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FBI Arab translators cheered Sept. 11
WND ^ | 1/7/04 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 01/07/2004 4:43:49 AM PST by Diogenesis

Arab translators cheered Sept. 11 [.... while the FBI kept the FBI free of Jews]

By Paul Sperry
WASHINGTON – In a shocking revelation, an FBI whistleblower claims some
Arab-Americans translating Arabic intercepts for the FBI spoke approvingly
of the terrorist attacks on America more than two years ago.


Former FBI translator Sibel D. Edmonds says translators of Middle Eastern
origin working for the FBI's Washington field office maintain an
"us"-versus-"them" attitude that's so strong it may be compromising al-Qaida
investigations.


She cited examples of mistranslations and security breaches within the FBI's
language division, where translators with Top Secret clearance interpret
sensitive terror-related information for agents.


"The issues and problems within the FBI's translation units range from
security failures to questions of loyalty to competence of translation personnel
to systemic problems within their low-to-mid-level management practices,"
Edmonds said.


She made the explosive charges Monday in a letter to the National
Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, an independent
panel investigating the 9-11 attacks and U.S. intelligence leading up to them.
WorldNetDaily has obtained a copy of the 9-page letter.


Edmonds, a translator who worked closely with FBI counterterrorism and
counterintelligence agents at an office within blocks of the Washington field
office, said she overheard some translators express sympathy for the 9-11
terrorist attacks.


"During my work with the bureau, I was seriously taken aback by what I
heard and witnessed within the translation department," she said. "There
were those who openly divided the fronts as 'Us' – the Middle-Easterners who
shared certain views – and 'Them' – the Americans who were the outsiders
[whose] arrogance was now 'leading to their own destruction.'"


Not long after the attacks, Edmonds said one translator said: "It is about time
that they get a taste of what they have been giving to the rest of the Middle
East."


She says the remark was made in front of the unit supervisor, also of Middle
Eastern origin.


"These comments were neither rare nor made in a whisper," Edmonds said.
"They were open and loud."


She says such attitudes call into question "the integrity and accuracy" of
information Arabic translators are feeding agents.


Edmonds says agents who don't speak Arabic have no way of knowing
whether the information they receive from translators is tainted.


"They simply have to trust the information given to them by translators," she
said, "and based on that, decide to act or not act."


Decisions to release terrorist suspects taken into custody are also based on
translations of interviews with those suspects, she argues.


Remarkably, agents don't even have direct security access to the translation
unit, Edmonds says. They have to be escorted into the area by translators.


She says she caught a Turkish translator intentionally blocking intelligence
from being translated by labeling it as "not pertinent." The translator also
intentionally mistranslated documents and other information, she says. And
she alleges the same linguist, Melek Can Dickerson, was granted security
clearance by the FBI despite ties to targets of FBI investigations.


After she brought the alleged breaches to the attention of her supervisors,
Edmonds was fired by the FBI. Her termination letter does not state a reason.


Edmonds filed a lawsuit, but Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI
Director Robert Mueller got a federal judge to block it by asserting the
extremely rare claim of "State Secret Privilege."


And her lawyers say Justice's inspector general is slow-walking an internal
review of her case, even though the office has criticized the FBI for security
lapses in recent reports, some related to the language program. In fact, a Nov.
15, 2002, IG report states: "A language specialist was dismissed for
unauthorized contacts with foreign officials and intelligence officers, receipts
of things of value from them and lack of candor in his convoluted and
contradictory responses to questions about his contacts."


Most of Edmonds' charges have been confirmed by Sen. Charles Grassley,
R-Iowa, and other members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who have
quizzed the FBI about her case. Edmonds sent a copy of her 9-page letter to
Grassley, one of the FBI's biggest critics on the Hill.


The FBI blamed the security lapses on a chronic shortage of Arabic translators,
which has forced it to hire mostly immigrants from the Middle East, which
makes background checks more difficult.


The Washington field office did not return repeated phone calls seeking
comment.


But the chief of the FBI's language section, Margaret Gullota, has insisted in
congressional testimony that the FBI hasn't loosened its standards in recruiting
Arabic-speaking translators since 9-11.


Edmonds isn't the only one complaining, though.


John Cole, program manager for the FBI foreign intelligence investigations
covering India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, told Congress about what he
believed to be a security lapse regarding the screening and hiring of
translators.


And Donald Lavey, who worked in counterterrorism for 20 years at the FBI,
recalled loyalty issues with a former Arab translator in the FBI's Detroit office.
He said wiretap translations by Mideast-born agents should have a "second
opinion," because their backgrounds may "prejudice" their interpretation and
analysis.


