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Joseph Kopechne Obituary (father of Mary Jo)
Times Leader ^ | 12/31/03

Posted on 12/31/2003 10:55:21 AM PST by Born Conservative

Posted on Wed, Dec. 31, 2003

Kopechne, Joseph

December 24, 2003 Joseph A. Kopechne, 90, of Swiftwater, died Dec. 24 in Stroud Manor Nursing Home, East Stroudsburg.

Born April 25, 1913, in Forty Fort, he was the son of Frank and Mary (Leitinger) Kopetchny. He served in the Civilian Conservation Corps. He worked at the shipyards in New Jersey during World War II and was employed by the Washington National Life Insurance Co. He attended Our Lady of Victory Roman Catholic Church, Tannersville, and was a member of the Knights of Columbus.

He was preceded in death by his only child, MaryJo.

Surviving, in addition to his wife of more than 60 years, the former Gwen L. Jennings, are his brother, Raymond; many nieces and nephews.

A memorial Mass will be held at 1:30 p.m. Saturday at St. Vincent's de Paul Roman Catholic Church, Church Street, Plymouth, with the Rev. Donald Williams officiating.

Funeral arrangements are by Kielty-Moran Funeral Home, 87 Washington Ave., Plymouth.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bc; chappaquidick; kennedy; kopechne; maryjo; obituary; tedkennedy
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1 posted on 12/31/2003 10:55:21 AM PST by Born Conservative
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To: Born Conservative
My guess is that he probably had an unborn grandchild too, but that will never be known.
2 posted on 12/31/2003 10:59:19 AM PST by dougiefresh
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To: Born Conservative
I never knew Mary Jo was their only child. Makes it doubly sad. I wonder if fat Teddy will send flowers.
3 posted on 12/31/2003 11:00:16 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Born Conservative
Somebody needs to smack this obituary on Ted Kennedy's head on national television and ask for his reaction.
4 posted on 12/31/2003 11:00:19 AM PST by medscribe
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To: dougiefresh
Think of all the comfort this man received from all the great social works of the good senator.

Mary Jo did not die in vain. Were it not for her death, Teddy K may well have become president.
5 posted on 12/31/2003 11:00:30 AM PST by IGOTMINE (All we are saying... is give guns a chance!)
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To: Born Conservative
Yeah, but think how hard Teddy fought on behalf of seniors like him though, mmmmkay?
6 posted on 12/31/2003 11:01:30 AM PST by The G Man (Wesley Clark is just Howard Dean in combat boots)
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To: Born Conservative
“If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old.
Through his tireless work as a legislator,
Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.”

– Charles Pierce, January 5, Boston Globe Magazine

7 posted on 12/31/2003 11:01:38 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Admin Moderator
I posted this out of historical interest. If this is an inappropriate posting, feel free to delete.
8 posted on 12/31/2003 11:04:41 AM PST by Born Conservative ("Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names" - John F. Kennedy)
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To: IGOTMINE
Mary Jo did not die in vain. Were it not for her death, Teddy K may well have become president.

Very true, just as the sacrafice of little Elian Gonzalez saved us all from President Gore's complete copitulation to militant Islam. She should never be forgotten.

9 posted on 12/31/2003 11:05:04 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Born Conservative
.... and Senator 'Ted' Kennedy is reported to have made a sizeable donation to Planned Parenthood in the Kopechnes' Memory...

-- thirty --

10 posted on 12/31/2003 11:05:35 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Born Conservative
I would like to know how many pieces of silver Mary Jo's parents accepted from Kennedy to NOT pursue an autopsy and criminal complaint against her killer. Kennedy basically let her drown, probably a few hours after the car sank - he sat on the lakefront and walked around trying to think of ways to get of the accident(?). he called a number of Kennedy retainers asking one of them to step forward to volunteer as driver of the car - but no takers.

Contrast Kennedy skating through this accident vs. the Republican rep from North Dakota who was tried for his drunk driving that led to a death.
11 posted on 12/31/2003 11:08:47 AM PST by scotiamor
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To: scotiamor
Contrast Kennedy skating through this accident vs. the Republican rep from North Dakota who was tried for his drunk driving that led to a death.

I assume you're referring to the rep from South Dakota who ran a stop sign (he wasn't drunk).

