Dims........They hate religion. They hate religious people.

The truth now emerges about the real source of our adversaries obsessions, a truth I've been preaching for ages. People like Dean and the liberal gangs, are motivated not by principle -- except that they worship abortion -- but a deep and abiding hatred for all things Christian and conservative.

We must begin to place Dean and his cohorts in their proper context: We need to wake up America to the hate crimes they are pepertrating on voters. Dean is part and parcel of the hate cabal that is rampaging America to remove religious symbols from public places.

Significantly, these depraved, deceptive individuals use high-faluting legal words to disguise their hatred. The hate-filled bigots loathe humanity. They hate religion. They hate religious people. They are law-breakers who are infringing on American citizens' constitutional rights.

The hidden agenda of the religio-phobic libs--despite their high-sounding legal arguments--is to decimate all references to morality, and subjugate people who espouse moral principles.

In their small, inferior, insular minds morality equates to dreaded sectarian religious beliefs.

How very successful they have been.

Everyday we see the haters' destructive results as we experience the unimaginable crimes, and the collapse of a once-thriving culture's moral underpinnings.

The haters are getting what they wanted: destruction of the moral bulwark of Western Civilization.

23 posted on 12/27/2003 7:36:25 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
I can't stand people -- especially politicians -- who either wear their religion on their sleeve or hide it like it is a guilty secret. Some politicians do both, depending on what audience they are playing to. "Talk self-righteously and carry a big Bible" seems to be their motto.

If a politician claiming to be a Christian is asked about Jesus and says something simply about "Lord" or "Savior," one might conclude one thing. One might reach a different conclusion on the other hand, if the politician says something like:
"I have always identified with Jesus. He was a good teacher. Just like Jesus, I am concerned with the poor and despised -- whether they be unemployed, high-school drop outs, in prison, or gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, transgendered or merely 'questioning.' Jesus never judged anyone except the rich, and he never demanded anything from his followers. I am in solidarity with Jesus, in all his humanity. If Jesus were alive today, I think he would be proud of the new social programs that I propose."

24 posted on 12/27/2003 7:37:11 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; Libloather; Mudboy Slim; GatorGirl; maryz; BurbankKarl; ...
To believe that Howard Dean, who signed one of the nation's first civil-unions bills, and is also a staunch defender of the euphemistically dubbed "women's reproductive health-care services" (i.e., unrestricted abortion), actually believes in anything the Gospels have to say would be like hearing the pope say that he's thinking about canceling his subscription to Playboy.
25 posted on 12/27/2003 7:39:45 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Well it's nice to know the Democrats are finally finding religion - or at least of a sort that thinks of "Jesus" as more than a cuss word.

Preacher Howie will be a welcome addition to the Reverand Al, Holy Joe and Hale-Bopp Kookinich!

Now, all we need to do is add John F'in' Kerry (is he "Jewish" or "Christian"?,... I forget), Geb Dickhardt (he's Baptist, but rarely carrys a Bible, instead he consults a union card), Carol Mostly-Fraud (between collecting welfare checks, she spent time in FrodoLand), John Edwards (as an ambulance-chaser, he probably prays daily for The Big Pile Up), and Weasley The Saint.

If we had these emminient worthys on a deck of cards, they would all be competing for the deuce of clubs.

Of course, no list would be complete without the real candidate out there: Hillary. She already has "religion". But, it's her "666" tattoo that worries me!

26 posted on 12/27/2003 7:40:29 AM PST by Gritty (These Democrats don't need votes, they need massive intervention therapy!)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
.....politicians.....either wear their religion on their sleeve or hide it like it is a guilty secret......depending on what audience they are playing to........ "Talk self-righteously and carry a big Bible" seems to be their motto.

Nice take.

27 posted on 12/27/2003 7:42:21 AM PST by Liz
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To: Gritty
Preacher Howie will be a welcome addition to the Reverand Al, Holy Joe and Hale-Bopp Kookinich! Now, all we need to do is add John F'in' Kerry (is he "Jewish" or "Christian"?,... I forget), Geb Dickhardt (he's Baptist, but rarely carrys a Bible, instead he consults a union card), Carol Mostly-Fraud (between collecting welfare checks, she spent time in FrodoLand), John Edwards (as an ambulance-chaser, he probably prays daily for The Big Pile Up), and Weasley The Saint. If we had these emminient worthys on a deck of cards, they would all be competing for the deuce of clubs.

Looks to me like they're all Jokers. LOL.

28 posted on 12/27/2003 7:45:02 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Looks to me like they're all Jokers

I think you've dealt them the right card!

29 posted on 12/27/2003 8:11:16 AM PST by Gritty (The first refuge of a scoundrel is in the Democrat Party!)
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To: Liz
"Everyday we see the haters' destructive results as we experience the unimaginable crimes, and the collapse of a once-thriving culture's moral underpinnings.

"The haters are getting what they wanted: destruction of the moral bulwark of Western Civilization."

Everything that you say (post #23) is true.

I for one am disgusted with the attacks by these decadents--everything from the Boy Scouts to Christianity.

The War on Terrorism seems to be having a catalytic effect on the West. I see slow and reluctant though definite signs of the repudiation of this decadence in the United States.

President Bush has been instrumental in this catalysis.

The begrudging praise of his recent triumphs by American and European political leaders and journalists is only one sign.

The Widespread American support of President Bush is another.

I think I also detect a strengthened commitment to Christianity among those whom I encounter.

The effects of this catalyst must be encouraged. In spite of themselves, the terrorists may be helping the people of the West to solve their most dangerous and destructive problem--decadence.

