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Clinton Briefings Preceded Dean Gaffes
Newsmax ^ | December 28, 2003 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 12/28/2003 9:48:01 AM PST by nwrep

Some of Democratic presidential front-runner Howard Dean's worst campaign gaffes have followed briefings by former Clinton administration officials who were sought out by the Vermont Democrat to tutor him on foreign policy.

In August, Dean's campaign staff turned to former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who conducted a six-hour "private class" for the Vermont Democrat on Middle East issues, reported the Boston Globe in Sunday editions.

A few weeks later, Dean caused an uproar by suggesting Israel and the Palestinians should be treated in an "evenhanded" way, the paper noted.

After that blunder, President Clinton began personally advising the Vermont Democrat, ostensibly in a bid to head off any further poltically damaging gaffes. But the results have been anything but stellar for the presidential front-runner.

Shortly after his talks with the ex-president, Dean began touting Clinton as a special Middle East envoy, saying that President Bush should tap Clinton for the job now, and that he would do so if elected. In the weeks that followed Dean loaded up his campaign staff with ex-Clinton officials like Anthony Lake and Susan Rice.

Lake was regarded by critics as a security risk when he was nominated by Clinton to be National Security Advisor in 1993.

Rice has been accused of spurning efforts by Sudan in the late 1990s to improve relations with the Clinton adminisration, which included an offer to arrest 9/11 mastermind Osama bin Laden and turn him over to the U.S.

Coincidentally or not, since he's been under the tutelage of Clinton, Albright, Lake and Rice, the Democratic front-runner has careened from one rhetorical blunder on foreign policy after another.

In the last four weeks alone, Dean has accused the White House of being complicit in the 9/11 attacks, citing suspicions that President Bush received advanced warning from the Saudis but decided not to act on the tip.

Under sharp questioning by Fox News Sunday's Chris Wallace a few days later, Dean declined to back away from the conspiracy theory or apologize, saying of the bizarre allegation: "We don't know [if it's true] and it would be a nice thing to know."

Two weeks ago, Dean insisted that the U.S. was "no safer" after the capture of Saddam Hussein, and that security measures undertaken by the Bush administration had left the country no less vulnerable to terrorist attack than it had been before 9/11.

And in what promises to be the most damaging gaffe of all, Dean told a New Hampshire newspaper on Friday that it was wrong to prejudge bin Laden's guilt, even though the 9/11 mastermind had bragged of plotting the attacks in a videotape released by al Qaeda two years ago.

In what may be a window into the kind of bizarre advice Dean has been getting, Albright herself was caught ten days ago indulging in some wild-eyed conspiracy mongering, when she told Fox News commentator Morton Kondracke that she wondered if the Bush administration had already captured bin Laden, but was keeping the news on ice until just before the 2004 election.

Albright later said she had been joking.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; albright; clinton; clintonalumni; clintonhaters; dean; electionpresident; gaffe; howarddean; x42
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1 posted on 12/28/2003 9:48:02 AM PST by nwrep
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To: *Clinton Alumni; *Clinton Haters; *Election President
PING
2 posted on 12/28/2003 9:48:56 AM PST by nwrep
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To: nwrep
Does tutor mean the same as minister?
3 posted on 12/28/2003 9:50:02 AM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: nwrep
The blind leading the blind.
4 posted on 12/28/2003 9:51:47 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Hmmm. Could Clinton be feeding foolish suggestions to Dean in an effort to pave the road to the WH for Hillary?
5 posted on 12/28/2003 9:54:06 AM PST by Quilla
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To: LibWhacker
I guess Dean will have the very best advice on how to kiss Kim Jong's little wrinkled ass.
6 posted on 12/28/2003 9:54:43 AM PST by Abcdefg
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To: nwrep
I thought the Clintons were behind Clark.
7 posted on 12/28/2003 9:56:58 AM PST by Tired_of_the_Lies
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To: nwrep
Would you take advice from this human tapeworm?

Here it is seen just after a ceremony in which the mayor of Paris made her an honorary French citizen. Yup. That's where I'd get my advice..........

I hope that she's the model for the 72 virgins that Allah must be mass producing these days.

8 posted on 12/28/2003 9:57:41 AM PST by 11B3 (Democratic Socialsts of America: 78 members in Congress. Why???)
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To: nwrep
After that blunder, President Clinton began personally advising the Vermont Democrat, ostensibly in a bid to head off any further politically damaging gaffes. But the results have been anything but stellar for the presidential front-runner.

