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Questions Remain After Wellstone's Accident Report [Killed by CIA Gamma Ray]
Liberal Slant ^ | 12/31/03 | Jackson Thereau

Posted on 12/31/2003 7:01:01 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar

By: Jackson Thoreau - 12/30/03

Shortly before he died in a mysterious airplane crash 11 days prior to the 2002 elections, Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone met with Vice President Dick Cheney, probably the Bush administration's most evil public face.

Cheney was rounding up Senate support for the October 2002 vote on giving the administration carte blanche to invade Iraq, with or without blessing from the United Nations. Cheney strong-armed opposing politicians like the most vindictive of mafioso leaders, and opponents usually gave in.

But not Wellstone. Whatever you thought of his progressive brand of politics, he wasn't a wimp. And that's what made him more than dangerous in the eyes of people like Cheney.

At a meeting full of war veterans in Willmar, Minn., days before his death, Wellstone told attendees that Cheney told him, "If you vote against the war in Iraq, the Bush administration will do whatever is necessary to get you. There will be severe ramifications for you and the state of Minnesota."

Wellstone cast his vote for his conscience and against the Iraq measure, the lone Democrat involved in a tough 2002 election campaign to do so. And a few weeks later on Oct. 25, as he appeared to be winning his re-election bid, Wellstone, his wife, Sheila, his daughter, Marcia Markuson, three campaign staffers, and two pilots died in a plane crash in Minnesota.

Talk about "severe ramifications."

My first hunch upon hearing about the tragedy was that the Beech King Air A-100 was tampered with by right wingers, possibly the CIA, either directly or through electromagnetic rays or some psychic mind games.

And nothing I have heard or read since then has made me drift from that hunch. I'm not alone. The Duluth News Tribune featured a column by Jim Fetzer, a University of Minnesota-Duluth philosophy professor and author, in November 2003. Fetzer wrote that an FBI "recovery team" headed out to investigate the Wellstone plane crash BEFORE the plane went down. "I calculate that this team would have had to have left the Twin Cities at about the same time the Wellstone plane was taking off," Fetzer wrote.

He wrote that "we have to consider other, less palatable, alternatives, such as small bombs, gas canisters or electromagnetic pulse, radio frequency or High Energy Radio Frequency weapons designed to overwhelm electrical circuitry with an intense electromagnetic field. An abrupt cessation of communication between the plane and the tower took place at about 10:18 a.m., the same time an odd cell phone phenomenon occurred with a driver in the immediate vicinity. This suggests to me the most likely explanation is that one of our new electromagnetic weapons was employed."

Michael Ruppert, publisher of From the Wilderness, wrote that the day after the crash he received a message from a former CIA operative who was familiar with those kinds of assassinations. The message read, "As I said earlier, having played ball [and still playing in some respects] with this current crop of reinvigorated old white men, these clowns are nobody to screw around with. There will be a few more strategic accidents. You can be certain of that."

Ruppert also interviewed two Democratic Congress representatives who said they believed Wellstone was murdered. One said, "I don't think there's anyone on the Hill who doesn't suspect it. It's too convenient, too coincidental, too damned obvious. My guess is that some of the less courageous members of the party are thinking about becoming Republicans right now."

NTSB blames pilots

But in November 2003, the NTSB blamed the two pilots of Wellstone's plane, Richard Conry and Michael Guess, for the crash. The pilots flew too high and too fast when they began a left turn toward the runway, then let it slow to dangerous levels, the NTSB said...

Several pilots said the NTSB was just looking for scapegoats. "It is hard to believe that two experienced pilots would fail to monitor airspeed," one said.

As in the case of JFK, the scapegoats who took the blame were conveniently dead.

And many questions remained.

Electromagnetic pulse device suspected

More people than Fetzer and I believe that Wellstone's plane could have been hit with an electromagnetic pulse [EMP] device that caused the aircraft to suddenly turn off course.

