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How FDR's New Deal Harmed Millions of Poor People
http://www.cato.org/dailys/12-29-03.html ^

Posted on 12/29/2003 9:55:56 AM PST by Stew Padasso

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To: kylaka
I will likely read it. We've got to develop a more common understanding of what really happened to limited government, and I will be willing to carry the message.

Calling Ann Coulter. Maybe this book will be like the information learned from the Venona decrypts that in effect exonerated Joe McCarthy; that is, the Rosenbergs were really, really guilty, there were traitors in the government. First, academics establish the basic facts. That won't stop liberals from spewing the lies. The Treason model is Ann Coulter nukes their lies with an entertaining polemical history.

21 posted on 12/29/2003 1:19:17 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: NutCrackerBoy
"the Rosenbergs were really, really guilty, there were traitors in the government"

There still are traitors in government.

22 posted on 12/29/2003 2:38:28 PM PST by kylaka
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To: Grampa Dave
Many in his organization wonder how he wrote the 1200 page FDR book while supposedly running the company store.
23 posted on 12/29/2003 3:29:52 PM PST by Liz
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To: what's up
Churchill was defeated just as the war ended.
24 posted on 12/29/2003 7:16:44 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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To: Stew Padasso
See Also:

FDR's Raw Deal Exposed ^
      Posted by Cathryn Crawford
On News/Activism ^ 08/30/2003 1:59:46 PM CDT with 369 comments


Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 9.30.03 | Thomas Roeser
FDR's Raw Deal Exposed August 30, 2003 BY THOMAS ROESER For 70 years there has been a holy creed--spread by academia until accepted by media and most Americans--that Franklin D. Roosevelt cured the Great Depression. That belief spurred the growth of modern liberalism; conservatives are still on the defensive where modern historians are concerned. Not so anymore when the facts are considered. Now a scholar at the libertarian Cato Institute has demonstrated that (a) not only did Roosevelt not end the Depression, but (b) by incompetent measures, he prolonged it. But FDR's myth has sold. Roosevelt, the master of the...
 

25 posted on 12/30/2003 2:47:00 PM PST by Stultis
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To: Stew Padasso
And also:

Great myths about the great depression [Thomas Sowell] ^
      Posted by aculeus
On News/Activism ^ 10/09/2003 8:22:38 AM CDT with 83 comments


townhall.com ^ | October 9, 2003 | Thomas Sowell
They say "truth will out" but sometimes it takes a long time. For more than half a century, it has been a "well-known fact" that President Franklin D. Roosevelt got us out of the Great Depression of the 1930s. That view was never pervasive among economists, and even J.M. Keynes -- a liberal icon -- criticized some of FDR's policies as hindering recovery from the depression. Only now has a book been written in language that non-economists can understand which argues persuasively that the policies of the Roosevelt administration actually prolonged the depression and made it worse. That book is...
 

26 posted on 12/30/2003 2:49:30 PM PST by Stultis
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To: cwboelter
Thank you for a most informative reply regarding my remark about the "Raw Deal". In particular, I was not aware of Churchill's criticisms of FDR's horrendous policies.

Also...

. FDR's administration (Brain Trust) was filled with utopian social-ites, such as his chief economic advisor (Rexford Tugwell) who openly praised communism for being "able to produce goods in greater quantities than capitalism, so as to spread such prosperity as there is over wider areas of the population."

Interesting. I have often thought that FDR brought his Wash DC administration from his governor's administration in Albany. Among these were the finest group of socialists, socialite fashionable communists and more insidious, communist agents loyal only to Moscow. That certainly was a bullet America dodged by virtue of the US (and USSR) having to deal with the belligerents in Berlin and Tokyo. As for socialism's ability to produce prosperity, nothing could be further from the facts as was revealed when the Soviet Union collapsed. The real, "Dirty Little Secret" of socialism, is that it always produces a shortage of necessities.

Buck.

27 posted on 12/30/2003 3:06:46 PM PST by elbucko
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To: cwboelter
I think it was the problems of the New Deal that inspired Freidrich A. Hayek to write in 1944 one of the most influential books of the 20th Century, The Road to Serfdom.

I am glad that Hayek lived long enough to see Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan embraced the lessons learned from this book and caused the great economic boom of the 1980's in the UK and USA, respectively.

28 posted on 12/31/2003 6:48:32 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: DeaconBenjamin; what's up

Yes, Churchill and his Conservative Party was voyed out. Britain's slide into socialism was presided over by a new, Labour Party, socialist government


29 posted on 02/01/2005 12:36:58 PM PST by free_european
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To: Stew Padasso
I always love to trip up liberals by asking them who was responsible for this quote:

"The lessons of history, confirmed by the evidence immediately before me, show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole out relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit. It is inimical to the dictates of sound policy. It is in violation of the traditions of America. Work must be found for able-bodied but destitute workers. The federal government must and shall quit this business of relief."

Hint: It wasn't Ronald Reagan, it was none other than FDR himself.

30 posted on 02/01/2005 12:39:34 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Stew Padasso

More great and important work from the Cato Institute.


31 posted on 02/01/2005 12:56:04 PM PST by Protagoras (No one is fit to be a master and no one deserves to be a slave. GWB 1-20-05)
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To: Stew Padasso

Another one of the big legacies was income tax witholding, i.e. right out of the paycheck before even being paid. The effects of this cannot be over-emphasized. Citizens paying their taxes voluntarily, after-the-fact, gave a level of control that was lost forever. "Tax revolts" (of which I am not advocating, mind you) were no longer possible.

Incidentally, revenues were far, far higher than anticipated, simply because so many citizens had previously declined to report all of their income, and of course it was impractical to audit millions, of course. Income tax witholding set the course for a lot of things that people take for granted to day.


32 posted on 02/01/2005 1:12:35 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: cwb

If you think FDR's "New Deal" was raw, just wait until you have to live under "The New World Order!"


33 posted on 02/01/2005 2:25:09 PM PST by Paperdoll
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