Macadamia Nuts 101
Cigar Tricks for the Rudderless Head of State
9 posted on 12/28/2003 9:57:50 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Abcdefg
What is happening is that clinton is a sociopath, a smart, glib one. He is tutoring DEan who lacks his ability to charm the birds from the trees. Without the charm and fancy talking and pseudo just like us manner, we can see the real thoughts. Dean is Clinton's mouthpiece without the fog of Clinton's ability to lie and charm. It is amusing. We are seeing the Clinton truth, unvarnished, and it is not pretty.
10 posted on 12/28/2003 9:57:56 AM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: nwrep
Dean began touting Clinton as a special Middle East envoy, saying that President Bush should tap Clinton for the job now, and that he would do so if elected.

If that comes to pass, Israel will probably nuke Washington as a pre-emptive defensive measure.

11 posted on 12/28/2003 9:59:07 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right.)
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To: Quilla

12 posted on 12/28/2003 9:59:07 AM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: 11B3
one ugly hag
13 posted on 12/28/2003 9:59:26 AM PST by petercooper (DEAN = Democrats Experiencing Another Nightmare)
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To: nwrep
Democrats schooling Dean on foreign policy (Maddy the school marm)
14 posted on 12/28/2003 9:59:31 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (HAPPY NEW YEAR!!)
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To: Quilla
"Hmmm. Could Clinton be feeding foolish suggestions to Dean in an effort to pave the road to the WH for Hillary?"


Now, where EVER could you have come up with such an outlandish conclusion as that?!? (tongue planted firmly in cheek)

15 posted on 12/28/2003 10:01:42 AM PST by Maria S ("…the end is near…this time, Americans are serious; Bush is not like Clinton." Uday Hussein 4/9/03)
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To: nwrep
Despite the media's constant mantra that Clinton was brilliant, I never found him so. Articulate, yes, until one actually reads what Clinton says and then you realize it makes no sense but is only a bunch of feel-good crap.

IF Clinton is coaching Dean, it must be quite interesting, considering that Dean has said if elected president he would remove the Clinton's bagman, Terry McCauliffe.

This would explain the gaffes that Dean has made, seemingly EVERY day. Clinton doesn't want Dean to win, for a variety of reasons, not least of which is the Clinton's need McCauliffe.
16 posted on 12/28/2003 10:05:34 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: nwrep
President Clinton began personally advising the Vermont Democrat

Clinton, briefs, Vermont DimRAT?

Do we have a new twist developing in the ongoing saga of the Bent Member's legacy?

17 posted on 12/28/2003 10:07:06 AM PST by putupon (-; Hey ArbustoRobustezas, those rose colored glasses ain't what's making Jorge look Pinko! ;-)
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To: nwrep
Is Dean stupid enough to believe that the Clinton administration would actually HELP him?
18 posted on 12/28/2003 10:15:10 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: nwrep
Wait a minute,what did BeelzeBubba EVER know regarding foreign affairs?I thought it was"The Economy,Stupid"!!
19 posted on 12/28/2003 10:19:18 AM PST by bandleader
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To: LibWhacker
Dear LibWhacker,WELL SAID!!!!!!!!
20 posted on 12/28/2003 10:20:15 AM PST by bandleader
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To: Tired_of_the_Lies
It's all a sham to DEFEAT the DemonRats in 2004 thus paving the way for HildeBeast to run in 2008!
21 posted on 12/28/2003 10:21:38 AM PST by bandleader
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To: 11B3
RIGHT Onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22 posted on 12/28/2003 10:22:27 AM PST by bandleader
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To: al baby
I have never seen that infamous footage, and all I have to ask is how can people claim this guy is soooooooo smart? He is such an overrated President, IMO.

I was astounded that the media treated his 'that depends on what the meaning of is, is' tactic as some sort of genius. I, and millions of other kids perfected that at around the age of 8. I'll say it again; he ain't as smart as the chatterin' classes say he is, and he and his wife are as beatable as the red-headed stepchild so similarly disposed.

23 posted on 12/28/2003 10:26:19 AM PST by AlbionGirl ("Ha cambiato occhi per la coda.")
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To: Quilla
Hmmm. Could Clinton be feeding foolish suggestions to Dean in an effort to pave the road to the WH for Hillary?

