Flu Vaccine a Failure 2003!

center for disease control | 12/15/03 | ABC news

[Myrddin]

My wife and I both got flu shots in early November. We also both went on the Atkins diet on November 14th. We've been around lots of people sick with the flu and I've made two cross country airline trips. No flu yet.

I heard an interesting theory offered a few weeks back. The theory is that people increase their intake of sweets beginning around Halloween and continuing through the New Year's celebrations. The extra load of sugar kicks up your insulin levels and trashes your immune system. That leaves you wide open for a variety of infections.

The decision to go with Atkins in mid-November had nothing to do with this theory. We are both overweight and decided it was time to get serious about ditching the weight. It's working fine. If we accidentally helped our resistance to flu at the same time, I'm doubly blessed this year.

My father did not get the flu shot this year. Mom did. Dad was an insulin dependent diabetic. He fixed a daily breakfast for himself and my mom. It consisted of a bowl of sliced fruit, a bowl of cold cereal with milk, a glass of orange or cranberry juice, coffee, donuts and sometimes some Hershey's miniature chocolates. Massive carb overload. This eating habit was stealing his eyesight and making both of them fat.

Dad apparently contracted the flu just before Thanksgiving. By the Saturday after Thanksgiving, he was hospitalized with pneumonia. He was put on a ventilator a week after Thanksgiving as he could no longer maintain adequate oxygen saturation on his own. His condition deteriorated steadily until Dec 17th. The doctors admitted his heart, lungs, kidneys, liver and brain were damaged by the low oxygen saturation. There was nothing left to do except gently pulling the life support and letting him go.

[Stentor]

...in the case of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (mad cow disease)."

Malarky.

You have a point about the excerpt.

[Mamzelle]

Even a healthy immune system, used to being exposed to germs, can find itself occasionally weakened by stress, etc. Not to mention that some really wicked germs hide out in hospitals.

But, flu vaccination is voluntary for almost everyone.

[Squantos]

Thanks for the info....bought some this PM and like it. Doesn't leave yer paws greasy or smelly. Their web site and your recommendation sold me on it. But alwasy a risk taking skin care advice from anyone calling themselves "Barnacle"......... :o)

Just kidding ....Thanks !

Stay Safe !

[Barnacle]

LOL Glad to be of service.

[chicagolady]

That's funny ! I get My advise and research from one of the most read MD's on the WEB next to DR. Weil!!

[chicagolady]

or THE PERSON WHO'S READING IT DOESN'T HAVE A CUE!

[ZOTnot]

I know three people personally this year who got the flu and who died. I did not previously take the flu shot, but have done so for two years now. Of the people who died, two were relatively young, and considered to be healthy. Thousands die in this country each year from the flu but we assume they are old and frail. If it costs but $ 15 or so, why not? Why put our families through that just because we happen to be stubborn and think we may be immune?

[chicagolady]

I am a board certified physiciAN.

Really? I hear the leading cause of death id doctors.
Thanks anyway. I have my own doctor who is nationally known and does NOT support thr flu shot!I will listen to him.

So, It looks as if you do not beleive what the Center for DiseaseControl says either. THEY SCREWED UP!

[ZOTnot]

Thank you!

Free Republic should not offer free medical advice from those who are not qualified to do so.

[ZOTnot]

Judging from your 'about' page, and from your angry posts to Dr. Bones McCoy, it doesn't appear to me as if you are doing too much about the Lord's will, or about spiritual discernment, or about spreading truth. But maybe you are receiving Divine guidance from sources other than the God that I worship----who knows?

[chicagolady]

Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US, Causing 250,000 Deaths Every Year


This article in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) is the best article I have ever seen written in the published literature documenting the tragedy of the traditional medical paradigm.

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This information is a followup of the Institute of Medicine report which hit the papers in December of last year, but the data was hard to reference as it was not in peer-reviewed journal. Now it is published in JAMA which is the most widely circulated medical periodical in the world.

The author is Dr. Barbara Starfield of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health and she desribes how the US health care system may contribute to poor health.

ALL THESE ARE DEATHS PER YEAR:

12,000 -- unnecessary surgery 8
7,000 -- medication errors in hospitals 9
20,000 -- other errors in hospitals 10
80,000 -- infections in hospitals 10
106,000 -- non-error, negative effects of drugs 2
These total to 250,000 deaths per year from iatrogenic causes!!
What does the word iatrogenic mean? This term is defined as induced in a patient by a physician's activity, manner, or therapy. Used especially of a complication of treatment.

Dr. Starfield offers several warnings in interpreting these numbers:

First, most of the data are derived from studies in hospitalized patients.
Second, these estimates are for deaths only and do not include negative effects that are associated with disability or discomfort.
Third, the estimates of death due to error are lower than those in the IOM report.1
If the higher estimates are used, the deaths due to iatrogenic causes would range from 230,000 to 284,000. In any case, 225,000 deaths per year constitutes the third leading cause of death in the United States, after deaths from heart disease and cancer. Even if these figures are overestimated, there is a wide margin between these numbers of deaths and the next leading cause of death (cerebrovascular disease).