30 posted on 12/27/2003 8:50:16 AM PST by Savage Beast (September 11, 2002 was a wakeup call--and not just for Americans.)
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To: jmaroneps37
The idea that a klunk like Dean hopes to capture South Carolina is a knee-slapper!
31 posted on 12/27/2003 8:54:05 AM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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To: Liz
Dr Deanmental is a sick puppy. I kind of think his role model is Dr Mengele for some reason. Either way, Howie is scary and dangerous.
32 posted on 12/27/2003 10:40:58 AM PST by CARepubGal
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To: Liz
Gore Advisor Wants Democrats "To Take Back God"
Gore Follows Ashcroft in Backing "Faith Based" Programs for Public Good
Tuesday May 25, 1999

The Guardian - London - http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/

ATLANTA (AP) - As part of a "new partnership" between church and state, President Gore will "dare to embrace" faith-based programs with public funds and set policy with religious leaders at the table.

Such was the pledge Vice President Al Gore made Monday as he further fleshed out an agenda for Campaign 2000 that he hopes will both set him apart from President Clinton and bring him close enough to his opponents - chiefly Republican George W. Bush and Democrat Bill Bradley - to neutralize any "values" debate.

Today, he and Clinton appear together at an economic development conference in Texas before Gore resumes campaign fund raising. Three events Monday bagged him $600,000. "The moment has come for Washington to catch up to the rest of America," the congressman-turned-senator-turned-vice-president said in tones borrowed from a Washington outsider. "And Americans profoundly, rightly believe that politics and morality are deeply interrelated." Speaking at a Salvation Army drug rehabilitation center, Gore said places like that and Christ House and Christian Women's Job Corps have some of the most effective programs dealing with homelessness, addiction and mental illness precisely because of their religious bent.

"To the workers in these organizations, that client is not a number but a child of God," he said. "We should explore carefully tailored partnerships with our faith community, so we can use the approaches that are working best."

His plan essentially would expand conservative Republican Sen. John Ashcroft's "charitable choice" provision of the 1996 welfare overhaul that allowed government money to fund faith-based groups helping to move people from welfare to work.

Gore was short on specifics - communications director Laura Quinn called it a "broad idea" at this point - but he insisted no government-funded program would "promote a religious view or try to force anyone to receive religion" and that secular alternatives would be available.

Three times he said he believes in the separation of church and state.

But Terri Schroeder, a First Amendment legal analyst at The American Civil Liberties Union, said Gore's plan raises troubling questions.

"How can a religious institution counsel without proselytizing? How can you provide juvenile services without some level of coercion? How can we have any accountability for how our money is spent given the traditional separation of church and state?" Schroeder asked.

For Gore, the political benefit of religious talk is twofold: It sneaks some ground out from under Republicans who have long dominated the morals debate; and, less overtly, may serve to disassociate him from Clinton's personal scandals.

"It's taken too long for candidate Gore to join Republicans in recognizing the rightful role of churches and religious organizations in solving society's most challenging and pressing problems," said Jim Nicholson, chairman of the Republican National Committee. At the same time, he welcomed Gore's "change of heart."

A senior policy adviser to Gore, Elaine Kamarck, told The Boston Globe over the weekend, "The Democratic Party is going to take back God this time."

Aboard Air Force Two on Monday, vice presidential spokesman Chris Lehane shook his head at Kamarck's candor. He refused to speak to the politics of Gore's new emphasis on spirituality and rejected the notion that Republicans have cornered the market on religious voters.

"I don't think God is partisan," Lehane said.

Beyond current-day political expedience, Gore can lay claim to a religious and spiritual grounding. As a young man returning from Vietnam, he studied at Vanderbilt's divinity school. And in his 1991 book, "Earth in the Balance," Gore wrote of his "deeply personal" relationship with Christ.

Still, said Lehane, the vice president has never been someone to "wear God on his sleeve" and doesn't plan to now that he's running for president.

On other questions of church and state, the vice president opposes organized prayer in public schools during the school day, and he opposes using public dollars to send children to parochial schools, Lehane said.

On Monday, Gore offered a pledge to the clergy and community activists gathered at The Salvation Army: "If you elect me president, the voices of faith-based organizations will be integral to the policies set forth in my administration."

33 posted on 12/27/2003 10:41:42 AM PST by Libloather (USSC choice, Grade A, government inspected and approved, semi-free opinion...)
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To: Liz
No only are 'Rats patent frauds - they're also STUPID as a box of rocks. If you're going to execute a series of slimeball costume acts - you don't ANNOUNCE it. The media and the internet has a way of alerting people you intend to fool...even if you say it hundreds of miles away! Pinheads.
34 posted on 12/27/2003 10:44:25 AM PST by ctonious
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To: Liz; SLB
Not good to say bad about folks based on only media sources "but" from what I have seen, read and heard in soundbites..... Dean is a loser from the word go.

Sad the process of electing our leaders has become a full time ordeal........Stay Safe !

35 posted on 12/27/2003 10:51:31 AM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: Liz
If you think that's something, wait till you see him court the Goth vote out in California by touting his close personal relationship with Satan.
36 posted on 12/27/2003 10:57:02 AM PST by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: Liz
Liz,

The other sideshow in this amusing circus is that the party of sodomy and infanticide is very, very nervous about Dean's comment. Not because they fear his obvious pandering, cynicism, and transparency will cost him votes---but because the mention of the name "Jesus" in their presence causes the green pea soup mixture in their throats to flow in projectile fashion.

38 posted on 12/27/2003 11:54:04 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Liz
AMEN!
39 posted on 12/27/2003 11:56:43 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: SkyPilot
Heheh......nice take.
40 posted on 12/27/2003 1:02:50 PM PST by Liz
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