Electromagnetic pulses from military craft may have been responsible for several civilian airline disasters in the late 1990s, according to an article in The London Observer. In particular, Swissair 111 in 1998 and TWA 800 in 1996 both took the same route over Long Island, experienced trouble in the same region, suffered catastrophic electrical malfunctions, and were flying at a time when military exercises involving submarines and U.S. Navy P3 fighter planes were being conducted.

Experts have even testified before Congress about concerns that terrorists may use EMPs, which they said were capable of short-circuiting computers, satellites, radios, radar, and traffic lights. An EMP shockwave can be produced by a device small enough to fit in a briefcase, they said. Stanley Jakubiak, senior civilian official for nuclear command, control, communications, and EMP policy for the Defense Department, admitted in 1999 Congressional testimony that the feds have studied EMPs for years.

U.S. Marine Corp Major M. CaJohn went farther than that in a 1988 report, writing that officials had sought remedies for the effects of EMPs at least since the early 1960s. The Air Force built an EMP testing facility called TRESTLE in 1980 at Kirkland Air Force Base in New Mexico. The Navy also erected an EMP testing facility called EMPRESS I at Point Patience on the Patuxent River in Maryland. Other agencies have their own EMP facilities.

Fetzer also reports on other instances and reports, including nuclear tests by Soviets and Americans in the 1960s resulting in gigantic releases of electromagnetic energy. There is also this 1998 U.S. Department of Justice document describing these devices: http://www.ncjrs.org/txtfiles/sl298.txt.

First developed in the 19th century, EMPs now are relatively easy to obtain. Anyone can acquire an EMP generator through the Internet, such as at http://www.amazing1.com/emp.htm.

Theoretically, a person a few miles from the runway could bombard the aircraft with an intense electromagnetic pulse, which could cause an electrical failure, instantly knock out radio communication, disrupt normal engine ignition, and cause loss of steering control. The steering control surfaces on these airplanes are controlled by individual electrical actuators that are mechanically linked to the rudder, ailerons, and flaps.

This type of sabotage would leave no physical evidence on the aircraft, although it's possible that people at the airport or in the general vicinity might have noticed electrical anomalies like radio noises, a crashed computer, telephone disruption, and so on.

A Texas software engineer wrote me that EMPs damage systems by generating an electrical pulse in the system wiring. Therefore, a component would not have to be directly exposed to an EMP to be damaged. An aircraft struck by an EMP pulse would not likely die, unless the plane was hit by an extremely powerful EMP pulse.

"More likely, an EMP strike would disable delicate electronic systems, leaving electrical systems intact," the engineer wrote. "After being struck by an EMP, the aircraft would likely function more or less normally, but without any control systems, instruments, or radios. This would account for the assertion that the Wellstone plane's engines were still running when the plane hit the ground."

Another electrical engineer wrote, "You don't need anything as elaborate as an EMP generator. Standard issue radio transmitters can screw up a landing." ...

Weird cell phone interference reported

John Ongaro, a Minnesota lobbyist, wrote to Fetzer about his experience the day Wellstone died. Ongaro said he was driving to the same funeral that Wellstone and his party were flying to in Eveleth, Minn. While traveling north on Hwy. 53 near the Eveleth-Virginia Municipal Airport in the same area as Wellstone's plane, he received a call on his cell phone at precisely the same time Wellstone's King Air veered off course.

"This call was in a league of its own," Ongaro said. "When I answered it, what I heard sounded like a cross between a roar and a loud humming noise. The noise seemed to be oscillating, and I could not make out any words being spoken. Instead, just this loud, grotesque, sometimes screeching and humming noise."

What he heard may very well have been electronic interference from an EMP or microwave weapon.

One writer to talk show host Jeff Rense suggested a scenario involving "black op specialists" in a van or truck full of radio/instrument landing jamming equipment. "As Wellstone's plane approaches the airport, the VOR/ILS jamming equipment is activated, and a 'decoy' VOR signal is sent to the plane, thus tricking the plane's instruments [and the pilot] into believing the airport is somewhere several degrees off the true course to the runway," S.H. wrote. "The pilot follows that signal straight into the ground. The non-descript van, full of covert electronic jamming equipment, casually leaves the area, looking just like any other TV repair truck or moving van." ...

