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Posted on 12/28/2003 10:15:25 AM PST by rs79bm

SOMEHOW, "The Beagle has landed' just doesn't have the same ring as a certain, similar phrase coined in 1969 when Neil Armstrong and company first landed on the moon.

But the Mars lander dubbed the Beagle 2 was named by British scientists and engineers, who have a rather drier, less grand approach to space-exploration nomenclature than their American cousins. And the craft is named after English explorer and naturalist Charles Darwin's vessel, so there is a fine historical precedent at work.

As of Friday, there still had been no word or rather, no nine-tone song written by the Brit-rock group Blur, which actually helped finance the mission from the Beagle, and there are worries about its safety. The craft was to have landed Christmas Eve our time, and to have transmitted its dulcet tones signaling its safe arrival by now. But NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter couldn't find the Beagle on Christmas or on Friday as it flew over the broad basin called Isidis Planitia where the craft was to have landed. A Stanford radio telescope is still searching for Beagle this weekend.

It's not easy, looking for life on Mars. Two-thirds of the missions launched by Earthlings to the Red Planet have gone wrong over the years. Only one of six Russian attempts have made it and that craft was able to broadcast for all of 20 seconds before fading away. A Japanese mission headed for Mars orbit in recent weeks went awry. Most famously and most heartbreakingly for the world's leading experts on robotic space exploration, the folks at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Canada Flintridge, the 1999 Mars Polar Lander and its orbiter both failed. That led to a slowdown in the whole Mars exploration effort and cancellation of a landing planned for 2001.

But we agree with the engineers who say that the rough going should not make us give up on efforts to explore the planet most closely resembling our own in our solar system. Of course it's hard just getting spacecraft tens of millions of miles away; successfully negotiating a landing and scientific research on a remote world is naturally going to take some practice. From each mission, a total success or not, we learn much more for the efforts to come. The orbiter for the Beagle is still operating well, for instance, and has a scientific mission of its own.

And for the American space program, those efforts begin in earnest again Jan. 3 and 24, when two robotic rovers, Spirit and Opportunity, are scheduled to land in separate Martian areas thought to be prime candidates for having been under water at some time in the distant past. Where there is water there may have been life and finding signs of life elsewhere in the universe is the ultimate prize in space exploration and in expanding human knowledge. Tang and other byproducts for use here on Earth are fine, too. But here on the verge of discoveries previous human generations could only have dreamed of, Americans and citizens of the world are participating in an unrivaled age of exploration.

TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beagle2; eagle2; lostmarslander; lostmarsprobe; mars

1 posted on 12/28/2003 10:15:25 AM PST by rs79bm
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To: rs79bm

Professor Colin Pillinger, the Brit who headed up this effort, is a PR genius. From the warm puppy overtones of the name "Beagle" to his continual use of mother-and-baby imagery when discussing this $62 million contraption, this guy has the whole world wondering what happened to his toy.

Listen to this, from this article:

    there are worries about its safety

Its safety? Gimme a break, it's a hunk of tin. If it went -splat- into the mountainside, that's too bad, but that's why we send machines instead of people at this stage of our Mars "expertise."

    dulcet tones signaling its safe arrival

Our own more prosaically named Mars Exploration Rovers are due to arrive soon, and I bet they won't be emitting any dulcet tones. And the satellite already in place overhead isn't their mommy. But maybe they will do something else. Maybe they will work.

2 posted on 12/28/2003 10:36:27 AM PST by Nick Danger ( With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
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To: rs79bm
HELLO EARTH...We MARTIANS are tired of your space crap. You keep sending one after the other and we keep SMASHING the S#!T out of them! Won't you EVER learn?

PS: Send Pamela Anderson back.

3 posted on 12/28/2003 10:39:31 AM PST by jaz.357 (We should be more open-minded toward people trying to kill us.)
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To: rs79bm
It's true. We're eating the hardware.
Send more probes. They're delicious.
4 posted on 12/28/2003 10:43:44 AM PST by martian_22 (Got 30 weight?)
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To: martian_22

Marvin and his Illudium Q-38 Explosive Space Modulator strike again.