Both he and Edmonds note that translators often exclude large sections of
Arabic dialogue as irrelevant to the investigation, when in fact, they may be
relevant.


"There are thousands of translated documents/information and documents
that were labeled as 'not pertinent to be translated' by certain translators
before and after Sept. 11, that need to, and have to, be retranslated and
re-examined," Edmonds wrote in her letter.


Also, she says some Arab-American translators, including a supervisor,
threatened to sue the FBI for discrimination after complaints were filed
against them.


"In one case, a certain individual ended up getting a supervisory position,
even though initially he was refused due to his questionable past,
incompetence and fraudulent invoices" for expenses, Edmonds said. She
declined to reveal his name.


Edmonds says she is working with some families of 9-11 victims to lobby the
9-11 Commission to investigate the Arabic translation department at the FBI.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; arabamericans; arabictranslators; enemywithin; fbi; fbitranslators; sibeldedmonds; sibeledmonds; translators; whistleblower
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To: Diogenesis
You're right there are no excuses. I am talking after all about DOD's capability and the article is talking about FBI.

Before 911, FBI and DOD acted as if they agencies in two different worlds. Hopefully the DHS has resolved these imbalances in capabilities. Historically it stands to reason that FBI would have less capability that DOD in languages. Afterall, FBI was primarily a domestic agency.
41 posted on 01/07/2004 5:36:02 AM PST by Hostage
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To: PJ-Comix
BULL! You can't take an adult, immerse him in a language, and then have him speaking it without an accent in six months.

Actually you can, if you take an intelligent person with linguistic aptitude and give him intensive and rigorous training. The Army does this all the time in a specialized base/school in Monterey CA.

I was offered this program, but like a dumbass I chose to go infantry.

42 posted on 01/07/2004 5:36:13 AM PST by AAABEST
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I hope some agency has approriated funds to develop a decent computer program that can do these translations. NEVER trust a Muslim. All those who cheered the attacks should be removed from their jobs or relocated to whatever stinking hellhole they came from.
43 posted on 01/07/2004 5:41:14 AM PST by BadAndy
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To: spodefly
"...and for "Homeland Security" to ignore."

I think you mis-understand government operations. Do you really think the Homeland Security people would take this story and come out saying they were going to do this, that, the other and here is the time frame..., etc.

Hell, they are more secretive than the Chicago Bears are with their playbook. They eally don't telegraph their plays, and I, for one, am rather glad.
44 posted on 01/07/2004 5:41:17 AM PST by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried!)
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To: Peach
Former FBI translator Sibel D. Edmonds says translators of Middle Eastern origin working for the FBI's Washington field office maintain an "us"-versus-"them" attitude that's so strong it may be compromising al-Qaida investigations.

I expect the usual parade of incompetents and the ignorant and the 2+2 = 7 crowd to start a new refrain: Hate speech! Where's the proof?
The lethal inevitable result of the triumph of PC over common sense.

And a continuing total paralyzing state of collective cultural cognitive dissonance, the determined refusal to see what has been obvious for 1400 years: Islam is not a religion in the sense that westerners grasp it. It is an inseperable and fanatical militant invader, using all means including murder, but emphasizing our concept of religion as the means to achieve their ends.

Islam is an permanent meld of the religious and the secular, and there is no limit as to the means it uses to achieve its objective.
We can continue calling gunpowder "charcoal", if we insist, but it will not prevent it from blowing up in our faces. The question remains, how many times must it blow up before the message comes through?

45 posted on 01/07/2004 5:41:29 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: ought-six
After she brought the alleged breaches to the attention of her supervisors,
Edmonds was fired by the FBI. Her termination letter does not state a reason.

Edmonds filed a lawsuit, but Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI
Director Robert Mueller got a federal judge to block it by asserting the
extremely rare claim of "State Secret Privilege."

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I've always suspected they had infiltrated the FBI. This is most disturbing, especially that Edmonds was fired for reporting it. That tells me they are in HIGH positions as well, not just translators.