Could be. But Howie hired these people. On that basis alone, Dean is just too STUPID to be president....

24 posted on 12/28/2003 10:32:33 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: 11B3
A photo of that thing and a photo of the Reno - a crushing rebuttal to the "there's no difference between the two biggest parties" canard.
25 posted on 12/28/2003 10:34:10 AM PST by 185JHP ( And Ehud said "I've got a message from God for you!")
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To: Peach
"Despite the media's constant mantra that Clinton was brilliant, I never found him so."

Amen to that. And the same goes for Hillary. What an incredibly overrated intellect. But I guess in the valley of the Democrat blind, the one-eyed is king.
26 posted on 12/28/2003 10:49:36 AM PST by raptor29
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To: raptor29
bump
27 posted on 12/28/2003 10:53:31 AM PST by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: nwrep
Dean is an idiot, pure and simple. I don't care if he earned a medical degree somewhere; the statements that come out of the man's mouth betray that he is clearly an absolute functional idiot. Why anybody thinks he's the kind of materials to run for President of the United States is just completely beyond me.
28 posted on 12/28/2003 11:05:56 AM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
29 posted on 12/28/2003 11:08:06 AM PST by SJackson
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Another point in favor of casting my vote for Dean in the New Hampshire primary.
30 posted on 12/28/2003 11:12:44 AM PST by mvpel
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To: nwrep

THE REAL DEAL: Unlike the weasels, democrats, and terrorist appeasers,


31 posted on 12/28/2003 12:03:07 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: al baby
If you're thinking what I think you're thinking, a la Clinton and Jesse the Jack*ss, EEEEEWWWW! Dean & Madeleine Albright? EEEEEEEW again!
32 posted on 12/28/2003 12:19:25 PM PST by Theresawithanh
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To: nwrep
In August, Dean's campaign staff turned to former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who conducted a six-hour "private class" for the Vermont Democrat on Middle East issues

Woulda done better having Maddy teach him to make beds and dust furniture.

33 posted on 12/28/2003 12:25:05 PM PST by Stultis
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To: Quilla
Bingo!
34 posted on 12/28/2003 12:31:02 PM PST by trek
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To: Quilla
If by pave the road you mean to ensure his loss in '04, I agree.
35 posted on 12/28/2003 12:35:49 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: raptor29
But I guess in the valley of the Democrat blind, the one-eyed is king.

Please in future avoid references to the Impeached One's bent member. Thank you.

36 posted on 12/28/2003 12:36:23 PM PST by Stultis
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To: nwrep; NYC Republican; Lazamataz; Howlin; Perlstein; LS; holdonnow; remember
If you look at the so-called "leadership" of the current Democratic Party, all that you see are amateurs like Terry McAuliffe and James Carville and Al Gore running around trying to tell Black voters that they are their best chance (among other such nonsense), etc.

It's revolting at a moral level. It's revolting at an intellectual level. It's revolting to even picture these lilly white asses claiming to be pro-Black, among other such rubbish.

None of these clowns know word one about real foreign affairs. They all think that foreign affairs are when you sleep with a married French woman.

It's pathetic. More specifically, THEY are pathetic.

In fact, the only reason that they have avoided political disaster for this long is because Ross Perot drew enough votes to give two elections to Clinton, who never once won a majority of the popular vote (a plurality, yes, but not a majority).

And the only reason that Clinton could eek out more votes than Bush and Dole (with Perot in both races) was because he had the unique charm to be able to unite all politically correct drones throughout our nation, including our news media.

No one speaks of "Clinton's policy" on *anything* today.

He did nothing. He has utterly no Presidential legacy. His tax increases have already been rolled back by Bush, as has his veto of the Partial Birth Abortion ban.

There is no Clinton Doctrine. There is no Clinton Treaty.

8 years in power and all that he managed to do was enlighten the American public as to why they should elect Republicans to clear out fellow Democrats like himself.

Yet the Democrats are still run by his ilk.

God only knows that loyal Democrats such as former NYC Mayor Ed Koch, Senator Zell Miller, former California Governor Jerry Brown, and even players like Andrew Cuomo in NY are all screaming at their fellow Democrats to kick out all of these Clintonian amateurs...but nooooooo...they all keep thinking that if they just "blame Bush" for enough things, and if they just scream loud enough, that somehow the American public will rush back into their idea-less Party in droves.