Among the weird events since Wellstone's death was that his successor in the U.S. Senate, Republican Norm Coleman, was named chairman of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. As Fetzer said, that's a practically unheard of position for a freshman senator with no previous experience. Could that be why Congress has not opened a formal investigation into Wellstone's death?

For my part, I'm not a big conspiracy nut who worries about this kind of thing all the time - just an average one like Oliver Stone who knows there's something sinister and weird going on in our world. I have done extensive research into the JFK assassination in Dallas. The right wing of the CIA was heavily involved in that, from Oswald's CIA connections to the Dallas mayor at that time being the brother of the former CIA deputy director who lost his job after the Bay of Pigs fiasco and blamed that on JFK. The Dallas mayor may even have approved the change in the parade route on that fateful day so it would go right by the grassy knoll and building where Oswald and probably other snipers were, where JFK met his death.

I have interviewed numerous people who reported weird things that occurred during that time, such as key witnesses dying in strange ways like mysterious plane crashes and being run over by trains in the middle of the night. I have written numerous stories on this and covered it in my book on Dallas history - and have received my share of threatening phone calls, mail opened, and the like to know I was stepping on some powerful toes.

There were also numerous JFK murder witnesses committing suicide in the months after that tragedy. The CIA has done extensive mind control work for decades - I know at least one psychic personally who started working for the CIA in the 1980s - and could possibly convince someone through such mind games to commit suicide. Could they psychically work on making a plane crash? Who knows? Anything is possible.

Similarities with Carnahan, Kennedy crashes

What about Democratic Missouri Gov. Mel Carnahan, who was killed during a close Senate race when his small plane crashed right before the 2000 election? What about John F. Kennedy Jr., who had intelligence, political ambitions, charisma, and the name, dying in a 1999 plane crash?

In both of those cases, the planes were already descending towards their landing and then suddenly wandered off their approach paths and crashed, similar to Wellstone's craft. In all three cases, radio contact appears to have been cut off while the planes were still in the air, possibly indicating electrical failures on board.

In Kennedy's case, at least one witness saw a flash in the sky and heard an explosion before the plane went down, as in Wellstone's situation. Kennedy's plane was also left unguarded at Teeterborough Airport in New Jersey, and almost anyone could have placed something inside it.

The list of high-profile Democratic politicians killed in plane crashes goes on - Commerce Secretary Ron Brown in 1996, Rep. Mickey Leland of Texas in 1989, Rep. Jerry Litton of Missouri in 1976 [who was also involved in a hard-fought election at the time], House Majority Leader Hale Boggs of Louisiana and Rep. Nick Begich of Alaska in 1972.

In fact, of 22 air crashes involving state and federal officials, including one ambassador and one cabinet official, From the Wilderness found that 14 - 64 percent - were Democrats and eight - 36 percent - were Republicans.

Add to that Raytheon Co., one of the biggest U.S. military contractors and manufacturer of the plane that crashed with Wellstone in it, being a huge donor to Republicans, and the mind continues to wonder. U.S. House Republican Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas, for instance, received $48,201 alone from Raytheon in 1997-98. The Republican National Committee received at least $170,000 from Raytheon since 1999. Raytheon donates to Democrats, too, but more than twice as much money goes to Republicans.

Raytheon has all kinds of CIA connections, as does Bush, whose father, remember, was once director of the CIA. One of the more intriguing discoveries that emerged from the NTSB's own investigation of this case was that Raytheon not only not only manufactured EM force and EM pulse weapons, but also manufactured the King Air A100. No other entity would have been better positioned to have taken it down. See http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2003/AAR0303.htm for more details.

