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** ACTION ALERT ** "WEDDING" Annoucement in St. Pete Times
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/index.html?ts=1073305505 ^ | 04 January 2004 | St. Pete Times

Posted on 01/05/2004 4:31:27 AM PST by davidosborne

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They said this would be a "local" publishing only.. I read this in the paper today in Tallahassee !!

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Times publishes first same-sex civil union announcement:[SOUTH PINELLAS Edition] St. Petersburg Times. St. Petersburg, Fla.: Jan 4, 2004. pg. 1.B Full Text (313 words) Copyright Times Publishing Co. Jan 4, 2004

The St. Petersburg Times is publishing an item today in some local editions about two Largo residents who traveled to Canada in October for a wedding ceremony.

What makes this notable is that the two residents are men.

This marks the first time that an announcement about a same-sex civil union has reached our threshold for publication, and that is this: The Times will publish the announcement, provided that the couple are local residents and that they had the ceremony in a jurisdiction that recognizes either their civil or religious union. Canada and Vermont fall into that category, and soon Massachusetts will.

While this event might seem to be tied to the recent Massachusetts court ruling involving gay marriage, it has in fact been policy at the Times for some time.

The Times policy is to publish free announcements about marriages (or now, civil unions) that are officially sanctioned by a government. We realized that as other states and Canada changed their laws to include same-sex couples, we would be asked to publish announcements about their ceremonies, too.

In early December, such an announcement arrived, complete with photo and a marriage license number. Today that announcement appears in our Weddings feature in the editions that circulate where the men live.

The Times does not publish announcements for same-sex commitment ceremonies that are held in Florida or other places where there are no legal parameters or registration for such unions. We do, however, offer people an opportunity to buy a paid announcement through our "Celebrations" feature.

We recognize that many people hold strong feelings and beliefs on both sides of this issue. And this publication will no doubt provoke criticism that we have gone too far - or not far enough. If you'd like to contact us, call Anne Glover, Senior Editor/ Readership, at 727/893-8562 or send an e-mail to glover@sptimes.com.

- The Editors

1 posted on 01/05/2004 4:31:28 AM PST by davidosborne
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3 posted on 01/05/2004 4:32:35 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne
"How does a guy look at another guy's H A I R Y A $ $ ... and find love, HUH? HOW DOES THAT WORK?"

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4 posted on 01/05/2004 4:36:41 AM PST by martin_fierro (Apocalypso!)
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To: davidosborne
This crap is going on about 7 miles from me, I live on Grand Island and can see N.F. Canada..

Sickening....
5 posted on 01/05/2004 4:38:12 AM PST by The Mayor (Those who love and serve God on earth will feel at home in heaven.)
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To: davidosborne
Yawn. Why give so much unmerited attention to something so insignificant?
6 posted on 01/05/2004 4:38:54 AM PST by tdadams
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WEDDINGS Series: WEDDINGS:[STATE Edition] St. Petersburg Times. St. Petersburg, Fla.: Jan 4, 2004. pg. 16 Full Text (1016 words) Copyright Times Publishing Co. Jan 4, 2004

Maxie-Bryant

Kim Bryant and Vernon Maxie were married Nov. 8, 2003, at New Zion Missionary Baptist Church in Clearwater.

The bride is the daughter of Ruth Bryant of Clearwater and Harry Bryant of Lakeland. The bridegroom is the son of Lillie and Adell Maxie of Albany, Ga.

The bride is a graduate of Clearwater High School. She is a health care provider.

The bridegroom is a graduate of Dougherty Comprehensive High School (Ga.) and Community College of the Air Force. He served in the Air Force and is a manager for Castle Dental Center of Florida Inc.

They live in Clearwater.

Zimmer-Wolfe

Julie Michele Wolfe and Jonathan Stanley Zimmer were married Sept. 6, 2003, in Burlington, Iowa. The bride is the daughter of John and Sherry Wolfe of Burlington. The bridegroom is the son of retired Lt. Col. Leon "Bud" and Jane Zimmer of Clearwater. The bride is a graduate of Wapello High School (Iowa) and Iowa Wesleyan College. She is a registered nurse. The bridegroom is a graduate of Dunedin High School and the United States Military Academy at West Point. He is a captain in the Army. They live in Hohenfels, Germany.

