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Why we are Conservatives
American Conservative Union ^ | DEC 03 | American Conservative Union

Posted on 12/30/2003 6:43:17 PM PST by Federalist 78

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To: gipper81
Look around you, the far right is bashing the president right along with the far left, they use the very same talking points.

The last time this happened, when "conservatives" stood on "principles", they voted for Ross Perot.

Their legacy will forever be known as the Clinton Administration.

Divide and conquer...these are not conservatives. No conservative would make a statement like they would be willing to lose control of Congress to liberals for 16 years.
61 posted on 12/30/2003 9:58:52 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I (along with your constituency) am waiting for your solution to the prescription drug crisis.

It's quite simple. Reduce or eliminate the proprietary claims of pharmaceutical companies through federal patents. The companies will have to fund their R&D privately without government assistance and the market will thrive.

62 posted on 12/30/2003 10:00:08 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: dorben
"Lets get back to community , charity , church and family again."

I am talking about fixing my car, and you are discussing the theory of combustion propelled engines.

That's not a solution, that's a pipe dream.

Government is the art of finding solutions based on reality.

63 posted on 12/30/2003 10:01:09 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Bush didn't need to mollify grannies at the expense of the rest of America to be electable in 2004.

The populist drivel being spouted about all over FR these days is disconcerting.

The cold hard truth is that genuine conservatism still has little chance of widespread popularity in this country. The only way that is ever going to change is if conservatives of the order of Rhenquist, Scalia and Thomas are seated at the bench in much greater numbers than presently exist within America, and re-define - again - the concept of a Constitutional Republic. Once that ball is set in motion, conservatism as an ideology will gain momentum and expose the present as nothing more than populism disguised as centrist pacifism with a bias against nothing more than extremist leftism.

64 posted on 12/30/2003 10:01:48 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: nunya bidness
"It's quite simple."

It's simple to type that out on the internet, in reality, it will take years to make that happen, if in fact you could ever make that happen.

65 posted on 12/30/2003 10:02:42 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Kay Soze
Were you born in Hungary?

What year were you born ?

When ( what year ) did you emigrate ?

How old were you, when you came here ?

Where ( which country ) did you attend school in and if both,what grades where ?

Was Emperor Franz Joseph a " Socialist " ?

How about Nagy ?

List the similarities and differences ( compare and contrast )the American Revolution and the Hungarian one of 1956.

Explain why Kossuth and Petofi would NOT agree with your posts and if you are incapable of doing, I shall.

66 posted on 12/30/2003 10:03:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You're right, of course. Don't flash me back to the Perot vote. I had a couple of family members do that number.

It is easy to throw names and the socialist label around. But when the seniors and soccer moms don't have anything to complain about next year, a Bush vote with be 10 times easier.
67 posted on 12/30/2003 10:04:04 PM PST by gipper81 (Kofi Annan, The Hague, the French, the Guinean foreign minister ... the usual suspects)
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To: Kryptonite
We do not exist in a political vacuum, and every theory that's postulated in FR is pie-in-the-sky.
68 posted on 12/30/2003 10:04:17 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
It is a pipe dream for people who think like you Mr. Gonzales .
69 posted on 12/30/2003 10:05:46 PM PST by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: Kryptonite
"Mollify grannies"?

Mister, there are REAL people out there getting hurt by this problem.

And they are ALL someone's granny.
70 posted on 12/30/2003 10:06:17 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: dorben
LOL!

Noticed you used the word "think", I doubt that you do that very often.

You don't even have an argument, so you resort to attacking me.

71 posted on 12/30/2003 10:07:59 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: gipper81
"You were born in the wrong century and unfortunately nobody here can help you with this." Gosh how true. Canada here we come!
72 posted on 12/30/2003 10:08:17 PM PST by Kay Soze (The WMDs are in the same hiding place that Bush's conservatism is. Yes I am Bush bashing!)
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To: nunya bidness
"Reduce or eliminate the proprietary claims of pharmaceutical companies through federal patents."

Socialism.

73 posted on 12/30/2003 10:09:01 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
So this is it really . Instant gratification and it's all about today . Now that's long term planning in the best interest of the Republic's citizens .
74 posted on 12/30/2003 10:09:20 PM PST by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Pie-in-the-sky is postulating that a "crisis" existed in the first place.
75 posted on 12/30/2003 10:12:04 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: dorben
Post 11 You can't possibly be that thick, can you?
Post 22 Could you repost that in English please?
Post 56 It's a typo jacka$$.


Theres a pattern to Luis's "debating"
76 posted on 12/30/2003 10:12:17 PM PST by Kay Soze (The WMDs are in the same hiding place that Bush's conservatism is. Yes I am Bush bashing!)
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To: dorben
"Lets get back to community , charity , church and family again."

KUMBAYA MY LORD, KUMBAYAAAAAAA!!!


77 posted on 12/30/2003 10:12:32 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
It's simple to type that out on the internet, in reality, it will take years to make that happen, if in fact you could ever make that happen.

You asked for a solution, and I provided one.

Would the seniors and AARP support my solution? I think so.

Would the federal government lose money in the prospect? Doubtful. They could always revert to imposing (constitutional) tariffs on foreign reverse-engineered products to protect domestic companies.

Would the companies complain? Yes, but only as long as it took to streamline their processes and vigorously seek backing and bright minds to solve the problem.

It's a winning proposition and where there's a will there's a way.

78 posted on 12/30/2003 10:13:18 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Kay Soze
There is a more pronounced one in yours...the absolute lack of an idea on how to approach a problem.
79 posted on 12/30/2003 10:14:17 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Kay Soze
Define " win at any cost ", but, before you do,explain to all of us, just how it's possible for the ultra Liberals and Socialists, in America, to bide their time, use incrimentalism for their purposes, but utterly IMPOSSIBLE, for you and those who agree with you, to refuse to wait, even the tiniest of time,before you dig in your heels and pull this whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa , whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa garbage.

You just keep right on asking irrelevant/irrational questions and throwing up one straw man after another. I can play this game right along with you,and better.

Having " fun " yet ?

80 posted on 12/30/2003 10:16:47 PM PST by nopardons
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