Bush, for his part, issued some strange comments immediately after Wellstone's crash, even for him. He called Wellstone - who was an articulate, energetic, intelligent political science professor for 21 years before he was a senator - a "plain-spoken fellow." He said he wanted to issue his "condolences for the loss of the Senate." Did he mean the Democrats' sudden loss of the Senate, which occurred the day Wellstone died? Did he know something more than he let on?

Bush once called Wellstone a 'chicken shit'

There was no love lost between the Bush clan and Wellstone. In 1990, as Wellstone challenged the Persian Gulf War preparations, Bush Sr. even referred to Wellstone as a "chicken shit." When Wellstone first met Bush Jr. in 2001, the latter disrespectfully called him "Pablo."

As The Nation said in May 2002, getting rid of Wellstone was a passion for Bush, Karl Rove, and Cheney. "There are people in the White House who wake up in the morning thinking about how they will defeat Paul Wellstone," a senior Republican aide told The Nation. "This one is political and personal for them."

No senator had a more consistent record of voting against Bush administration proposals in 2001. Wellstone voted against the Homeland Security Act and many of Bush's judicial nominees. He pushed for stronger environmental programs, for genuine measures to counter corporate fraud, and for investigations into Sept. 11 and $350 million that was missing from the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

Freepers' comments I read about this tragedy were mostly tasteful - on the surface - though some jokes and conspiratorial posts were published on their right-wing site. Right after the news of the crash, some posted comments like "prayers for control of the Senate." Several comments were removed by the moderator. One that was not said, "You do realize that as we sit here praying for one of our biggest political enemies' safety, President Bush will be blamed by the Democrats [including the rabid leftists at DU and other brain-sucking sites] for the crash."

Another joked, "Maybe it was shot down by a right wing militia. We've got to ban handguns." And another said, "Ted Kennedy may have been on [the plane]." Then there was this ramble: "Politically speaking, would this be good or bad news for the GOP if he's dead? I could see him winning now like Carnahan in 2000 so that Gov. Jesse could appoint his successor. I'm thinking this is probably not good news."

And this comment: "Any bets on how quickly the Democrats will have his wife take his place on the ballot?" Hello? Sen. Wellstone's wife died in the tragedy, remember? Another post predicted that "[Republican Senate candidate in Minnesota] Coleman's campaign is dead." And then there was this message: "I pray that Wellstone and all of his aides survive, and live to see themselves defeated handily on Nov 5th...unless this is yet another of Tom 'Caligula' Daschle's election schemes." Someone else added, "Carnahan II? Ventura is the governor, not a D...this time."

Such conservatives' glee at the demise of probably the most powerful real progressive in the country was entirely evident in such comments. Many contained themselves, but we know what they're really thinking, don't we?

And a few days after Wellstone's death, right wingers were selling and displaying on their vehicles insensitive bumper stickers with messages like, "He's dead, get over it." How's that for "compassionate conservatism?"


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: airsecurity; arkancide; bds; conspiracy; conspiracytheory; iwantwhathessmoking; leftwingnut; passthebong; paulwellstone; rabidleftist; senatorwellstone; tinfoilhat; wellstonerally; zotforbrains
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I hope the NYT, WP, and Dean jump on this news.
51 posted on 12/31/2003 8:01:55 AM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: BlueLancer; 11th Earl of Mar; dighton; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; hellinahandcart; ...
Electromagnetic pulse device suspected


52 posted on 12/31/2003 8:03:38 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: All
Click here to see the Democrat Campaign Letters from Hillary Clinton and Rep. Carolyn Maloney that YOU paid for!
53 posted on 12/31/2003 8:04:03 AM PST by jmstein7
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Oh my gosh... how'd they know... now we're toast!
54 posted on 12/31/2003 8:08:07 AM PST by Godfollow
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Rush was right: When these people are out of power, they are hilarious. And please...while I felt sorry for the Wellstone family, Paul was hardly this legendary figure they've made him out to be.
55 posted on 12/31/2003 8:09:49 AM PST by cwb (ç†)
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To: Godfollow
Oh my gosh... how'd they know... now we're toast!

