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A Day in the Life of President Bush (photos) 1.5.04
Yahoo, Reuters, AP | Jan. 5, 2004 | TruthNtegrity

Posted on 01/05/2004 4:30:22 PM PST by TruthNtegrity

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To: azGOPgal; hoosiermama; hoosierpearl; ohioWfan; Maigrey; homemom; mystery-ak; All
Here's what I found on Yahoo, via AP from the White House. Got that chain? :-) Anyway, here ya go!

White House - AP

Bush to Propose Immigration Law Changes
1 hour, 7 minutes ago Add White House - AP to My Yahoo!


By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) will propose immigration law changes to allow workers from Mexico to enter the United States if they have jobs waiting for them, officials said Monday in previewing an election-year measure intended to bolster support among Hispanic voters.

Advocacy groups were invited to the White House on Wednesday to hear details of the program.

"The president has long talked about the importance of having an immigration policy that matches willing workers with willing employers," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. "It's important for America to be a welcoming society. We are a nation of immigrants, and we're better for it."

Immigration advocacy groups characterized Bush's move as a politically drawn effort to curry favor with Hispanics, a potent political force, particularly in key states like Florida, California and border states. Two sources speaking on condition of anonymity said Bush would outline a set of principles rather than a detailed piece of legislation, and that the policy statement would draw on bills already pending in Congress.

"It looks very much like a political effort and what they do with these `principles' is going to determine whether this is really a policy initiative or not," said Cecilia Munoz, vice president for policy at the National Council of La Raza. "The Latino community knows the difference between political posturing and a real policy debate."

She said the initiative was crafted by Bush's political strategist, Karl Rove, and that the immigration policy community was excluded from the deliberations.

"We know of no one in the immigration policy community, business groups or Latino groups who has been consulted," she said.

Rove, with Bush at a campaign fund-raiser in St. Louis, deflected questions about Bush's proposal.

"Stay tuned," he told a reporter.

Bush's planned announcement comes five days before he meets in Mexico with President Vicente Fox (news - web sites) on the sidelines of the Summit of the Americas, a meeting of the hemisphere's leaders.

Mexico is seeking a measure of legality for the approximately 4 million undocumented Mexicans living in the United States and wants a legal way for others to work in the country in the future.

Immigration talks between the United States and Mexico stalled when the Sept. 11 terror attacks prompted the United States to tighten border restrictions, and were set back further by Mexico's refusal to support the Iraq (news - web sites) war. Tensions also arose over Bush's refusal to stop the execution of a Mexican national in Texas.

Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, at a town hall meeting in Miami last month, hinted at a change of policy when he said the United States needs to "come to grips" with an estimated 8 million to 12 million illegal immigrants and "determine how you can legalize their presence." He also said that the immigrants should not be rewarded citizenship.

Bush, at a year-end news conference in January, said he was preparing to send Congress ideas about an "immigration policy that helps match any willing employer with any willing employee." He said he is "firmly against blanket amnesty," or a mass legalization.

Two guest-worker bills have been proposed in Congress: One from Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain and two of McCain's Republican House colleagues, Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake; and a second from Sen. John Cornyn.

Cornyn, a Texas Republican, has proposed that illegal immigrants could volunteer to work for up to three years if a job exists for them. When they've worked three years, they could apply for legal permanent residence, but must return to their country of origin to do so.

Workers illegally in the United States would have 12 months to apply to the program and after that would no longer be eligible. Those accepted would be given a "blue card," allowing them to travel outside the United States.

The Cornyn proposal would give guest workers the same rights granted Americans under Labor Department (news - web sites) laws and would set up accounts for workers in which employers would deposit money drawn from workers' wages in lieu of withdrawing the money for Social Security (news - web sites) or Medicare.

The money would be held by the Treasury and would be refunded to the worker when the worker returns to his or her home country.

101 posted on 01/05/2004 6:45:33 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
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To: ohioWfan
Some. Actually I used anything that worked for the individual child. Some needed this and some that. If the overall presentation didn't work then we went to plan "B". Found mixing methods worked best. Was one of the first in the US instructed in Orff/Kod. ,but only received workshop instruction in Dalcroze. WHen all else fails it seem successful and still use it some with the band students.
102 posted on 01/05/2004 6:46:00 PM PST by hoosiermama (Prayers for all!)
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To: Maigrey; ohioWfan; azGOPgal; GretchenEE; All
I said to a friend yesterday, after listening to some of the debates (attacks on Dean more like it) from Iowa, that it's going to be really hard to go through 10 more months of this.