12 posted on 12/31/2003 11:21:07 AM PST by marvlus
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To: scotiamor
the Republican rep from North Dakota who was tried for his drunk driving that led to a death.

He wasn't even drunk...he's a lead-foot, drove through a stop sign on a rural highway (posted speed limit was probably 55) and a motorcyclist was killed when he broadsided Janklow.

Janklow's at fault, but yes indeed, contrast the reaction to his tragedy to "Ted's misadventure"...at least Janklow had the sincere good conscience to grieve and leave!

13 posted on 12/31/2003 11:21:11 AM PST by 88keys (I'm trying to be "new"-fashioned, but it's not working...)
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To: marvlus
Oops...right...South Dakota...and the rest of your point is right, too.
14 posted on 12/31/2003 11:22:35 AM PST by 88keys (I'm trying to be "new"-fashioned, but it's not working...)
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To: Diogenesis
“If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old.
Through his tireless work as a legislator,
Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.”

– Charles Pierce, January 5, Boston Globe Magazine


Is this for real?????
15 posted on 12/31/2003 11:23:36 AM PST by OSHA (The Constitution is a very small box made to keep the government in. It sure is crowded in here!)
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To: Born Conservative
I am certain Teddy will send flowers. The death releases Teddy from a long time, on-going financial obligation.
17 posted on 12/31/2003 11:24:28 AM PST by Tacis
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To: Born Conservative
ARGGH WRONG MURDERING KENNEDY!! I HATE BEING SICK!!
18 posted on 12/31/2003 11:25:56 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: 88keys
Does anyone find anything curious about the lack of detail given with respect to Mary Jo Kopechne?
19 posted on 12/31/2003 11:26:19 AM PST by calvin sun ("Mr. Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL")
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To: Born Conservative
"He was preceded in death by his only child, MaryJo"...who died from an apparent drowning in a car driven by Ted Kennedy, known to have escaped without being charged.
20 posted on 12/31/2003 11:26:25 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: IGOTMINE
Well, that's one way to look at it.
21 posted on 12/31/2003 11:27:30 AM PST by mel
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To: calvin sun
Not really. That's pretty standard for an obituary.
22 posted on 12/31/2003 11:29:25 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Diogenesis
That has to be the ironic statement of the century.
23 posted on 12/31/2003 11:30:08 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: IGOTMINE
Mary Jo did not die in vain. Were it not for her death, Teddy K may well have become president.

Words worthy repeating. That brave lady saved this nation from suffering another Kennedy.

24 posted on 12/31/2003 11:32:21 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
I've always wondered: Was his first name 'Little' and his middle name 'Elian'? Because that's the only way you ever saw it. Little Elian Gonzales.
25 posted on 12/31/2003 11:59:52 AM PST by why you chasin me
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To: scotiamor
More than likely, Kopechne suffocated. The diver who recovered her body from the backseat of the car, John Farrar, had enough experience with drownings to know.

- Farrar repeatedly expressed the opinion that Mary Jo Kopechne had lived for some time underwater by breathing a bubble of trapped air, and that she could have been saved if rescue personnel had been promptly called to the scene. He had equipment to administer air to a trapped person directly or to augment an air pocket inside a submerged automobile.

- "There was a great possibility that we could have saved Mary Jo's life," Farrar said. "There would have been an airlock in the car - there always is in such submersions - that would have kept her alive. If we had been called, I would have reached the scene in 45 minutes. I say 45 minutes because it was dark. ( The daylight recovery had taken 30 minutes ). The lack of light might have caused a delay of 15 minutes."

26 posted on 12/31/2003 12:01:24 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: OSHA
“If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.” – Charles Pierce, January 5, Boston Globe Magazine

Yeah, it's for real. Difficult to believe anyone is that utterly STUPID and cold-hearted, isn't it?

27 posted on 12/31/2003 12:04:42 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: why you chasin me
Oop, typo: Gonzalez.
28 posted on 12/31/2003 12:05:01 PM PST by why you chasin me
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To: Born Conservative
out of historical interest

Rightly so.