Nahhhh they only know about our Electromagnetic pulse drive. The don't know anything about our blue bonnet stinger and and the alpha flux hyper-lock.

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56 posted on 12/31/2003 8:15:13 AM PST by Drango (Democratic fund raising....If PBS won't do it, who will?)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
If someone used an EMP device to “destroy” the electrical circuits of the plane, wouldn’t there be physical evidence of this destruction? Certainly all of the electrical components were not “lost” during the crash. Leaving physical evidence of this type at a crash site of a prominent public figure just does not seem real wise to me.

I guess the FBI, NTSB, CIA etc were all in on the conspiracy.

57 posted on 12/31/2003 8:15:37 AM PST by schu
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To: Thinkin' Gal; BlueLancer; dighton; Constitution Day; hellinahandcart; Poohbah; general_re
Don't SHOW it to them! Now they might be able to reverse engineer it!!!

If I start posting in French, you all know what has happened...

I would sure like to know how this guy figured out that the pilot of Wellstone's plane got his Eschaton Immenantized.
58 posted on 12/31/2003 8:32:29 AM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: hellinahandcart
"Jackson Thereau", hmm. . . .
Pretentious leftist twit who's not using his birth name, I'd guess.

If his parents are as far out there as he is, I'm betting that is his birth name.

You know the old saying, "The nut doesn't fall far from the tree," and all that.

59 posted on 12/31/2003 8:36:16 AM PST by reformed_democrat
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Help me up, here...I just fell right out of my chair laughing! Ohhhhh! My sides!!
60 posted on 12/31/2003 8:40:18 AM PST by redhead (Les Français sont des singes de capitulation qui mangent du fromage.)
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To: cwboelter
He was an extremely generous man with everyone else's money.
61 posted on 12/31/2003 8:44:10 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Electromagnetic pulses from military craft may have been responsible for several civilian airline disasters in the late 1990s, according to an article in The London Observer. In particular, Swissair 111 in 1998 and TWA 800 in 1996 both took the same route over Long Island, experienced trouble in the same region, suffered catastrophic electrical malfunctions, and were flying at a time when military exercises involving submarines and U.S. Navy P3 fighter planes were being conducted***

"More likely, an EMP strike would disable delicate electronic systems, leaving electrical systems intact," the engineer wrote. "After being struck by an EMP, the aircraft would likely function more or less normally, but without any control systems, instruments, or radios. This would account for the assertion that the Wellstone plane's engines were still running when the plane hit the ground."

If EMP's allow the plane to function more or less normally, but without control systems, and TWA Flight 800 was struck by EMPs, then why did TWA Flight 800 explode in the sky rahter than crash into the sea with its engines running?

62 posted on 12/31/2003 8:50:15 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Electromagnetic pulses from military craft may have been responsible for several civilian airline disasters in the late 1990s, according to an article in The London Observer. In particular, Swissair 111 in 1998 and TWA 800 in 1996 both took the same route over Long Island, experienced trouble in the same region, suffered catastrophic electrical malfunctions, and were flying at a time when military exercises involving submarines and U.S. Navy P3 fighter planes were being conducted***

"More likely, an EMP strike would disable delicate electronic systems, leaving electrical systems intact," the engineer wrote. "After being struck by an EMP, the aircraft would likely function more or less normally, but without any control systems, instruments, or radios. This would account for the assertion that the Wellstone plane's engines were still running when the plane hit the ground."

If EMP's allow the plane to function more or less normally, but without control systems, and TWA Flight 800 was struck by EMPs, then why did TWA Flight 800 explode in the sky rahter than crash into the sea with its engines running?

63 posted on 12/31/2003 8:50:32 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: smith288
LOL! Unfortunately, it won't work. Might be OK against alphas (He nuclei) and betas (electrons), but gammas can go through solid rock. Sorry.
64 posted on 12/31/2003 8:56:16 AM PST by expatpat
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To: expatpat
Then may I recommend this?