I think you're right. It's only going to get worse and I think before this is over, we are going to be fasting and praying as we never have before!
103 posted on 01/05/2004 6:49:33 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
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To: hoosiermama
If you don't mind my asking, when did you start using Orff and Kodaly in the public schools, and how were you trained for it?
104 posted on 01/05/2004 6:49:43 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: TruthNtegrity; MJY1288
Mike just posted the only immigration policy of the Bush administration in writing since 2001, on another thread.

Would you post it here too, Mike, with your explanation of it?

105 posted on 01/05/2004 6:53:18 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: TruthNtegrity
We have a young man working where I do part time as a janitor. He works hard and is very good at what he does. I suspect he may be illegal, but he has such a wonderful personality and is so appreciative of his job, that no one would even consider saying anything about it. He certainly does a better job, then the lazy "drunk" they had before.

If this scenario is true throughout the nation I hope the president does get some laws changed. Too many people think they have a right to a job ($) without putting out any energy....That borders on socialism.
106 posted on 01/05/2004 6:54:19 PM PST by hoosiermama (Prayers for all!)
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To: TruthNtegrity
WOOHOO.....thanks Truthy.....NICE pics.....and I'm GLAD our President is out RAISING money.....we're going to need it to beat the Dem Mafia and their dead voters. (Oops....should I not say that?)

Can someone tell me....is today the eleventh or twelfth day of Christmas....I'm confused....I do know tomorrow is Epiphany. (And, I thought the 12th day??? which means I've been off one day for the past 11 days)
107 posted on 01/05/2004 6:56:17 PM PST by goodnesswins (On the ELEVENTH Day of CHRISTMAS........)
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To: TruthNtegrity
Great detective work Truthy. Thanks for posting the article for us.

Here is my feeling on immigration, and I don't mean to offend anybody by my own personal views. I don't think that all 8-12 million illegals should be granted amnesty. I don't think that we should close our borders, but I definitely think that security around the boarders needs to be tightened. Cornyn's idea sounds pretty good, but I would have to look into it further in order to make a definitive answer.
108 posted on 01/05/2004 6:57:38 PM PST by azGOPgal (Reject Socialism Vote Republican)
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To: TruthNtegrity
"Gosh, I love this President. I would so like to know him as a personal friend. Sigh. Big sigh." My fantasy too.....or even his wife, as a friend, or his mother, or his father....LOL.
109 posted on 01/05/2004 6:58:37 PM PST by goodnesswins (On the ELEVENTH Day of CHRISTMAS........)
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To: Maigrey
Do what I do. Read the post and ignore the comments. You will learn and you don't have to put up with the idiots.
110 posted on 01/05/2004 6:59:06 PM PST by Kath (Luvya Dubya)
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To: ohioWfan
From the White House Website:

HERE

Ensuring Detention and Removal of Illegal Aliens: The Administration is committed to removing those who have entered the country illegally and to detain criminal aliens. The budget funds INS detention and deportation staff and provides resources to remove criminal and illegal aliens swiftly. The 2002 Budget provides $89 million to support an additional 1,607 average daily detention bed spaces for a total level of more than 21,000 bed spaces. INS will continue to target its efforts primarily on removing deportable aliens held in Federal, State, and local facilities to ensure that these criminal aliens are not allowed back on the street. The budget also continues funding to fully implement detention standards to ensure those detained, particularly those who have pending asylum cases, are treated fairly.

Above is the ONLY policy in writing on illegals this administration has issued since January 20th, 2001

111 posted on 01/05/2004 7:01:10 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: ohioWfan
Thirty plus years ago, while an under-grad at Ball State, the university brought the teachers over from Europe. I was trained from the original students of Orff and Kodaly. Received 16 quarter hours of credit, between B and Masters program.... have attended workshop since. They finally got around to giving us the first level of certification a few years back.

Personally I think using all Orff instruments leaves a big gap in what a student can achieve. Actually had my first and second graders reading and writing music. Kodaly is good ear training, but again using it alone leaves a deficit.


We need to get together and talk.
112 posted on 01/05/2004 7:01:51 PM PST by hoosiermama (Prayers for all!)
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To: azGOPgal
I agree. No blanket amnesty..........that's not going to happen with this President.

But, a stricter immigration policy, and more to beef up border security (though I know that much more has been done than the I-hate-Bush crowd will admit).

