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Chicago topped nation in 2003 homicides [America's murder capital..]
NJ.COM ^

Posted on 01/01/2004 4:52:57 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Edited on 07/06/2004 6:39:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

CHICAGO (AP) Despite a sharp drop in homicides, Chicago has regained a title it didn't want: America's murder capital.

The city finished 2003 with 599 homicides, police said Thursday. That was down from 648 a year earlier and the first time since 1967 that the total dipped below 600.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicago; murdercapital; murderrate
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1 posted on 01/01/2004 4:52:58 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
New York, with about three times the population, ended the year with 596 homicides

When Dinkins was mayor, New York murders topped 2000.

I remember when he kicked off his campaign with a speech to inmates at Riker's Island.

His constituency was incarcerated in prison.

That was when New York was mad as in "mad dog"!

2 posted on 01/01/2004 4:58:48 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Yeah, I'm waiting with baited breath for the nightly reports going "Two more murders in Chicago today, making the annual total 187 so far, or 12,367 since Democrats have held a monopoly on the Mayor's office. </ sarcasm>
3 posted on 01/01/2004 4:59:36 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: Sub-Driver
Raw numbers are statistically irrelevant. Murders per capita is a better statistic to use. Either the AP reporter is ignorant, or has an agenda.
4 posted on 01/01/2004 4:59:50 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Sub-Driver
"Los Angeles, which had the most murders in 2002 at 658, wound up 2003 with an estimated total just under 500."

Go 3 Strikes!
5 posted on 01/01/2004 5:00:30 PM PST by LA Conservative (evil triumphs when good men do nothing)
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To: PAR35
Puerto Rico ended 2003 with a total of 779. Ugh!
6 posted on 01/01/2004 5:00:49 PM PST by HelgaHawk
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To: Sub-Driver
Since Mayor Dummy has planted so many nice flowers and put up so many nice-looking wrought-iron fences, I think we should give him a pass on this.
7 posted on 01/01/2004 5:00:56 PM PST by Prince Charles
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To: Vigilanteman
How do the Chicago numbers compare to Baghdad? I understand a lot of people there are armed and ready to use weapons....
8 posted on 01/01/2004 5:02:45 PM PST by alloysteel
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To: Vigilanteman
But this can't be! Chicago is supposed to be a safe haven, since guns are virtually banned.
9 posted on 01/01/2004 5:03:52 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: Sub-Driver
Chicago's gun control laws are very effective at keeping guns out of the hands of law abiding people while doing nothing to keep them out of the hands of street gangs.

I'll bet Chicago doesn't want to reveal the racial/ethnic breakdown of the victims and perpetrators. That would really expose their agenda.

10 posted on 01/01/2004 5:04:43 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Sub-Driver
Boston had the lowest in decades this year- only 41. But "assaults" (bar fights) have risen sharpley (I blame the smoking ban in bars.) Far cry form the height of the crack years in the mid and late 80's when Boston had 2 to 3 hundred murders a year.
11 posted on 01/01/2004 5:08:51 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Sub-Driver
Have yet to see the statistics broken down by race.
12 posted on 01/01/2004 5:10:15 PM PST by Mark was here (My fan club: "Go abuse some family member, as I'm sure is your practice." - Principled)
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To: Myrddin
Maybe we need to pull out of Chicago. It's a damn quagmire!
13 posted on 01/01/2004 5:11:19 PM PST by Crow357
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To: alloysteel
I heard on the radio that Baghdad had fewer murders in October 2003 than NY City (low 50s vs. mid-50s).
14 posted on 01/01/2004 5:14:12 PM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: Sub-Driver; *bang_list
Happy New Year
15 posted on 01/01/2004 5:14:16 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Sub-Driver
Wait you can't have pistols in Chicago. You cna't even buy ammo without a FOID! This is a mistake!
16 posted on 01/01/2004 5:15:31 PM PST by Nov3
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To: PAR35
Good point. Chicago's results are horrible, but on a per capita basis Detroit's 365 for their roughly 800,000 population (may be more like 700,000 at the rate people are continuing to stream out of the city) is more than double Chicago's 599 for 3.2 mil or so (Chicago's pop has been increasing a little).
17 posted on 01/01/2004 5:17:47 PM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: Sub-Driver
Los Angeles, which had the most murders in 2002 at 658, wound up 2003 with an estimated total just under 500.

We just haven't found all the bodies yet. Give us a few more days.

18 posted on 01/01/2004 5:26:07 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Sub-Driver
Interesting that more Americans were killed in Chicago in 2003 than were soldiers killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined. Wonder if Peter Jennings will be giving us a nightly update with a smirk on his face?
19 posted on 01/01/2004 5:29:17 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Peter's an annoyance, ain't he? I just click right on by when I see his face.
20 posted on 01/01/2004 5:31:22 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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