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To: Jim Robinson
I've posted quite a few things that are not necessarily within the FR scope, and have never even been warned. However, I've also been around here for a while, and it seems to me that long-time posters get more leeway. I can't think of any forum where you can go in and start throwing bombs immediately, and not be banned. Sometimes I disagree with a thread being pulled, but I've noticed that sites that don't have any active moderation degrade into the lamest fringe elements that have little to do but post all day. There are a pretty big contingent of anarchists who believe in no government who would love to take over FR, because of the wide exposure. LibertyForum, it seems to me, is having terrible problems keeping the site sane.

The scope of FR allows a pretty wide range of debate. If I were to characterize it, though, I'd say it's closer to libertarian-anarchist than conservative. I've also noticed that liberals are allowed to post, so long as they maintain a certain level of civility, and don't try to make the entire forum a blog for the communists. I also suspect that many of the people who are banned are people who have been banned multiple times, as determinable from their IP address (although I have no access to this information). Whenever someone comes in and on their first day posting prints a Mother Earth News indictment of capitalism and uses the term "bushbots" and "WOD'ers", I pretty well suspect that this is their third or fourth screen name.

I think the quickest way to destroy freedom is to abuse it. The statement frequently made is that the only way to protect freedom of speech is to defend that speech which is most indefensible. This is garbage. It is similar to saying that defending the "right to drive a car" is only protected when we defend the most irresponsible driving. Also, FR sends no one to jail for printing their beliefs. However, it is not obligated to give anyone a podium. The arguments made in the article are silly. It implies that the keepers of this forum are not moral agents who have any authority to run the forum as they see fit. To the writer of the article: Start your own forum. Run it without any rules. Watch the nutballs show up. Give equal time to people that write "blah, blah, blah" or post gibberish until it becomes impossible to follow a thread because of the incoherence injected by people who want to destroy debate, not create it.

42 posted on 12/31/2003 12:50:25 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Richard Kimball
I've posted quite a few things that are not necessarily within the FR scope, and have never even been warned. However, I've also been around here for a while, and it seems to me that long-time posters get more leeway. I can't think of any forum where you can go in and start throwing bombs immediately, and not be banned.

Quite right. On a lot of discussion sites, mailing lists in particular, newbies are automatically put on probationary status the moment they register, and all their posts must be approved by a moderator before anyone can read them. Only when they are deemed to be nondisruptive are they taken off probation.

89 posted on 12/31/2003 2:35:04 PM PST by Dont Mention the War
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To: Richard Kimball
"The scope of FR allows a pretty wide range of debate. If I were to characterize it, though, I'd say it's closer to libertarian-anarchist than conservative."

I would disagree. Its just that the word "conservative" has been redefined. cf: CPAC.

95 posted on 12/31/2003 2:55:22 PM PST by sauropod (Excellence in Shameless Self-Promotion)
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To: Richard Kimball
Well said, RK.

105 posted on 12/31/2003 5:02:12 PM PST by kitkat (Purr, purr)
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To: Richard Kimball
To the writer of the article: Start your own forum. Run it without any rules. Watch the nutballs show up. Give equal time to people that write "blah, blah, blah" or post gibberish until it becomes impossible to follow a thread because of the incoherence injected by people who want to destroy debate, not create it.

Can I get an "AMEN"? You go, Richard! Don't forget those who tell the same lie so many times that they come to believe it as the truth.
121 posted on 01/01/2004 7:49:10 AM PST by Just Lori (We're all in this together.)
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