I like this fingerprint foreigners policy that has started in airports, too.

113 posted on 01/05/2004 7:03:00 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: TruthNtegrity
If people think the hatred is bad now, just wait until the dems pick an actual candidate. I assume they will unite all of their hatred behind the one candidate and focus it all on President Bush.

It won't stop during the campaigns either. When Bush wins, all the dems will just continue to spew mass amounts of hatred in order to block any of the Presidents actions.

You're right. We will be praying a whole lot from here on out. But it's worth it.
114 posted on 01/05/2004 7:03:06 PM PST by azGOPgal (Reject Socialism Vote Republican)
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To: TruthNtegrity
If what Sec. Ridge did say (re: the ramifications of using an expedited method of gaining citizenship), then I don't see as many people utilizing this for gaining citizenship.

A. Most of these people who are off-the-books don't pay taxes, so they can't gain step one.
B. They wouldn't want to run the risk of leaving and returning so they can file the paperwork (unless they want to use a proxy from where they live.)
C. The jobs that the illegals do aren't necessarily loww paying jobs - just ones that were accomplished by Union workers accustomed to making $25/hour and having the protections of not losing their job for less than stellar performance.

My guess on all this is: The olive branch will be extended to the few who will want the amnesty, and the real chance for becoming legal. The rest will make their cash money, and ship the rest home to support those who aren't here.
At some point, the wrecking ball will be lowered (if not now, then in the next 3 years or so) to do massive sweeps for illegals, and have them deported. (And the goofy people at Amnesty Intl., ACLU, Southern Poverty Law Center, et al. will howl because we are sweeping the illegals out.)

Well, that's my nutshell. Anyone else?

115 posted on 01/05/2004 7:03:40 PM PST by Maigrey (Dubya: Drives SUV; Eats Beef; catches his own fish; eats animals)
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To: goodnesswins
Tomorrow is 12th day, Jan. 6th.
116 posted on 01/05/2004 7:03:49 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
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To: MJY1288; All
Thanks, Mike!
117 posted on 01/05/2004 7:05:06 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: hoosiermama
I agree. One method alone is inadequate.

I haven't spent that much time in elementary music, though, so I don't have the expertise and experience that you have.

Did you happen to work with Mary Helen Richards? I was in a workshop with her 30 years ago, and I believe she studied with Kodaly.

118 posted on 01/05/2004 7:07:37 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: MJY1288
See my #101 above.

It comes from the White House, via AP, to Yahoo.

119 posted on 01/05/2004 7:08:18 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
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To: ohioWfan
It's simple logic when you think about it...

If you have a problem with the insects that invade your home because of the food you leave on your dining room table, Stop making the food available for them. Don't try to chase them away one by one while leaving the food on the table.

120 posted on 01/05/2004 7:09:07 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: MJY1288
Thanks for posting that info Mike.
121 posted on 01/05/2004 7:10:40 PM PST by azGOPgal (Reject Socialism Vote Republican)
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To: TruthNtegrity
Thanks...that means we start counting on the 26th...
122 posted on 01/05/2004 7:10:56 PM PST by goodnesswins (On the ELEVENTH Day of CHRISTMAS........)
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To: TruthNtegrity
That's not from the White House, That's from Terrance Hunt a White House Correspondent
123 posted on 01/05/2004 7:10:59 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: ohioWfan
To explain my post #129, My belief is that we must go after those who employ illegals knowingly
124 posted on 01/05/2004 7:12:34 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: ohioWfan
LOL Post #120
125 posted on 01/05/2004 7:13:04 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: ohioWfan
I also went to one of her workshops. But she wasn't amoung the origianl Ball State/European group. She's also one of the authors to one of the elementary music text books.

I was on the state committee that wrote one of our first curriculum and past president of the state general music group, so many of the "experts" brains got picked at one time or another. But I'm horrible with names, dates etc.
126 posted on 01/05/2004 7:14:24 PM PST by hoosiermama (Prayers for all!)
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To: MJY1288
Exactly, and as I said on the other thread, your analogy of food on the table is excellent.

I believe that the Bush adminstration's getting tough on the employers of illegals will be more effective in the long run than swatting flies, as it were.

127 posted on 01/05/2004 7:14:30 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: ohioWfan
The President has always done more than what the Bush hating crowd will ever admit. They will always try and find one little flaw and then scream "Chicken Little".