Stulic-Appleyard Elaine Norma Appleyard and Frank Andrew Stulic were married Nov. 8, 2003, at St. Matthew's Catholic Church in Largo. The bride is the daughter of Dr. Frederick L. and Clara L. Appleyard of Seminole. The bridegroom is the son of Anna B. Stulic and Steve J. Stulic Sr., both of Long Island, N.Y. The bride is a graduate of Seminole High School and Florida State University. She is a legal assistant for Taylor Woodrow Communities. The bridegroom is a graduate of Sayville High School (N.Y.) and Polytechnic University Long Island campus. He is a security consultant for Tribridge Inc. They live in Seminole.

Clover-Kiger Amanda Kiger and Kyle Clover were married Nov. 29, 2003, in Indian Rocks Beach. The bride is the daughter of Wayne and Michele Kiger of Seminole. The bridegroom is the son of Corinne Clover of Naples and Jeff DuMuochele of Clearwater. The bride is a graduate of Seminole High School. She attends St. Petersburg College. The bridegroom is a graduate of Largo High School. He attends SPC and is employed by Circuit City. They live in Seminole.

King-Kazaleh Tanya Kazaleh and Matthew King were married July 5, 2003, in Tarpon Springs. The bride is the daughter of Sam and Lily Kazaleh of Palm Harbor. The bridegroom is the son of Candace King and Craig King, both of Tampa. The bride is a graduate of Tarpon Springs High School and the University of South Florida. She attends USF toward her master's degree and is a teacher for Tarpon Springs High School. The bridegroom is a graduate of Hillsborough High School, USF and the University of Miami School of Law. He is an attorney/prosecutor for the State of Florida. They live in Tarpon Springs. Mavro-Schuler

Frank Christopher Mavro and John "Michael" Schuler were married Oct. 29, 2003, at Two Hearts Wedding Chapel in Niagara Falls, Canada.

Mavro, above left, is the son of Rosemary and Paul Rogers of Seminole. Schuler is the son of Steve and Linda Schuler of Clearwater.

Mavro is a graduate of Union Hill High School (N.J.). He attends St. Petersburg College.

Schuler is a graduate of Osceola High School. He attends SPC and served in the Army.

They live in Largo.

Kennedy-Lizakowski Miranda Lizakowski and Richard Kennedy were married Nov. 8, 2003, at Christ the King Lutheran Church in Largo. The bride is the daughter of Laura Bergman of Grand Forks, N.D. The bridegroom is the son of Wayne and Patricia Kennedy of Largo. The bride is a graduate of Community High School (N.D.). She is employed by Target Corp. The bridegroom is a graduate of Seminole High School and the University of South Florida. He served in the Air Force and is employed by Sherwin Williams Paint Co. They live in Clearwater.

Hoffman-Reed Larisa Reed and Nicolai Hoffman were married Sept. 13, 2003, in Poulsbo, Wash. The bride is the daughter of David and Kathy Reed of Olalla, Wash. The bridegroom is the son of Anja and Michael McConnor of St. Petersburg and the late Ted Hoffman. The bride is a graduate of South Kitsap High School (Wash.) and the University of Miami. She is a physical therapist for Children's Therapies. The bridegroom is a graduate of St. Petersburg High School and the University of Florida. He is employed by Agilis Engineering Inc. They live in Boca Raton.

Young-Dohlmar Lindsay Ann Dohlmar and Thomas Allan Young were married Aug. 21, 2003, in St. Petersburg. The bride is the daughter of Nancy Dohlmar and Raymon Lorenzo and Kenneth Dohlmar, all of St. Petersburg. The bridegroom is the son of Stephanie and Ed Polinsky and Roger Young, all of St. Petersburg. The bride is a graduate of Gibbs High School. The bridegroom is a graduate of Gibbs High School and serves in the Navy. They live in Lake Bluff, Ill.

Lemieux-Buckland Sarah Buckland and Randy Lemieux were married Sept. 20, 2003, in Boca Grande. The bride is the daughter of Bob and Kathy Buckland of Englewood. The bridegroom is the son of Guy and Darlene Lemieux of St. Petersburg. The bride is employed by Colours Inc. The bridegroom served in the Marine Corps and is vice president of Colours Inc. They live in Englewood.

Wedding forms may be obtained by calling Anna Elsenpeter at 1- 800-333-7505, ext. 8735. Completed forms must be returned to Anna Elsenpeter, c/o St. Petersburg Times, P.O. Box 1121, St. Petersburg, FL 33731 no later than six months after the date of the wedding. Photos to accompany the announcements are welcome, and can be returned with a self-addressed stamped envelope.