46 posted on 01/07/2004 5:41:45 AM PST by Muzzle_em
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To: Hostage
I began learning Spanish when I was 8 years old in Puerto Rico. As a result my accent is better than 95% of the other "gringos." However, when I try to pronounce French it is horrible. As a result, I am convinced that foreign languages should be taught in grade school rather than starting in high school like it currently is. Because we lived in Puerto Rico, Spanish was mandatory for all grades even though I went to an English speaking school (Commonwealth School). Within an amazingly short period of time I had the accent down pretty good. The only pronunciation I had trouble with was the distinctive double r. That took me about 4 or 5 months to be able to correctly pronounce. I actually remember the time I was finally able to duplicate it. It was on a trip on the island and my dad was driving and suddenly I was able to roll my tongue correctly. Once I accomplished it, I spent most of the rest of the trip rolling the double r's on my tongue much to the amusement of the Puerto Rican women in the car.

The biggest problem for gringos is that double r pronunciation (also single r since it is also requires a slight tongue roll). Therefore I am convinced that languages should be learned while young.

47 posted on 01/07/2004 5:41:58 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: Diogenesis
Disgusting and frightening.

Also, she says some Arab-American translators, including a supervisor, threatened to sue the FBI for discrimination after complaints were filed against them.

The age of political correctness is going to be the death of us all. /a little melodramatic

48 posted on 01/07/2004 5:43:31 AM PST by MrConfettiMan ("Use an open-faced club. A sand wedge." "Mmmmm ... open faced club sandwich.")
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To: Peach
I do NOT want to believe this story.

Nor do I. But we dismiss it at our peril. If this thread does not persist for several thousand posts, I will abandon all hope of national sanity.

49 posted on 01/07/2004 5:43:39 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Diogenesis
Does not surprise me in today's workplace (infiltration).

Houston had a worker who was on the city payroll who was caught sending an email cheering the WTC attack (he was Pakistani).

50 posted on 01/07/2004 5:44:10 AM PST by weegee
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To: PJ-Comix
Languages are easier when learned young but people with a high aptitude and talent for languages can pick up even the nuances of a language in a short time.
51 posted on 01/07/2004 5:45:20 AM PST by Hostage
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To: Publius6961
Yes, I am not saying I DON'T believe it. Just sadly don't want to.

But we have seen evidence of this in the past...right in this country.
52 posted on 01/07/2004 5:45:22 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: AAABEST
I was offered this program, but like a dumbass I chose to go infantry.

I was also offered this program but declined when I found out I couldn't get my choice of languages. Somehow I didn't find learning Bulgarian or Hungarian or Turkish appealing. If I put that effort in, I wanted to learn a MAJOR language.

53 posted on 01/07/2004 5:45:24 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: Hostage
If that's the case, backup translations should easily be vlaidated via recordings.

Are you mad? Do you have an inkling of the volume of data involved? What will they do? ignore the current hundreds of thousands bits of data to go back and verify perhaps millions of misinterpreted prior messages?

The first step towards solving a problem is having a firm grasp of its magnitude.

54 posted on 01/07/2004 5:48:04 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Hostage
Languages are easier when learned young but people with a high aptitude and talent for languages can pick up even the nuances of a language in a short time.

I once listened to an inteview in French with an Iranian. Much to my surprise I understood almost everything the Iranian was saying but nothing of what the native French speaking interviewer said. Maybe it was because the Iranian was speaking slower. However, my pronunciation of French is horrible.

55 posted on 01/07/2004 5:48:22 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: BadAndy
When you see people on the Ask The Iman and Islam Q&A sites admonishing muslims not to cooperate with Americans, it becomes clear that there is a fifth column operating.
56 posted on 01/07/2004 5:49:23 AM PST by weegee
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To: PJ-Comix
LOL!

When I was in they were looking for people to learn Armenian. Who the heck wants to learn Armenian?

57 posted on 01/07/2004 5:50:39 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: livius
FWIW, I spoke with a parent of a female Army specialist recently who had been wounded in Iraq earlier and was looking at a discharge, but had been translating for the Army. They hired her back as a civilian at $150K plus. Not a bad severence opportunity.
58 posted on 01/07/2004 5:51:35 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: AAABEST
When I was in they were looking for people to learn Armenian. Who the heck wants to learn Armenian?

That was EXACTLY the problem. I had absolutely NO DESIRE to learn minor languages. BTW, Armenian is an EXTREMELY difficult language to learn.

59 posted on 01/07/2004 5:54:27 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: ought-six
You ignore it to the peril of our republic.

Just like illegal immigration is ignored, border control is ignored, reducing the size of government is ignored, the adverse consequences of our trade deficit w/ China is ignored, and the adverse consequences of the increasing federal debt and spending are ignored.

Republic? Is there a republic anymore? LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE! /sarcasm

60 posted on 01/07/2004 5:54:45 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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