Ditto on the fingerprinting. I don't know exactly to what degree the borders where tightened after 9/11, but I think they could probably be a bit more secure. Especially up around Canada. One of my roommates is from the New England area and says it's a breeze getting in and out of Canada. I don't know how easy it is getting in if you're not American, though.
128 posted on 01/05/2004 7:17:08 PM PST by azGOPgal (Reject Socialism Vote Republican)
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To: hoosiermama
Well, stick around during the next 15 weeks, OK?

I'm teaching a class on integrating music into the elementary classroom (for non-majors), and I might like to pick your brain now and again, if you wouldn't mind.....

129 posted on 01/05/2004 7:18:24 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: TruthNtegrity
Great Dose, TNT! What wonderful pictures!
130 posted on 01/05/2004 7:19:13 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc ( We cannot change the direction of the wind... but we can adjust our sails.)
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To: ohioWfan
Oh do I have ideas. You want me to come visit for a day????!
131 posted on 01/05/2004 7:19:44 PM PST by hoosiermama (Prayers for all!)
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To: azGOPgal
I think that immigration and securing the borders is one of the thorniest post 9/11 problems for President Bush to deal with.

We ARE an open society, and a nation of immigrants, so finding the right balance between security and freedom is a very real challenge.

It's not as black and white as guys like O'Reilly and others want it to be.

I'm just thankful that we have a President who is thoughtfully and prayerfully dealing with a very difficult problem, and I think we all need to keep praying for him about this subject, as well as all others.

132 posted on 01/05/2004 7:22:30 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: TruthNtegrity
Thanks so much for finding this! Quite different than it was presented by the Dems. I think it's interesting that no one in the immigration policy community was included in the discussions--that should stop talk that Bush does what he does just to get votes.

Thanks again!
133 posted on 01/05/2004 7:23:33 PM PST by homemom (Watch and be ready.)
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To: TruthNtegrity
I read the article in question, and I find it appalling that the one person who they quote high up is someone from La Raza! Talk about showing your socialist slant quite early!

Honestly, I am torn on the issue concerning illegal immigration. On one hand, I do not think that for one moment we should reward people who break the law, by utilizing prescious resources without paying into the system, and do not wish to integrate into American society.
On the other hand, the compassionate conservative in me wants those people who are willing to jump through the hoops to remain here, and reward them for trying to integrate into this society.

I understand that the issue of discretion comes into play, but as we speak, who can make the decision of who is allowed to stay (discretion) and who is deported (enforcement)?

The people are going to have hard choices to make, and someone is going to be quite unhappy and sue for it. I bet on this only.

134 posted on 01/05/2004 7:24:55 PM PST by Maigrey (Dubya: Drives SUV; Eats Beef; catches his own fish; eats animals)
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To: azGOPgal
Ugh BONK ping (the soccer ball weighs 'bout 100lbs!)

LOLOL I hope you've got the pot o' expresso for reading my reply!

135 posted on 01/05/2004 7:28:56 PM PST by Maigrey (Dubya: Drives SUV; Eats Beef; catches his own fish; eats animals)
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To: ohioWfan
I agree with you.

A great majority of us wouldn't be here if the US wasn't open to immigration.
136 posted on 01/05/2004 7:30:00 PM PST by azGOPgal (Reject Socialism Vote Republican)
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To: TruthNtegrity; All
OHHH GUYSSSS guess what I score

Time Magazine that has photos of Dubya at Ranch

RACK ITTT

Hey guys in full photo of Dubya with Barney in his lap in his truck he holding them

SHUT F*** UP PETA they run smack chat on LA news saying it is very wrong for Dubya have Barney in front seat

Guys Dubya is driving with hand having Barney in bear hug he hold him tightly
you could tell

F*** YOU PETA
137 posted on 01/05/2004 7:31:45 PM PST by SevenofNine (Not everybody in it for truth, justice, and the American way=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Maigrey
I 'spect I better get my reading glasses on.

Is this novel on the best sellers list? :)
138 posted on 01/05/2004 7:32:16 PM PST by azGOPgal (Reject Socialism Vote Republican)
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To: SpaceBar
Oh, geez, here we go...
139 posted on 01/05/2004 7:34:08 PM PST by NordP (Peace through Strength - W 2004 !!!)
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To: ohioWfan
I admire your restraint, and compliment your truths.
140 posted on 01/05/2004 7:35:22 PM PST by NordP (Peace through Strength - W 2004 !!!)
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To: hoosiermama
But hasn't the overall society slipped towards socialism for the last 50 years or so (due to lawyers thinking they know how to run things?)