[Illustration] Caption: Kim Bryant and Vernon Maxie; Julie Michele Wolfe and Jonathan Stanley Zimmer; Elaine Norma Appleyard and Frank Andrew Stulic; Amanda Kiger and Kyle Clover; Tanya Kazaleh and Matthew King; Frank Christopher Mavro and John "Michael" Schuler;; Miranda Lizakowski and Richard Kennedy; Larisa Reed and Nicolai Hoffman; Lindsay Ann Dohlmar and Thomas Allan Young; Sarah Buckland and Randy Lemieux; Photo: PHOTO, (10)

7 posted on 01/05/2004 4:39:44 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: tdadams
That is that attitude that will keep this stuff "legitimate" I for one am strongly OPPOSED to this legitimizing of so called "gay marriage".... we have crossed the line in sociiety when we "advertise" this smack dab in the middle of REAL marriages... it is a HUGE leap in the gay agenda.... We MUST pass a Constitutional Ammendment and stop this movement of euating same-sex unions to marriage...... You don't get it do you?
8 posted on 01/05/2004 4:43:26 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

"She" was knocked up, due any day.

They had to get married, the baby needed a name.


Mavro-Schuler, Jr.

9 posted on 01/05/2004 4:43:31 AM PST by putupon ("Borders? We don't need no steenkin' borders."-Presidente Jorge Dubya del Rino Arbusto)
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To: All
Do you think it was an "accident" that it was conviently placed in the MIDDLE on not on a separate page under political news/opinion... this is an intentional attack on those of us in this country who OPPOSE same-sex marriage.... which happens to be the MAJORITY of us... this is a situation where the MAJORITY must step up to plate and oppose this garbage....

David C. Osborne

10 posted on 01/05/2004 4:46:38 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne
Oh, I get it, alright. I get that there are some people who simply feel some kind of authority to compel the lives of others, if not by persuasion then by force of law.

Frankly, I have more respect for a free country, where people can be who they are, and a free press, which can publish whatever announcements they feel appropriate. Maybe it's you who don't get it.

11 posted on 01/05/2004 4:50:01 AM PST by tdadams
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To: davidosborne
Good morning, David. How's it going?
12 posted on 01/05/2004 4:50:44 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: davidosborne
It's God vs Soddom & Ghomorrah for the title....
the real sodomite agenda is to goad God into destroying America
they hate the real America and what the founders built
Liberty and License are diametrically opposed forces
13 posted on 01/05/2004 5:15:20 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: martin_fierro
You have to have been born gay to understand this.
14 posted on 01/05/2004 5:17:43 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Frank Christopher Mavro and John "Michael" Schuler were married Oct. 29, 2003, at Two Hearts Wedding Chapel in Niagara Falls, Canada.

[blink-blink!]

Uh.......

Right.

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

15 posted on 01/05/2004 5:30:48 AM PST by mhking (My brother and I had never seen The Belt........but we had heard about it....)
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To: mhking
I want to know . . .

WHO owns that newspaper? Certain chains have been pushing for same-sex announcements, and it first started with KnightRidder from San Jose, CA.
16 posted on 01/05/2004 5:32:52 AM PST by Bobby Chang
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To: davidosborne
Where was it in the Tallahassee Democrat?
17 posted on 01/05/2004 5:39:30 AM PST by EllaMinnow (I miss Chancellor Palpatine. Heck, I even miss Illbay.)
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To: tdadams
Frankly, I have more respect for a free country, where people can be who they are, and a free press, which can publish whatever announcements they feel appropriate. Maybe it's you who don't get it.

A free country still has laws. I am against same sex unions being called marriages. I am against more than two entering into marriage as practiced in some religions.

The reasons I'm against these practices being called marriage is more societal than religious, although our society has roots in the Judaeo-Christian religion.

The laws are not fair in many ways. A heterosexual couple that is living together is not allowed insurance that a homosexual couple is given just for saying they are a couple. Yet, you could be taking care of a person not related to you because you are good friends and not be able to use your insurance for someone in your household unless you are gay.

If a person can prove that they are taking care and responsible for another unrelated person, then why can't they use insurance for the other person. But the way it is set up, any so called "gay couple" can use the insurance, but two buddies that are not "gay" cannot help each other.

Two gays may be a couple, but it is not a marriage and there is no reason it cannot be listed in the newspapers as a civil union and not as a marriage.