Ain't gonna happen.

37 posted on 12/28/2003 12:39:38 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: nwrep
"In August, Dean's campaign staff turned to former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright,"

This campaign just gets better and better. The next 11 months are going to be a riot-fest of politcial entertainment.
38 posted on 12/28/2003 12:43:39 PM PST by Rebelbase (If I stay on-topic for more than 2 posts, call 911, because something is wrong.)
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To: AlbionGirl
I have never seen that infamous footage, and all I have to ask is how can people claim this guy is soooooooo smart?

Well he did get 43% in 92 and with a booming economy and peace as an incumbent he got 49% in 96
And of course it was shear genius how he engineered a GOP takeover of the House and Senate in 94
39 posted on 12/28/2003 12:49:16 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Southack; dix; humblegunner; antivenom; bobbyd; eastforker; Flyer; Humidston; olliemb; PetroniDE; ..
Ping to a Southack homerun!!!
40 posted on 12/28/2003 12:54:32 PM PST by Eaker (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. - Lazarus Long)
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To: Southack
While all your points are salient, I think you missed the point of this thread....

It's as simple as this: Clinton et. al. want Dean to muff it so Clark can run as the nominee. Hillary will take the Veep slot and not need to surrender her Sentorial post, a'la Joe Lieberman.

Clinton advises, Dean messes up. Coincidence? I think not.

41 posted on 12/28/2003 12:55:55 PM PST by Lazamataz (I slam, you slam, we all slam, for Islam!)
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To: Lazamataz
I think that you are close ..... but it will be Hillary at the top of the ticket, with Clark as #2.

42 posted on 12/28/2003 1:03:30 PM PST by Eaker (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. - Lazarus Long)
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To: Lazamataz
"While all your points are salient, I think you missed the point of this thread... Clinton advises, Dean messes up. Coincidence? I think not."

Yeah, but it's an article from *newsMAX*, so it's hardly worth commenting on directly. I don't deny that you are correct about what the article said, but I'm on a different track, pointing out the more important point that the Democrats are run by amateurs, have no new ideas, don't have the "charm" that Clinton had to unite all politically correct groups, and that the Democrats have such a shallow pool of talent that White-Guy Gore is claiming to be their "draw" for Black votes.

If Sam Rayburn were alive today he'd be kicking the crap out of these amateurs who have somehow climbed to the top of the Democratic Party. Lyndon Johnson would keelhaul Carville and Clinton. The powerful Democrats of old make today's Democratic Party misfits look like cartoon characters in comparison.

43 posted on 12/28/2003 1:10:05 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
He did nothing. He has utterly no Presidential legacy.

What about the BJ's in the Oval office?
The failure to take Osama into custody on several occasions?
His impeachment?
Redefining sex to exclude fellatio?
The last minute pardons?

Please don't try to take that poor man's legacy away!

44 posted on 12/28/2003 1:11:39 PM PST by e_engineer
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To: 11B3

45 posted on 12/28/2003 1:11:53 PM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: 11B3
I hope that she's the model for the 72 virgins that Allah must be mass producing these days.

Actually, the Islamists are having production problems, and they are having to recycle used virgins for newly dead idiots. Sloppy seconds are now in operation.

46 posted on 12/28/2003 3:43:53 PM PST by expatpat
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To: nwrep
How many times is Charley Brown Dean going to keep trying to kick Lucy's football?
47 posted on 12/28/2003 3:45:55 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: 11B3
Here it is seen just after a ceremony in which the mayor of Paris made her an honorary French citizen.

Well, that makes her equivalent to the cop murderer Mumia Abu Jamal. How fitting. Actually, Maddie would probably consider being honored like Mumia as a great compliment.

48 posted on 12/28/2003 3:49:49 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: al baby
Awesome clip!
"Hahahahahaaa.... (oops, a camera)....(Sniff)... Poor ole Ron. What a tragedy. (Sniff)"
49 posted on 12/28/2003 3:51:23 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Eaker
"but it will be Hillary at the top of the ticket, with Clark as #2."

Naw, Hillary won't mind being number two.........for a few days.
Then old Clark is going to grow a hole in the top of his head.

50 posted on 12/28/2003 4:25:43 PM PST by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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