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Check Out Lou Dobbs on CNN Cable right now really tearing into the Illegal Alien Amnesty of Bush!
CNN cable Lou Dobbs | 01/07/2003 | brianbaldwin

Posted on 01/07/2004 3:49:58 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin

Check Out Lou Dobbs on CNN Cable right now – he’s really tearing into the Illegal Alien Amnesty of Bush!

If you’re not tuned in, check it out right now, Lou Dobb’s on CNN Cable is really hitting the pertinent points regarding illegal aliens as well as the Bush amnesty. If you missed it, hopefully it will re-air later tonight, on CNN cable. I believe this man truly is a fighter and advocate for the interests of the workers and labor in this country the USA – he is asking very direct questions about the problems of illegal immigration from Mexico, and though he may be a Democrat he presents the news in a superb manner, in this case brings an exciting and significant forum of news events discussion and coverage (Faceoff on CNN, as well as other CNN programs featuring this host). He really got my blood going, he was right on and no fan of illegal immigration.

I don’t want to hear the Mahatma Gandhi insult/quote from Hillary again, not even from the so-called conservative shows/hosts. There is only one issue to cover, and that is the Buffalo that Bush has pulled on all conservatives and Americans. You know, some folks say the Democratic Party is dead. Maybe so. But, maybe not, in that, I would wager, if some Democratic candidate, spokesperson, politician (with a D next to the name) went back to early Democratic Party roots, and focused on the interests of American workers, that is hit on the issues of exporting American jobs to India et all, off shore outsourcing, and yes, what the invasion of illegal aliens from South of the Border is doing to undercut living wage jobs in the USA for labor, I would predict this person would rise like a comet, a meteor, and could very well take the White House. Would the Democratic Party make such a swing away from the left “progressive” wing to become a party that advocates American Workers First? I think it is possible, not immediate, but possible, and probable to come. It’s all a matter of which party gets on this wave first – the Republicans or the Democrats. I predict, that will be the Party that will sweep America. Don’t think so?

I think so. I think that these issues, Made in America, Jobs in USA, American Workers First, illegal aliens, Bush type amnesty, exporting American jobs, offshore outsourcing, are, and will become even more, THE issues of the next four to eight years, and more.

I am outraged by Buffalo Bush.

How dare that man say that I would not do the jobs, any job it takes, to put food on the table of my family. How dare that man say such a thing. That I am a lazy American, and the only Mexicans who come here illegally have the character to do a job, any job, to put food on the table for their family. He can go to Mexico and not come back. My forefathers lived in a wooden box pulled by a horse with a canvas for a roof called a horse drawn wagon, to go somewhere, to put food on the table. My forefathers worked in dirty mines, chucking broken quartz and rock into wagons, to put food on the table. I will do the job, I will get up on someone’s roof and put up shingles, I will paint a wall, I will pick up garbage, to put food on the table for my family. I am an American. And I am proud. And I have the character to do anything it takes. How DARE this President say I won’t do the job it takes if that is what it takes to put food on the table for my family. How DARE he say that. I am an American. I will work. My character, and the character of my forefathers, brought the FREEDOM of this nation, not some illegal alien from Mexico. I will put MY character up against them any day, any place.

Against any one.

Including you, Mr. Bush.


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1 posted on 01/07/2004 3:49:58 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Brian_Baldwin
How dare that man say that I would not do the jobs, any job it takes, to put food on the table of my family. How dare that man say such a thing. That I am a lazy American, and the only Mexicans who come here illegally have the character to do a job, any job, to put food on the table for their family. He can go to Mexico and not come back. My forefathers lived in a wooden box pulled by a horse with a canvas for a roof called a horse drawn wagon, to go somewhere, to put food on the table. My forefathers worked in dirty mines, chucking broken quartz and rock into wagons, to put food on the table. I will do the job, I will get up on someone’s roof and put up shingles, I will paint a wall, I will pick up garbage, to put food on the table for my family. I am an American. And I am proud. And I have the character to do anything it takes. How DARE this President say I won’t do the job it takes if that is what it takes to put food on the table for my family. How DARE he say that. I am an American. I will work. My character, and the character of my forefathers, brought the FREEDOM of this nation, not some illegal alien from Mexico. I will put MY character up against them any day, any place. damn right bump sir!
2 posted on 01/07/2004 3:51:38 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
I will put MY character up against them any day, any place. Against any one. Including you, Mr. Bush.

Good Lord... get over yourself.

3 posted on 01/07/2004 3:51:40 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: All
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4 posted on 01/07/2004 3:53:28 PM PST by Support Free Republic (If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened!)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Bush is beyond pathetic!

5 posted on 01/07/2004 3:53:48 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Well now look at it this way, Bush like so many others that want to serve the country, was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
6 posted on 01/07/2004 3:56:03 PM PST by cynicom
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Dobbs has been all over this issue for ages. And he's been correct. Too bad those living close to Imperial Rome don't realize the waste they are laying to the rest of the nation.
7 posted on 01/07/2004 3:56:25 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Deserving ain't got nothing to do with it" - William Money)
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To: Texas_Dawg
CNN?

You actually watch that tripe?

