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Patriot Act Used to Snag Rush Limbaugh?
2003 Insight/News World Communications Inc. /World Net Daily ^ | December 29, 2003 | John Berlau

Posted on 12/29/2003 4:24:20 AM PST by joesnuffy

Edited on 12/29/2003 2:22:44 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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If we're using the new terrorism money-laundering laws to broaden our tax-cheat powers, that would be a mistake.

-- Paul Rosenzweig, a former Justice Department official and adjunct professor at George Mason University Law School

If these provisions are good enough to go after terrorists, they're good enough to go after drug dealers and child molesters.

-- Mark Corallo, Justice Department spokesman

1 posted on 12/29/2003 4:24:21 AM PST by joesnuffy
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1047970/posts
Money Laundering and Mission Creep (most onerous & costly element of Patriot Act engineered by Dems)
Insight Magazine ^ | 26 December 2003 | John Berlau


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1047908/posts
WITH A WHISPER, NOT A BANG (Patriot Act II signed by President on December 13, 2003)
San Antonio Current ^ | 12/24/03 | David Martin
2 posted on 12/29/2003 4:31:09 AM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: joesnuffy
...if these provisions are good enough to go after terrorists, they're good enough to go after drug dealers and child molesters...

Mission creep, before the ink's dry.

Can you imagine how the PATRIOT Act will be abused, ten years down the track?

3 posted on 12/29/2003 4:35:53 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: joesnuffy; backhoe
Florida law requires a subpoena, not a warrant, to sieze medical records. And not until an attempt has been made to obtain a release from the victimpatient. Even then, they can't take the entire record - just a list of visits and other non-personal stuff. See this post.

I believe that there is a good chance that the Patriot Act was used to sieze these records.

4 posted on 12/29/2003 4:41:57 AM PST by snopercod (I've posted a total of 576 threads and 15,783 replies. Remember me when I'm gone.)
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To: backhoe
The genie is already out of the bottle and there is no way in hell that it's going back in!
5 posted on 12/29/2003 4:54:12 AM PST by philman_36
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To: joesnuffy
Rush caught himself. Don't blame the law. No one wants to give illegal aliens a break (I don't) because they are breaking the law. The problem I have with Rush ( I don't respect him anymore) is that he was paying blackmail money to drug dealers, rather than go to the FBI, and have them put in prison. Now that would have been a really courageous thing to do.
6 posted on 12/29/2003 4:55:13 AM PST by marty60
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Can you imagine the Patriot act under Reichsführer President Hillary?
7 posted on 12/29/2003 4:56:35 AM PST by KarlInOhio (A little bloodletting and some boar's vomit, and he'll be fine!)
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To: KarlInOhio
Yep.

Wacos and Elians, every week.

8 posted on 12/29/2003 4:57:48 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: KarlInOhio
Can you imagine a President Hillary? ME NEITHER~
9 posted on 12/29/2003 5:18:37 AM PST by buffyt (Howard Dean doesn't have a leg to stand on.... because he has BOTH FEET in his MOUTH!)
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To: marty60
Drug addiction is very powerful, trumps all. It sets ones value sytems on it's head. Every addict will violate his personal morality when necessary, doesn't make it right, just a fact. Maybe you can respect Rush for courageously take measures to arrest this physical, mental and spiritual affliction. regardless of what prompted him to do this.
10 posted on 12/29/2003 5:20:08 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon
Drug addiction is very powerful, trumps all. It sets ones value sytems on it's head. Every addict will violate his personal morality when necessary

This is true, which is why I hope that Rush will finally come around to understanding that no drug addict should be "treated" through the criminal justice system.

11 posted on 12/29/2003 5:23:23 AM PST by Hillary's Folly (Imagine there's no Hillary. It's easy if you try.)
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To: snopercod
I would think that, if the warrant is disallowed,
the prosecutors will get a subpoena to look at
Rush's records.
12 posted on 12/29/2003 5:58:24 AM PST by greasepaint
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To: backhoe
The senatorial offices of Daschle, Sarbanes and Kerry did not return Insight calls asking for their views about the nonterrorism uses of the USA PATRIOT Act provisions they championed, and neither did Kerry's presidential campaign.

Good articles and I've no doubt the facts are correct - it will be interesting to hear the spin if any that 'this is Bush's fault...'.

13 posted on 12/29/2003 6:31:03 AM PST by yoe (Little Tommy Daschle and tantrum throwing little Gen. Clark are like farts in a skittle.....)
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To: backhoe
But there also are increasing numbers of prosecutions in which a money-laundering charge appears to be added just to beef up cases where the underlying charges are minor, say critics. In a case to which Meese points that now is on appeal to the Supreme Court, money-laundering charges were added to the weak "environmental-crime" case of David McNab. The fisherman was charged in 2000 with violating the Lacey Act, which makes it a crime to "import fish or wildlife taken in violation ... of any foreign law."

The foreign law in question was a Honduran regulation that made it a crime to harvest lobsters with tails less than 5.5 inches long. While Honduran government officials testified that the law actually was null and void, and only about 3 percent of McNab's lobsters had tails less than 5.5 inches, prosecutors somehow convinced the courts that McNab's depositing of the proceeds of this "crime" in his bank account constituted money laundering.

Heritage's Rosenzweig and civil-liberties groups, such as NACDL, have signed a letter urging the Supreme Court to hear the case and free McNab, who has spent the last four years in prison. (The Justice Department had no comment on McNab's case.)

4 years for depositing money? WTF.

So who will they charge next with "structuring," the older couple who start giving Christmas gifts to their 6 children from the money they saved all their lives in the amount $9,999?

Oh, and I like that statist biatch who thinks that people who don't want the government to know what they are doing with their money should be charged with a crime....

14 posted on 12/29/2003 7:24:46 AM PST by Abundy
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15 posted on 12/29/2003 8:01:03 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You know how those liberals are. Two's Company but three is a fundraiser.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Re:"Can you imagine how the PATRIOT Act will be abused, ten years down the track?" Can you imagine how Reno would have used it against Gun Owners. The thing to remember is chances are in 2008 there will be a Reno clone!
16 posted on 12/29/2003 8:13:08 AM PST by TheFrog
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To: ConservativeMan55
Bump in support of Rush!!!!!!
17 posted on 12/29/2003 8:28:18 AM PST by E.G.C.
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18 posted on 12/29/2003 8:31:13 AM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: HankReardon
Your statement about addiction is mythology and invitation to victimology. The most addictive drug of all is tobacco and thousands of people quite each year. In fact, there are more ex-smokers in the U.S. than smokers. How did they quit if addiction makes people so "helpless?"

People who smoke, drink, and use other drugs on a habitual basis are not slaves, and you keep excusing if you are argue that they are.

19 posted on 12/29/2003 8:32:20 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: E.G.C.
Bump back at ya in support of Rush!
20 posted on 12/29/2003 8:33:51 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You know how those liberals are. Two's Company but three is a fundraiser.)
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