I'd rather see "things" run like a business, with no freeloading (well, maybe a camel's nose worth) to make the competition work, and make "things" better for all?

I remember when the company I used to work for changed the pay policies from hourly + commission to straight hourly because someone high up thought the system was being abused.

I argued that doing such, that the employee loses the motivation for real customer service, and the customer (and the company) lose out from the loss. Needless, people didn't see it my way, and the company did suffer (and still does to this day!)

Personally, I'd take a person who is motivated and untrained, than someone with a large chip and ego and unmotivated. The motivated person will get better, and maybe improve and grow with the company, rather than the piece of job-protected deadwood. (I personally thhink this is why socialism and communism won't work in a large scale environment - lack of motivation to improve your personal lot.)

141 posted on 01/05/2004 7:36:29 PM PST by Maigrey (Dubya: Drives SUV; Eats Beef; catches his own fish; eats animals)
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To: ohioWfan
Most of the people who are advocating securing our boarders tighter say that they would use the military to secure the boarders. This won't fly (Some law on the Federal Books about using Military for domestic action. (Possee Comittius????)

How can the US utilize a tighter boarder control, besides building a huge wal and putting razor wire on top?

I know that most people won't abuse the system, but there will always be a bad apple of the bushel. How can we prevent the bad appple (or, in this case, keep an eye on the bad apple without trampling the liberties?)

142 posted on 01/05/2004 7:43:22 PM PST by Maigrey (Dubya: Drives SUV; Eats Beef; catches his own fish; eats animals)
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To: Maigrey
Hmmm...I don't know. That article about Dean's mommy came from Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff . Would they pick it up from the Onion?
143 posted on 01/05/2004 7:43:38 PM PST by kitkat (Purr, purr)
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To: DrDeb
Thanks for posting the link, DrDeb!
144 posted on 01/05/2004 7:44:30 PM PST by NordP (Peace through Strength - W 2004 !!!)
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To: Maigrey
My dad who will be 84 this week is still practicing law. He, as are all lawyers, is required to take workshop every year to keep up-to-date with the new laws. He says the workshop are just instructions on how to get around the laws!

Blames the liberal universities for not giving the lawyers the education they need. Several judges, law firms and local banks come to him to "straighten things out" after the young one make a mess of people's estates.

He won't retire, because he knows his clients "friends" would have no one to trust with the legal business.
145 posted on 01/05/2004 7:46:28 PM PST by hoosiermama (Prayers for all!)
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To: MJY1288
Mike---

But at what point does plausable denyability come into play? Does the foreman who hired the illegal with fake papers get slammed? The subcontractor who had the foreman, or the contractor who owned the company who contracted for the subcontractor?

(My step-brother is a construction company subcontractor with legals on his books (so he says.....))

How high and low do we go to take the food off the table?

146 posted on 01/05/2004 7:48:21 PM PST by Maigrey (Dubya: Drives SUV; Eats Beef; catches his own fish; eats animals)
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To: Maigrey
If you ask someone if they are legal and they say "yes" are you liable if they lied?
147 posted on 01/05/2004 7:53:19 PM PST by hoosiermama (Prayers for all!)
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To: ohioWfan; MJY1288
I believe that the Bush adminstration's getting tough on the employers of illegals will be more effective in the long run than swatting flies, as it were.They already are tough on employers. My son is a construction superintendent in California and hires a lot of immigrants. The government inspectors check the documentation of his crew quite often. The size of crew fluctuates and there is a high turnover,and the job sites change. He does his best to avoid hiring illegals but it is hard to verify their documentation and he has been fined a few times. The government inspectors are doing the best they can.
148 posted on 01/05/2004 7:57:55 PM PST by tommix2
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To: azGOPgal
It should be!
149 posted on 01/05/2004 8:00:11 PM PST by Maigrey (Dubya: Drives SUV; Eats Beef; catches his own fish; eats animals)
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To: hoosiermama; All
I wish everything was on a case-by-case basis, but with that possibility, comes the happenstance of corruption and bribery from the people in question.

If any policy is made into law, someone innocent might get hurt. But if the policy/law is too lax, then there is the possibility of corruption/letting someone who isn't innocent into the system.

What would be a good balance?

150 posted on 01/05/2004 8:04:22 PM PST by Maigrey (Dubya: Drives SUV; Eats Beef; catches his own fish; eats animals)
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