29 posted on 12/31/2003 12:06:58 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Born Conservative
The man took money from the Kennedys to remain silent.
30 posted on 12/31/2003 12:08:33 PM PST by cynicom
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To: cynicom
To be fair I'm sure Teddy's handlers had the following conversation with the father: "So sorry that your daughter is dead. Here's soome hush money. Oh and if you turn it down and try to pursue legal action we'll spread so many lies, innuendos and half truths about your daughter being the village slut that her memory will never be cleansed even with extra strength detergent."
31 posted on 12/31/2003 12:18:18 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: KantianBurke
I seem to recall the figure of $100,000 for "expenses".
32 posted on 12/31/2003 12:21:26 PM PST by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Boy, only 100k? Looks like Teddy made two killings!
33 posted on 12/31/2003 12:24:17 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Tacis
The death releases Teddy from a long time, on-going financial obligation.

Not yet; the obit states that he is survived by his wife.

34 posted on 12/31/2003 12:33:09 PM PST by Born Conservative ("Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names" - John F. Kennedy)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
When you see those actual drawings and realize that she wasn't that deep, it would have been I think a fairly easy rescue compared to going in a lake or river. What a scumbag.
35 posted on 12/31/2003 12:36:48 PM PST by mel
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To: Diogenesis
Charles Pierce writes comedy and political satire, so I would be very suprised if he was serious about that.

36 posted on 12/31/2003 12:39:22 PM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Born Conservative
From 1994:

25 years later, Chappaquiddick remains mystery

Two important events happened 25 years ago this week. Man walked on the moon and Mary Jo Kopechne died near Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts. Ironically, the young woman’s death may well have had a bigger impact on the history of America and the world.

In the late 1960s Senator Edward M. Kennedy (D.-Mass.) could have had his party’s presidential nomination for the asking. With the ghosts of two murdered brothers and the attendant sympathy surrounding him, Kennedy had a reasonable expectation of becoming president.

Then came Chappaquiddick and the probable end of any possibility of Teddy Kennedy moving into the White House. Questions about the death of Mary Jo Kopechne remain unanswered.

She and five other women, all in their 20s and unmarried, attended a party in a rented cottage with Teddy and five other men. All the men, except for the 60-year-old chauffeur, were married, but none of their wives was present.

It was some party. Refreshments for the twelve included three half gallons of vodka, four fifths of scotch, two bottles of rum and two cases of beer. Kennedy denied he was under the influence when he and Miss Kopechne left the party together.

He said he took a wrong turn and drove his car into eight feet of water. He got of the car, returned to the party and brought two other men to the scene of the accident. When they were unable to rescue the girl, he told the others he would call the police.

He did not. Instead, he returned to his motel, spoke to an employee there, began making telephone calls to associates and went to sleep. All that time Mary Jo Kopechne remained in the car.

Possibly she could have been saved. The captain of the Edgartown, Massachusetts scuba team believes she may have stayed alive in an air pocket for several hours.

The next morning the car and the girl’s body were found. When Kennedy finally completed an accident report, he didn’t even know her name, referring to her simply as “Miss Mary ___.”

There was a conflict on what time the accident had occurred. A sheriff said he had seen Kennedy’s car hours after Kennedy said the accident occurred. The senator said he based his estimate on the clock of the rented car he was driving. When it was determined the car didn’t have a clock, Kennedy changed his story.

A grand jury investigated, but the results were already decided. Said the district attorney, “I feel sorry for him (Kennedy). What’s all this business about a conflicting statement? That’s nothing! Never mind the press. Never mind being president. Let’s save him.”

Senator Kennedy didn’t want the girl’s body exhumed for an autopsy. Fortunately for him, neither did the judge responsible for making the decision. Described as a “party-line Democrat of limited judicial gifts,” the judge maintained a bust of President Kennedy on display in his chambers.

The jury foreman later complained, “Things might have been different,” if the grand jury had been allowed access to necessary information, “but we couldn’t get our hands on it.”

Another member of the grand jury admitted, “We were dupes and boobs and let ourselves be manipulated. Nobody ever briefed us properly about what we could do.” Bragged the district attorney later, “There’s no question in my mind that the grand jury would have brought an indictment against Ted Kennedy for manslaughter, if I had given them the case.”

The senator gave a televised speech in which he denied any wrongdoing. The speech was so full of contradictions from what was already known that its author, Ted Sorensen tried to distance himself: “To the best of my knowledge there are no misstatements of facts.”