This newspaper is trying to make news, not report the news.

18 posted on 01/05/2004 5:46:33 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: tdadams; 2sheep; davidosborne
A free country without morals, decency, and self-control isn't a free country, it's a lawless hellhole not fit for civilized habitation. A free people must also be a moral people, or the system just doesn't work.

I wonder if weapons of self-defense were outlawed in Sodom, which may explain why the freaks saw fit to beat at Lot's door for fresh meat.

Biff Tannen's alternative 1985 was probably a serene paradise compared to where the US is going.
19 posted on 01/05/2004 5:51:43 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Your conjecture is that a nation which permits the publishing of same-sex civil union announcements is destined to become a lawless hellhole? Somehow I think you're being a tad dramatic.

This is why I put no merit on speculation. Anyone can play "what if" but we shouldn't base our laws on it.

20 posted on 01/05/2004 6:03:54 AM PST by tdadams
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To: davidosborne
And this marriage will last considerably longer than Britney Spears's.
21 posted on 01/05/2004 6:19:50 AM PST by DonQ
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Just like in the days of Noah...

Happy New Year, Thinkin' Gal...I was sorry to hear about our friend, but, I know he is with peace in that place of glory now.

22 posted on 01/05/2004 6:46:07 AM PST by hope
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To: tdadams

The failure to uphold public morality is not insignificant, and neither are its repercussions.

23 posted on 01/05/2004 6:49:23 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: mhking
"Niiiiiiiiiii-agra Falls ... slowly we turn ... step by step."
24 posted on 01/05/2004 7:25:01 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: davidosborne
What is the big desire for same sex marriage? Is it so that they won't be "living in sin" unmarried in the eyes of God and their families?

As if "marriage" makes it okay?

25 posted on 01/05/2004 8:30:33 AM PST by weegee
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To: davidosborne

26 posted on 01/05/2004 8:41:54 AM PST by SquirrelKing
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To: davidosborne
There are valid reasons why most folks and modern society itself, continue to condemn homosexuality. Marriage is meant for man and woman. If homosexuals want to be joined in a civil union, let`em get a lawyer to draw up a legal contract. Continuing to advance the idea of homosexual marriage will only weaken another bedrock principle of society and lead to further moral degradation. Looks like the militant gay agenda marches on.
27 posted on 01/05/2004 9:07:23 AM PST by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: DooDahhhh
You have to have been born gay to understand this.

Yeah, riiiight.

28 posted on 01/05/2004 9:35:48 AM PST by martin_fierro (Apocalypso!)
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To: tdadams; hope; 2sheep
What conjecture? The US *has* become Sodom, a lawless, amoral, indecent society completely lacking in self control. Some places just appear to be more civilized and decent than others - for the moment - but the core is nonetheless decayed, and the stench has reached to heaven.

All manner of perversion is tolerated, and where wickedness is more brazen, these behaviours are openly celebrated. Freedom to act in a depraved manner is not freedom, it is slavery of the soul to Satan. For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. The writing is on the wall. For those who see it, flee before it's too late. Time is short.

Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, PRIDE!, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

Helllllo!

29 posted on 01/05/2004 9:54:01 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: davidosborne; little jeremiah; EdReform; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; ...
Frank Christopher Mavro and John "Michael" Schuler

Frank and John?

30 posted on 01/05/2004 9:55:38 AM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas, Jesus is the Reason for the Season, Keep Christ in CHRISTmas and the X's out of it.)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
For those who see it, flee before it's too late.

"Flee" where? And from where?

31 posted on 01/05/2004 9:59:57 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher ("... and twenty thousand bucks to complete my robot. My GIRL robot.")
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To: Coleus
Frank and John?

Frankie an' Johnny was sweethearts
Lord, Lord, how they did love
Swore t' be true to each other
True as th stars above
He was her man, but he done her him wrong

32 posted on 01/05/2004 10:26:37 AM PST by Cagey
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To: Johnny_Cipher
"Flee" where? And from where?

I don't know if your post is serious or designed to mock. It does not matter. I will answer it in good faith:

As the Lord leads from where you are at. Ask Him. Hear and then obey His voice. First order, though, is that for whatever you do or did that you know is/was wrong, repent. God cannot be mocked: He knows who is sincere and who isn't.

33 posted on 01/05/2004 10:29:33 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal
I don't know if your post is serious or designed to mock.

