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Posted on 12/30/2003 6:43:17 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: nopardons
Not only that but out of power, the kind of Conservatism YOU want,will be even more marginalized than it is now.As if that kind of conservatism would ever fly anymore. It's quite evident the citizens of the respective states, liberal and 'conservative' alike, have been trained quite well to look to Washington for all the answers instead of their respective state governments as was intended for issues that weren't covered in the Constitution under a Federal Republic system
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:45:34 PM PST
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: Kay Soze
"No doubt he was a dictator but please enlighten me with ALL your wisdom as to why we are safer from terrorist threats now that Saddam is gone."Well, for one, he will not be able to actually fund any terrorists any more.
Secondly, we managed to actually defeat Islam's largest Army, overthrow a genocidal maniac, and establish a base in the middle of what we already know will be the war zone, a place where we can park three hundred thousand American troops, and strike at any one of several openly terrorist-supporting nations.
Last but not least, we are attracting, by our very presence in Iraq, all manners of terrorists to that country willing to fight the American troops there...we have moved the battlefield away from our own towns and cities, to theirs.
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:45:43 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
To: wingnuts'nbolts
Self reliance is no longer a conservative value.
Neither is limited government.
Neither is limited soending.
Protection for the constitution (ie CFR)
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:46:40 PM PST
by
Kay Soze
(The WMDs are in the same hiding place that Bush's conservatism is. Yes I am Bush bashing!)
To: Kay Soze
What does a 60% funding increase for the Dept. of Labor and a 70% increase in the Dept. of Education have to do with the War on Terror?"
This is what you are hot and bothered over???
I wonder what you really get excited about.
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:46:58 PM PST
by
gipper81
(Kofi Annan, The Hague, the French, the Guinean foreign minister ... the usual suspects)
To: Federalist 78
It rejected Reaganism by increasing domestic discretionary spending on items like education, energy, tariffs, and agriculture and creating an entirely new $7 trillion prescription drug entitlement for seniors that will hasten Medicare's bankruptcy. Tariffs are not "domestic discretionary spending".
They are, in fact, the source of federal revenue preferred by our Founders as being least oppressive of the American People.
But I agree that the Bush Administration has rejected Reaganism and Reagan's support of American Business. Instead, the administration represents the policy agenda of global corporatism. Under this tyrannous policy, even small, local entrepreneurs and businesses are subjected to economic disadvantage by the federal regulatory bureaucracy while the transnational giants undercut their wares in our own domestic market with imports.
To: Luis Gonzalez
Great news- Ill email this to Bloomberg so he can lighten securtiy at times square tommorw night.
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:48:57 PM PST
by
Kay Soze
(The WMDs are in the same hiding place that Bush's conservatism is. Yes I am Bush bashing!)
To: Kay Soze
"Again my solution is they do with out prescription drug benefits." So your solution is to tell them "tough sh%t...die"?
You have just lost the election, and the Dems have given the voters the program anyway...a larger one.
Your solution is sordidly grounded in your knowledge of government, or at least in the form of government that you grew up under.
It's the basic communist answer of "f#ck the people, our ideology is far more important than their needs".
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:49:51 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
To: wingnuts'nbolts
Oh it's out there alright but not often found on this site . Here it's all about keeping the Republican party in power on the hope that the Socialization of America can be arrested .
When people figured out that the elected would do anything to get reelected ..... the rest is documented as you can see . Some folks just have it so good now that they have lost the roots of there heart .
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:50:58 PM PST
by
Ben Bolt
( " The Spenders " ..)
To: billbears
Your vote will mean nothing if the entire aging American population throws its weight behind the Dem who promises relief.
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:51:24 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
To: Kay Soze
YOU are NO " Conservative " !
President Bush is NOT a SOCIALIST.
What I have to say to you, for real, would get me banned. Use your fervid imagination, dear. :-)
As all UNAPPEASEABLES/PURISTS, your grasp on reality, is tenuous at best.
You want what you want, and you demand it IMMEDIATELY, whether or not it is possible,a rational thing to do or not, or even would be accepted by the majority of the populace and Congress.
You lived in Budapest and you've the bloody nerve to call this president a Socialist ? Yoi Istamen !
To: Kay Soze
"I would much rather loose the house for the next 4,8 or even 16 years."Which is why the GOP will cut yo loose.
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:52:55 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
To: Luis Gonzalez
And your solution is to buy the election/ power with more of the peoples money.
A much larger and extended F*&& the people.
I like the founders of the nation - that believed in self reliance and responsibility.
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:53:12 PM PST
by
Kay Soze
(The WMDs are in the same hiding place that Bush's conservatism is. Yes I am Bush bashing!)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Luis, tell me this, why, all of a sudden are there several posts and threads popping up that seemingly want to ralphNADER the GOP in 2004?
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:53:44 PM PST
by
gipper81
(Kofi Annan, The Hague, the French, the Guinean foreign minister ... the usual suspects)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Which language is this? -
Which is why the GOP will cut yo loose.
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:53:53 PM PST
by
Kay Soze
(The WMDs are in the same hiding place that Bush's conservatism is. Yes I am Bush bashing!)
To: Luis Gonzalez
All my Middle East contacts are sure that Saddam was behind 911. The big gain here is the removal of a direct threat to Kuwait, Iran, Syria, Turkey, etc. Iraq's neighbors have much less of a military threat to deal with in their own military planning (at least for the forseeable future.) The indirect benefits are showing up slowly.
Saddam was a real threat in that he was a "loose cannon" with the resources of an entire nation at his disposal. It's sort of like if Lucky Luciano had the entire income of Italy to play with rather than just some US gambling and liquor revenue.
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:54:19 PM PST
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: Kay Soze
It's a typo jacka$$.
Do you have anything to add to the conversation or not?
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:54:37 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
To: nopardons
Sorry but I am willing to wait for conservatism to sprout within the GOP or another party.
Its you that want to win at any cost immediately.
Define socialism for me nonpardons.
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:57:02 PM PST
by
Kay Soze
(The WMDs are in the same hiding place that Bush's conservatism is. Yes I am Bush bashing!)
To: Kay Soze
I like the founders of the nation - that believed in self reliance and responsibility.
You were born in the wrong century and unfortunately nobody here can help you with this.
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:57:54 PM PST
by
gipper81
(Kofi Annan, The Hague, the French, the Guinean foreign minister ... the usual suspects)
To: Luis Gonzalez
ha ha ha yu can dish it but cannot take it.
You are a true socialista!
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:58:08 PM PST
by
Kay Soze
(The WMDs are in the same hiding place that Bush's conservatism is. Yes I am Bush bashing!)
To: Luis Gonzalez
So the solution is to run to the taxpayers via our local representative pimp and if our number's suffice as a special interest we can curry favour ?
Lets get back to community , charity , church and family again . The FedGov has enough power and surely with the world being shaped the way it is they have enough on the plate before them .
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posted on
12/30/2003 9:58:27 PM PST
by
Ben Bolt
( " The Spenders " ..)
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