65 posted on 12/31/2003 9:01:36 AM PST by smith288 (Secret member of the VRWC elite forces)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
CG,

Do you think it had anything to do with the Military's new Earthquake machine?
66 posted on 12/31/2003 9:03:38 AM PST by Conservomax (shill: One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into part)
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To: smith288
you're right- this guy needs the whole tinfoil suit!
67 posted on 12/31/2003 9:05:40 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: Conservomax
They seem to be related. The snow in Las Vegas was also the work of the machine. We must stop it now, for the children!

CG
68 posted on 12/31/2003 9:07:27 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Clues for sale, 20 % off through Jan 1, 2004. Don't be clueless, buy yours today.)
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To: Drango
Oh my gosh... how'd they know... now we're toast!

I just hate it when the liberal’s uncover our secret plans.

Nahhhh they only know about our Electromagnetic pulse drive. The don't know anything about our blue bonnet stinger and and the alpha flux hyper-lock.

Shut up –remember Loose lips sink ships .

69 posted on 12/31/2003 9:09:21 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas (No tagline here... move along)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
And a few weeks later on Oct. 25, as he appeared to be winning his re-election bid, Wellstone, his wife, Sheila, his daughter, Marcia Markuson, three campaign staffers, and two pilots died in a plane crash in Minnesota.

Well, no. The race was fairly tight at that point and there was no clear hint as to the outcome. And as for the vote to go to war, it was pretty clear cut that Bush was going to get it from the Senate.

I've always maintained that if Bush was going to have a 'rat senator offed, he'd have done in one in a state with a Republican governor and who wasn't up for re-election right away. A perfect candidate would have been one of the pompous gasbags from Taxachusetts, or the a-holes from New York and Florida. Wellstone's temp replacement was appointed by Ventura (Deformed Party) and only served a couple of weeks anyway.

What about Democratic Missouri Gov. Mel Carnahan, who was killed during a close Senate race when his small plane crashed right before the 2000 election?

Ashcroft was just starting to pull ahead of him when Carnahan's plane went down. If he hadn't died, Ashcroft likely would have been re-elected, and this country would have been spared the Widder Carnahan's 2 loooong years in the Senate.

What about John F. Kennedy Jr., who had intelligence, political ambitions, charisma, and the name, dying in a 1999 plane crash?

Oh, *that* was Hillary's doing. < /snicker>

The list of high-profile Democratic politicians killed in plane crashes goes on - Commerce Secretary Ron Brown in 1996, Rep. Mickey Leland of Texas in 1989, Rep. Jerry Litton of Missouri in 1976 [who was also involved in a hard-fought election at the time], House Majority Leader Hale Boggs of Louisiana and Rep. Nick Begich of Alaska in 1972.

Perhaps 'rats should start taking Amtrak and Greyhound more often...

There was no love lost between the Bush clan and Wellstone. In 1990, as Wellstone challenged the Persian Gulf War preparations, Bush Sr. even referred to Wellstone as a "chicken shit."

Yes, and? The sky is blue, but we don't need that spelled out for us, do we?

When Wellstone first met Bush Jr. in 2001, the latter disrespectfully called him "Pablo."

Considering that Bush gives nicknames to people he likes, I don't see what's so disrespectful. Now, calling him a sawed-off leftist weinie would have been disrespectful. Oh, and speaking of disrespectful (not to mention ignorant), the two Presidents Bush are NOT Sr. and Jr. They do not have identical names and the "Jr." that they keep trying to hang on GWB is just a way to demean, belittle and disrespect the man.

As The Nation said in May 2002, getting rid of Wellstone was a passion for Bush, Karl Rove, and Cheney. "There are people in the White House who wake up in the morning thinking about how they will defeat Paul Wellstone," a senior Republican aide told The Nation. "This one is political and personal for them."

Oh, I doubt that *very* much. Sure, Bush wanted to defeat him, but he wasn't exactly a high priority. Why would some leftist ex-professor with no prayer of national aspirations be a threat to Bush?