No, it was quite serious. You recommended in your post that people should "flee"; I merely asked to where you think we should flee. In every measurable way, America is the greatest country and society that has ever been on the planet. This is as good as it gets.

As the Lord leads from where you are at. Ask Him. Hear and then obey His voice.

I do try, every day.

First order, though, is that for whatever you do or did that you know is/was wrong, repent. God cannot be mocked: He knows who is sincere and who isn't.

Then I guess I'll find out if my efforts to live a life worthy of His teachings were enough in 30 or so years. I also feel that's between me and Him.

Which brings me back to that "flee"-ing thing. I don't have the type of personality that allows me to simply run away from things I disagree with. I have an almost pathological need to try to change things I feel to be wrong, whether through the ballot box, letters to the editor, my purchasing habits, by posting to FreeRepublic, and by whatever legal means are at my disposal.

However, at the same time, I learned to choose my battles carefully and not to expend resources needlessly on things (or people) which can do no harm to me. And, getting overwrought over an announcement in a newspaper seems to me to fall within that category. To put it in a nutshell, there are far greater evils in the world than an announcement in a newspaper about two men who live together, and I prefer to expend my limited resources to combat things that could more directly affect or harm me.

Thank you for your concern.

34 posted on 01/05/2004 10:46:43 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher ("... and twenty thousand bucks to complete my robot. My GIRL robot.")
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To: Cagey
Frank's from Union NJ. Seems pretty soon he could do the same in his home state.
35 posted on 01/05/2004 11:02:43 AM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas, Jesus is the Reason for the Season, Keep Christ in CHRISTmas and the X's out of it.)
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To: davidosborne
The links to the article are no longer working.
Did the paper pull it, or did they change the URL because they were being heavily FReeped?
Do you have a working link?
Enquiring minds want to know.
36 posted on 01/05/2004 11:29:48 AM PST by ppaul
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; scripter; little jeremiah; EdReform
ping.
37 posted on 01/05/2004 11:31:26 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Johnny_Cipher
I wish I could have put it that succintly. Frankly, I don't deal well with some people here, those who seem to see revelatory messages in their alphabet soup.
38 posted on 01/05/2004 11:36:22 AM PST by tdadams
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To: tdadams
"alphabetology"? :)
39 posted on 01/05/2004 11:58:29 AM PST by bonfire
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To: tdadams
Well, shoot. I typed a response to your post but it disappeared. FreeRepublic is apparently having problems. I'll try again later.
40 posted on 01/05/2004 1:33:54 PM PST by Johnny_Cipher ("... and twenty thousand bucks to complete my robot. My GIRL robot.")
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping - Let me know if you want on or off this Ping List.

Start rolling up your sleeves, folks. Those who sit out the war lose.
41 posted on 01/05/2004 1:45:02 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: FR_addict
This newspaper is trying to make news, not report the news.

Very good point. Could be said about almost every newspaper every day. But about the "gay" agenda in particular.

42 posted on 01/05/2004 1:47:00 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: martin_fierro
"How does a guy look at another guy's..."

Reminds me of the Diceman...."I just can't imagine looking at some guy's hairy --- and saying 'I gotta have me some of that' "

43 posted on 01/05/2004 1:47:42 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Some days you're the windshield; some days you're the bug)
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To: Cultural Jihad; Thinkin' Gal
"Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites--in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity;--in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption;--in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere: and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke

I know I've quoted this a lot on FR, but he says so well.

44 posted on 01/05/2004 1:50:12 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: davidosborne
Soon to be proud parents!


45 posted on 01/05/2004 1:51:25 PM PST by GunnyHartman
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To: davidosborne
You can't "marry" two people of the same sex anymore than you can put a round peg in a square hole.

If Mother Nature didn't think male and female were desireable ways of reproducing, there would have been only one sex.

These people are sick perverts.
46 posted on 01/05/2004 2:02:06 PM PST by ZULU
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To: davidosborne
they *think* they're married. But they're not, really. They just qualify to increase family law attorney's paychecks now.
47 posted on 01/05/2004 2:26:25 PM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")
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To: davidosborne
Totally sickening post. But thanks for bringing it to our attention so that we can take some action!
48 posted on 01/05/2004 2:34:43 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ppaul
Dont have a link but I cut out the article..,,
49 posted on 01/05/2004 3:49:07 PM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: JennieOsborne; /\XABN584; 10mm; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...
Just got a chance to scan this in and post....
50 posted on 01/05/2004 3:51:14 PM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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