Attorney Melvin Belli was on target when he said, “The irony is, the public’s impression that the JFK autopsy was unsatisfactory, and now Teddy Kennedy’s female companion gets none. The Kennedy family is hiding the actions of those two days. They’ve gone around parading themselves as sponsors of the little people and yet that little person in the back seat of a car goes unexamined to the grave.”

The people of Massachusetts continue to keep Kennedy in the Senate, where he has long been a liberal pinup boy. As a member of the Judiciary Committee he’s allowed to pass judgment on lesser mortals like Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas.

The truth of what happened at Chappaquiddick 25 years ago will never be known. It died with Mary Jo Kopechne.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

37 posted on 12/31/2003 12:47:19 PM PST by mikeb704
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To: scotiamor
Good point. Maybe they should have added that to his obituary. But then, the Kopechnes must have been Democrats, and they live in Kennedyland where everyone, apparently, is under the thumb of fat Teddy.
38 posted on 12/31/2003 12:59:46 PM PST by ZULU
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To: IGOTMINE; JohnHuang2
Mary Jo did not die in vain. Were it not for her death, Teddy K may well have become president.

If your comment isn't the quote of the day, I can't wait to see what is.

39 posted on 12/31/2003 1:09:12 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; nopardons
Excellent post. I've not seen that illustration before. Thanks for posting it.

ETOM: take a look at #26.
40 posted on 12/31/2003 1:11:36 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: IncPen; Nailbiter
Ping for #26 and #37...
41 posted on 12/31/2003 2:23:27 PM PST by BartMan1
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To: LisaMalia
"If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.” – Charles Pierce, January 5, Boston Globe Magazine

If he hadn't killed her, he would have really taken good care of her....and just think of lives of misery we are saving these babies by aborting them....and have mercy on the poor ORPHAN Menendez brothers.

Sick!

It's amazing to me the contorted(and I mean at right angles to reality) positions that liberals will take to protect their precious ideology and heroes.
42 posted on 12/31/2003 3:20:40 PM PST by OSHA (The Constitution is a very small box made to keep the government in. It sure is crowded in here!)
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To: IGOTMINE
Mary Jo did not die in vain. Were it not for her death, Teddy K may well have become president.

As you say, he saved us from a president who would have been even more imcompetent than Jimmy Carter and probably would have kept Reagan from the presidency.

43 posted on 12/31/2003 3:23:10 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: OSHA
Like you I find it hard to believe. They have no shame, do they?
44 posted on 12/31/2003 3:26:34 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: OSHA
Unfortunately yes. I think it is the best quote of 2003!
45 posted on 12/31/2003 3:31:59 PM PST by Temple Owl
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To: onyx
I think there should be a Mary Jo Kopechne Day. She should be honored for saving America from another Kennedy.
46 posted on 12/31/2003 3:34:22 PM PST by Temple Owl
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To: Born Conservative
Salt of the earth who has his heart torn out by an idiot Senator.
47 posted on 12/31/2003 3:35:46 PM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Temple Owl
I think there should be a Mary Jo Kopechne Day. She should be honored for saving America from another Kennedy.

From the quote here:

If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.” – Charles Pierce, January 5, Boston Globe Magazine

it looks like January 5, was her date of birth. Do a thread to her on the 5th; we'll all gleefully post on it. Good idea.

48 posted on 12/31/2003 3:50:17 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Born Conservative
Why no mention of Teddy? Can you imagine that that would be the case if Old Teddy were a Republican?
49 posted on 12/31/2003 3:55:10 PM PST by faithincowboys ( Zell Miller is the only DC Democrat not commiting treason.)
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To: mikeb704
Wow, there were a lot of details in there that I was not aware of, and even though I was only 13 at that point, I kept a good eye on the news (I could give you the full names of each astronaut on the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo flights that had taken place).

The difference today is the Internet. Even Vince Foster's death was pre-Internet, as far as a sizable minority of Americans having access. And we did get an investigation by Kenneth Starr, if the Kennedys had a whitewashed one like Fosters, it would have cost them a lot more money than the Koepechne case did.

50 posted on 12/31/2003 4:18:23 PM PST by hunter112
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