Another analysis concluded that between 4% and 18% of consecutive patients experience negative effects in outpatient settings,with:

116 million extra physician visits
77 million extra prescriptions
17 million emergency department visits
8 million hospitalizations
3 million long-term admissions
199,000 additional deaths
$77 billion in extra costs
The high cost of the health care system is considered to be a deficit, but seems to be tolerated under the assumption that better health results from more expensive care.

However, evidence from a few studies indicates that as many as 20% to 30% of patients receive inappropriate care.

An estimated 44,000 to 98,000 among them die each year as a result of medical errors.2

This might be tolerated if it resulted in better health, but does it? Of 13 countries in a recent comparison,3,4 the United States ranks an average of 12th (second from the bottom) for 16 available health indicators. More specifically, the ranking of the US on several indicators was:

13th (last) for low-birth-weight percentages
13th for neonatal mortality and infant mortality overall 14
11th for postneonatal mortality
13th for years of potential life lost (excluding external causes)
11th for life expectancy at 1 year for females, 12th for males
10th for life expectancy at 15 years for females, 12th for males
10th for life expectancy at 40 years for females, 9th for males
7th for life expectancy at 65 years for females, 7th for males
3rd for life expectancy at 80 years for females, 3rd for males
10th for age-adjusted mortality
The poor performance of the US was recently confirmed by a World Health Organization study, which used different data and ranked the United States as 15th among 25 industrialized countries.


Even at the lower estimate of 225,000 deaths per year, this constitutes the third leading cause of death in the US, following heart disease and cancer.

Among 29 countries, the United States is second only to Japan in the availability of magnetic resonance imaging units and computed tomography scanners per million population. 17
Japan, however, ranks highest on health, whereas the US ranks among the lowest.
It is possible that the high use of technology in Japan is limited to diagnostic technology not matched by high rates of treatment, whereas in the US, high use of diagnostic technology may be linked to more treatment.


Journal American Medical Association 2000 Jul 26;284(4):483-5

[chicagolady]

Judging from your 'about' page
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But maybe you are receiving Divine guidance from sources other than the God that I worship----who knows?

spiritual discernment, I SEE IT IS YOUR SPECIALTY

WE WORSHIP YOU! WE WORSHIP YOU OH GERAT ZOTNOT!!

[ZOTnot]

So whom do you consult when you are sick?

A shaman?

A lawyer from the ACLU?

A witch 'doctor'?

Hillary's Health Security Act?

Herbal remedies?

Witchcraft?

Sorry, I'll take trained and educated physicians myself, despite your obvious biases.

[chicagolady]

Oh Great and Powerful Zotnot, Who loves listening to himself speak, It is past your bedtime and I beleive if thou great one does not get some sleep he will turn into a pumkin.

Sleep now oh Great one. enough of your infinite Wisdom for one night.

[handk]

Ditto for me. I've never had a flu vaccination, and I've only been sick with the flu twice since 1981. The time in 1981 my girlfriend, who was an advocate of natural remedies, told me to just "sweat it out", which I did.

The symptoms came on fast while I was at work, and I had to leave to go home around lunch time. I put on t-shirts, triple socks, double sweat shirt, double sweat pants, and three bed comforters and turned the heater up on the waterbed. On the floor was a gallon of distilled water.

I took no medication of any kind; just sweated and drank water. By 7:00am the next morning I woke up feeling like a million bucks. Seriously. I literally sprang out of bed, shed my sweat-drenched clothes, jumped in the shower and was ready to eat a big breakfast and go to work.

And while I'm on the subject, here's a little info to consider:

"The injections of vaccine, which 83 million Americans received, contain other very dangerous substances, and it is shocking that so many people are buying into the lie that these injections are helping them. If you received a flu shot recently, this is what was injected into your body: ethylene glycol (antifreeze), phenol (carbolic acid), formaldehyde (cancer causing agent), aluminum (causes Alzheimer’s disease and seizures), and among others, thimerosal (mercury-based disinfectant). (17) As a chemist with forty years of experience, I can tell you that the mercury in thimerosol is a residual poison, and thus, it stays in the body and builds as do the compounds of arsenic, another transition metal."

Isn't that special?

[ZOTnot]

Good night. Your empty reply, and your poorly reasoned response do not merit any direct answer from me.......(By the way, I think they spell the word as 'pum P kin').

Good health to you, in the meantime...Hope you don't need any doctor in the near future. Some might refuse to treat you for the flu with the attitude you seem to have taken.

God Bless.

[chicagolady]

Oh Great One No one can come close to your greatness and Infinite Wisdom.

You are to be Worshiped for your never ending great Judgement of everyone and everthing and every thought thoought that comes from the mouth of us lowly Human beings.

There is none like you.

Hopefully one day you can have discussion human being to the Great one with out your Super Duper grandious ego getting in the way.

[RJCogburn]

THE PERSON WHO'S READING IT DOESN'T HAVE A CUE!

This is not a pool game.