No senator had a more consistent record of voting against Bush administration proposals in 2001. Wellstone voted against the Homeland Security Act and many of Bush's judicial nominees. He pushed for stronger environmental programs, for genuine measures to counter corporate fraud, and for investigations into Sept. 11 and $350 million that was missing from the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

Not true -- most of the 'rats have the same (or very similar) voting record. But the rabid left has never let truth and facts get in the way of their regularly scheduled hissy fits.

70 posted on 12/31/2003 9:10:38 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick (Kaddafi is such a whack job that he never promoted himself past Colonel!)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Funny,

I heard about similar earlier versions of these weapons being tested on liberal targets off the coast of Massachusetts in mid July of 1969.
71 posted on 12/31/2003 9:10:44 AM PST by Conservomax (shill: One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into part)
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To: Drango
They don't know anything about our blue bonnet stinger and and the alpha flux hyper-lock.

BTW, you are wrong about the blue bonnet stinger and and the alpha flux hyper-lock, Klinton already sold that to the Chinese in 1996.

72 posted on 12/31/2003 9:14:44 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas (No tagline here... move along)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Vice President Dick Cheney, probably the Bush administration's most evil public face.

Oh boy, you know right where it's going as soon as you read that, and in the first sentence, no less! I want the tinfoil wholesaler's concession in this guy's neighborhood!

73 posted on 12/31/2003 9:16:43 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

74 posted on 12/31/2003 9:22:31 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick (Kaddafi is such a whack job that he never promoted himself past Colonel!)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
My first hunch upon hearing about the tragedy was that the Beech King Air A-100 was tampered with by right wingers, possibly the CIA, either directly or through electromagnetic rays or some psychic mind games.

I was at my sister-in-law's farm in Northern Wisconsin when we heard of Wellstone's death. Except for the bizarro "death ray" type stuff, her immediate reaction was the same: George W put a hit out on Wellstone. She also did everything but come right out and accuse my wife and I of crying crocodile tears over him. We were both genuinely saddened at his death, so young and not a bad guy as libs go. She just couldn't believe that we would be sad that the Dems lost a Senator. Of course, she also thinks we hate gay people, so, consider the source.

We didn't make it up to the farm this October...

75 posted on 12/31/2003 9:24:29 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: chance33_98
Sounds like a DU thread. Everything is a conspiracy all the time all day long.

Freep attack underway

76 posted on 12/31/2003 9:33:54 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Dang, they discovered our secret plans again.
77 posted on 12/31/2003 9:46:16 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas (No tagline here... move along)
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To: smith288
It's beautiful - everyone should have one. How long does it take to go to the bathroom?
78 posted on 12/31/2003 9:49:37 AM PST by expatpat
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
BWAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAA!

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

PS: I always thought that the Bush Administration had teleported the pilot into the 8th dimension, and then returned him to the craft an instance before it crashed. This way, no one would know.

79 posted on 12/31/2003 9:59:17 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("...the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Conspiracy Guy, did you know that you are in the running for the coveted "Most Hated Freeper" on DU?

Click here... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=591769
80 posted on 12/31/2003 10:00:21 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Drango
They do now you idiot... you just spilled the beans... now we're realy, realy, realy toast! Oh what a world what a world, ahheeeeee!
81 posted on 12/31/2003 10:03:06 AM PST by Godfollow
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
PS: I always thought that the Bush Administration had teleported the pilot into the 8th dimension, and then returned him to the craft an instance before it crashed. This way, no one would know.

I think the occupants were all sent to the same place the passengers on the "hijacked" airliners were sent. Afer all, ~we all know~ those planes were flown in by remote control.

82 posted on 12/31/2003 10:07:58 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
That's me guarding Lieberman's campaign car while it remains in a ditch. Heck, it's tough to be popular. Do they post any of my Drawf 9 poems?
83 posted on 12/31/2003 10:08:32 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Clues for sale, 20 % off through Jan 1, 2004. Don't be clueless, buy yours today.)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Many contained themselves, but we know what they're really thinking, don't we?

