Skip to comments.How Free is Free Republic
Posted on 12/31/2003 12:12:28 PM PST by visagoth
I didn't find this posted here on FR - so here we go.....
||How Free is Free Republic?
Mon Dec 29th, 2003 at 09:53:55 PM EST
Free Republic is an online story and discussion site similar to Kuro5hin.org, but with an explicitly conservative bias. The site proclaims itself to be "an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web." Intrigued, I proceeded to offer some comments to stories there, addressing some factual errors and dissenting with some conservative views. The result was a quick lesson in the right-wing view of free expression. The experiment left an open question - where do you go on the web to engage conservatives in open debate? Where is the right-wing version of k5?
One article on the Free Republic site entitled "Dean Finally Shoots Self Somewhere Other Than Own Foot" attacks Howard Dean for his statement that "The capture of Saddam has not made America safer". The poster of the article goes on to claim, "If any of the Left is paying attention, Dean has just officially proven the he is DEFINITELY clueless when it comes to foreign policy. Another in a long line of RATS that just doesn't get it".
A comment posted to another Free Republic story, "Howard Dean: The Mayor of Milwaukee", in an attempt to belittle Howard Dean's fiscal record claimed that the budget of one county in Illinois was larger than the budget of the state of Vermont. It claimed the budget of the County of DuPage, near Chicago, to be $1.6 billion, and that the budget for the entire state of Vermont was $73 million. After a quick google search, I found this assertion to be incorrect. The reply I posted 'The "$73 million" figure you quote is for the Vermont Municipal Employees' Retirement System, not the entire Vermont budget. Vermont's budget calls for 1.8 billion in state spending with another billion in federal spending', was removed within a few minutes.
The Free Republic claims in its help section that, "While Free Republic is not edited or censored, it does reserve the right to remove any postings that are considered inappropriate. Examples of inappropriate posts are those that are off-subject or contain advertising, pornography, obscene material, racist material, Nazi (or other hate group) material, materials promoting violence, threats or illegal acts, etc". It would be interesting to know under which category my replies were considered to fall.
"The only meaningful difference is between those who believe in the original intent interpretation of the Constitution and those who do not. Those who believe in the Constitution believe in individual liberty. Those who ignore or rewrite the Constitution do not believe in individual liberty. This is the only difference which matters. "
Within minutes, the post was removed by a moderator. In addition, after this third reply, my ability to post comments on the site was revoked.
I am the one who posted this same thing yesterday, because a link to the article on the site was prominently displayed at freshmeat.net, which is (supposedly) a non-political site that shows the latest releases of open source software. I thought we might add our two cents to their left wing rants.
My intention was not to promote any left wing site either, although I did get accused once of doing that on the thread - which both made me laugh and got me a little ticked.
It made me laugh because anyone who knows me would never associate me with anything close to the left (or even the "center").
It got me ticked because you can call me anything you want, but if you label me as anything other than conservative, I'm going to get ticked.
Guns Before Butter.
What's 'clean' about pulling a response where someone puts the correct figure for Vermont's budget when someone posts in error? I don't get it.
We get plenty of liberal brainwashing on the news... Thanks for your dedication to maintaining the focus of FR as a conservative meeting place.
Jim can correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my impression that new trolls are often banned in some manner that automatically deletes ALL their replies, not just ones that are out of line (quicker than having to look through every post they made).
We defend the right of all, including leftists, to free speech. But that doesn't mean we have to, or choose to, welcome such speech here.
Didn't say that was clean. My response to Jim was regarding his policy of pulling the crap posted here by the usual suspects (trolls). If I want to read DU crap then I'll slum over at the DU.
Thanks. I think a few people are still missing the part where I typed:
My intention in posting the thread was not to 'promote a left wing website', but to give others a heads up on the discussion regarding trying to 'troll' FR.
Have a great New Year!
I don't know. How much are you paying for access ?
Jim bought Barbra's house? Man, I hope he had it fumigated.
So, like what is your point dude?
Yes it is. It's free from trolls.
I will try to be as polite as possible here... but please read Post 9
And because you asked, $25 a year.
Amen to that! Now if ya want to debate libations, that's another story. I'm drinking a beer followed by another beer, imported of course, anybody want to debate about that? ;-)
Hey... It's New Year's Eve. :-\
The only problem with being at the head of the pack is everyone gets to take a shot at your rear.
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