5 posted on 12/28/2003 10:47:00 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: jaz.357

P.S. --send more cameras next time.
6 posted on 12/28/2003 11:05:54 AM PST by rs79bm (Insert Democratic principles and ideals here: .............this space intentionally left blank.....)
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To: rs79bm
Is this it ?
7 posted on 12/28/2003 11:24:51 AM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: Nick Danger

9 posted on 12/28/2003 11:27:35 AM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: mewzilla
It's so me.
10 posted on 12/28/2003 11:37:28 AM PST by martian_22 (We're the New Galactic Order and nobody's sweet heart.)
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To: martian_22
Pasadina: Looking good, going good, we're getting great pictures here at NASA control Pasadina. Landing craft touched down on Mars 28 kilometers from the aim point. We're looking at a remarkable landscape, littered with different kinds of rocks. Red, purple... how about that, Burmuda?
Burmuda: Fantastic. Look at that dune field!
Pasadina: Hey, wait, I- I'm getting a no-go signal. Now I'm losing one of the craft. Hey Burmuda, you getting it?
Burmuda: Nah, lost contact. There's a lot of dust blowing up there.
Pasadina: Now I lost the second craft. We got problems.
Burmuda: Full contact lost, Pasadina. Maybe the antenna's--...
Pasadina: What's that flare? See it? A green flare coming from Mars. Kind of a green mist behind it. It's getting closer. You see it, Burmuda? ...Come in, Burmuda! ...Houston, come in! What's going on... tracking station 43 Canberra, come in Canberra!... tracking station 63, can you hear me Madrid... can anybody hear me? Come in...! Come in...........!

11 posted on 12/28/2003 11:39:55 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
It's from Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds, and I don't think the transcriber can spell :)
12 posted on 12/28/2003 11:40:50 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Nick Danger
"Professor Colin Pillinger, the Brit who headed up this effort, is a PR genius."

LOL. Have to admit he snared me in :) I am so wery wery worried about our the poor wittle Beagle. Hah. Nice job Prof.
13 posted on 12/28/2003 11:41:05 AM PST by Fenris6
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To: mewzilla
"The chances of life existing on Mars are a million-to-one" he said....

Better ready the THUNDERCHILD, just in case.


14 posted on 12/28/2003 11:43:46 AM PST by Jonah Hex (Free Republic - the Truth Shall Make You Fret)
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To: Jonah Hex
And scattered about it, some in their overturned war-machines, some in the now rigid handling-machines, and a dozen of them stark and silent and laid in a row, were the Martians -- DEAD! -- slain by the putrefactive and disease bacteria against which their systems were unprepared; slain as the red weed was being slain; slain, after all man's devices had failed, by the humblest things that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this earth.
15 posted on 12/28/2003 11:46:44 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
Sorry. The Earth just had to go.
It blocked my view of Venus.

16 posted on 12/28/2003 11:48:17 AM PST by martian_22 (Acme disintegrator ray guns. They're swell!...And they'll put more than your eye out.)
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To: rs79bm
Look at the bright side, this could have been a manned mission to Mars.

Robots first, Man second!

17 posted on 12/28/2003 11:50:39 AM PST by Hunble
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18 posted on 12/28/2003 11:51:04 AM PST by mewzilla
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LOL, the Europeans have not have good luck vis-a-vis the US this year. May this continue unabated in 2004.....
19 posted on 12/28/2003 12:13:01 PM PST by Malcolm (not on the bandwagon, but not contrary for contrary's sake either)
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To: martian_22
The Earth just had to go.

It was infected with liberals. As the infected cows go, so go the infected planets.

OTOH, to build bypasses...

20 posted on 12/28/2003 12:13:23 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
...Should have sub-contracted the Vogons...cheaper you know.
21 posted on 12/28/2003 12:25:03 PM PST by martian_22 (I alway knew there was something fundamentaly wrong with the universe.)
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To: Malcolm
The Europeans have collapsed under their own socialism... So much would be possible if only we could get beyond the monopolistic corruption that still pervades our bureaucratic governments’ SOCIALIST space programs. Related thread:
Did Astrium, an ESA-anointed monopolistic contractor, actually WANT its lean-budgeted Beagle 2 Mars mission to fail in order to secure greater funding for subsequent interplanetary missions funded by increasingly stimulated European taxpayers? Why won’t ESA and NASA simply offer COMPETITIVE PRIZES?

22 posted on 12/28/2003 1:08:23 PM PST by Analyzing Inconsistencies
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