My God, the man is a mind reader!

Wonder if he is now biting his fingernails after scratchin his ass......Feel the power!
84 posted on 12/31/2003 10:09:59 AM PST by tet68
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
This falls into the same category of the "Republicans killed Ron Brown." I will never forget an incredible experience I had a few weeks after Ron Brown was killed by the clintons. I was at my hair salon in downtown DC; my hair dresser is black, as are many of his customers. They are educated and most are intelligent women. A few were voicing the rhetoric that the Republicans killed Ron Brown! I was stunned! But then again - this is the town that elected Mayor Barry!
85 posted on 12/31/2003 10:13:00 AM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Gotta love the claims of how censored FR is on that thread.... Of course.... We are censoring... they are just getting attacked by disruptors.... completely different thing, right?
86 posted on 12/31/2003 10:13:04 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Thinkin' Gal

"Oh, the pain!"

87 posted on 12/31/2003 10:22:42 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("...the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
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To: randog
those folks really need to start drinking more.

I agree...its a damn shame when they only drink half of their koolaid...

88 posted on 12/31/2003 10:24:07 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I must have missed the tinfoil hat warning.
89 posted on 12/31/2003 10:25:22 AM PST by TruthNtegrity (I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
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To: cwboelter
while I felt sorry for the Wellstone family, Paul was hardly this legendary figure they've made him out to be.

I didn't know who he was until he was dead.

90 posted on 12/31/2003 10:26:59 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: Conspiracy Guy
They seem to be related. The snow in Las Vegas was also the work of the machine. We must stop it now, for the children!

Shhhhhh! You shouldn't broadcast this information. To defeat the machine, you have to sneak up on it. Very bad.

91 posted on 12/31/2003 10:27:03 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("...the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
It's OK thsi is a secure post. Secure posts can't be read by lurkers. The mere fact you can read it shows me that you're one of the good guys.

CG
92 posted on 12/31/2003 10:30:32 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Clues for sale, 20 % off through Jan 1, 2004. Don't be clueless, buy yours today.)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Anytime a Democrat dies in a small plane crash the Clintons must be assumed to be behind it.
93 posted on 12/31/2003 10:39:12 AM PST by thoughtomator ("I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid"-Qadafi)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

"Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom"

94 posted on 12/31/2003 10:39:17 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (You have the right to remain silent - Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you)
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To: TruthNtegrity
The "Killed By CIA GAMMA Ray" didn't give you enough warning?
95 posted on 12/31/2003 10:41:52 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Just a few corrections from the nit-picking crowd, since Jackson knows the "facts"

There is no such thing as a P-3/EP-3 "fighter plane". The P-3 "fighter' is a Lockheed Electra converted for naval maritime and ASW recon, just ask the boys from VP-64 and VP-66. In fact if there was any ASW activity in Long Island Sound when TWA 800 went down, either Patrol 64 or Patrol 66 would have been the on-station ASW asset.

There is no such Air Force base as "Kirkland". At least not in New Mexico, but there is a Kirtland AFB and it is the home of Sandia Labs.

Although I'm not positive, I think you may need to put your tinfoil hat back on, Jackson. Those EMP's and Gamma rays are getting to you.

96 posted on 12/31/2003 10:44:16 AM PST by Duke809
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I can hear it now.

Dean: "The most interesting theory I have heard about Wellstone's death is......"

97 posted on 12/31/2003 10:44:24 AM PST by mware
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

Paul Wellstone, contemplating his return to politics and how he will be received in Washington with his "new look"

98 posted on 12/31/2003 10:49:08 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Naw Elvis did that cause Holly was gonna take all his fans.

AH HA!! I KNEW it!!

99 posted on 12/31/2003 10:49:13 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Howlin
Goofin off today Howlin?

Democratic Underground Forums - Could someone do a "Top Ten Murderous Fantasies from Free Republic" list?

100 posted on 12/31/2003 10:50:34 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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