8 posted on 01/07/2004 3:57:20 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: VU4G10
Bush is beyond pathetic!

And you are...?

9 posted on 01/07/2004 3:58:30 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Brian_Baldwin
But, maybe not, in that, I would wager, if some Democratic candidate, spokesperson, politician (with a D next to the name) went back to early Democratic Party roots, and focused on the interests of American workers, that is hit on the issues of exporting American jobs to India et all, off shore outsourcing, and yes, what the invasion of illegal aliens from South of the Border is doing to undercut living wage jobs in the USA for labor, I would predict this person would rise like a comet, a meteor,

If he was Pro life and Pro gun he would have a Hell of a GOOD chance
10 posted on 01/07/2004 3:58:32 PM PST by uncbob
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To: VU4G10
Alright, simmer down now. Its not the end of the world. This is unlikely to become law before the election.
11 posted on 01/07/2004 4:00:43 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: Happy2BMe
CNN? You actually watch that tripe?

I don't. Obviously this FReeper does. Oh yeah, and his dad can beat up the President's dad or something. He's tough, you know.

12 posted on 01/07/2004 4:02:00 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: VU4G10
Have you forgotten?
13 posted on 01/07/2004 4:02:55 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: Brian_Baldwin
When we lived in the Cayman Islands, you had to have a "work permit" that was renewable every year. Each job had to be advertised once a year, and if a Caymanian was qualified and wanted the job, then your work permit was revoked.

There were plenty of jobs the Caymanians didn't want, and for the most part, folks from neighboring Caribbean countries did that work.

If there wasn't a skilled Caymanian available to do a specific task, the company would hire someone other than a Caymanian.

I think there should be recognition that there are jobs that Americans don't want, or let's put it this way, have moved away from.

Migrant agriculture workers seem to me the perfect example of jobs that most Americans would have a hard time adapting to.

But a system should be in place that allows a citizen to take precedence over a "work permit" holder, should they want the job.

14 posted on 01/07/2004 4:04:12 PM PST by dawn53
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To: dawn53
Would you please not be so logical? This is FR. You're supposed to just say you hate the President now and think you are voting for Pat Buchanan now and talk about how much better an American you are than everyone else because you hate "illegals" (or, Mexicans, as they're more commonly known as).
16 posted on 01/07/2004 4:06:03 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: Rebel Coach
What an ironic tagline you have.
17 posted on 01/07/2004 4:06:45 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: Brian_Baldwin
DOBBS IS RIGHT!!!
tbird1
18 posted on 01/07/2004 4:07:21 PM PST by tbird1
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To: KantianBurke
I didn't hear Bush say any of those things. Are you off your meds?
19 posted on 01/07/2004 4:07:42 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: Texas_Dawg
It's quite pointless, I'm afraid, to argue with the 'Deport Illegals' 'Seal the Borders' bumper-sticker crowd.

Are these the same people who advocate nuking Mecca and Medina, do you think?

Ahh, if only life was that simple and Americans had no sense of proportion.

20 posted on 01/07/2004 4:10:31 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: Happy2BMe
You actually watch that tripe?

Everything else, no. Lou Dobbs, yes...whether he's being honest or a plant by CNN to look "conservative" is a subject for debate. If he's being honest he belongs on FNC, preferably to replace tabloid lawyer Gretta. He's definitely a fish out of water at CNN.

21 posted on 01/07/2004 4:10:57 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo
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I use to like and respect Bush a lot but I am starting to dislike him even more. Bush is a Liberal, just face it guys. Maybe he isn't as Liberal as Dean and the rest of those idiots but he's still an ignorant Liberal when it comes to domestic issues. That's just a fact.
22 posted on 01/07/2004 4:11:22 PM PST by Conservative_Nationalist (http://www.stopimmigrationnow.org/)
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To: Rebel Coach
A carefully crafted environmental position that included the concerns of hunters and fisherman could even attract my conservative vote.

I'll keep asking.....'what is a conservative'?

23 posted on 01/07/2004 4:12:59 PM PST by Krodg
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To: dawn53
I think there should be recognition that there are jobs that Americans don't want, or let's put it this way, have moved away from.

I think there is work for which employers are unwilling or too cheap to pay for at American wages, and so they resort to breaking the law. (If the market decides that there is a shortage of those willing to dig ditches, the ONLY CONSERVATIVE response should be the free market one of having to pay more to attract those LEGALLY here to do the work)

I think there should be a recognition that anyone who knowingly hires an illegal alien should have his business confiscated under RICO, and his UnAmerican, terrorist supporting butt thrown in jail.

Vote Tancredo in 2004

24 posted on 01/07/2004 4:15:09 PM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Brian_Baldwin
This may be a brilliant move on Dubya's part - come out for a ridiculously lenient immigration plan, then let the hard-core conservatives come out of the woodwork and smack the thing down before it gets two inches off the floor.

He gets the Hispanic vote, and no harm done.
25 posted on 01/07/2004 4:15:24 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Trust but Verify
LOL. I have barely glanced at these threads all day, because I knew what was going to appear on them. And there's really no point in trying to discuss it reasonably, because people who go in for bombast and hyperbole and mistakenly believe that heated speech solves things are simply not interested in discussion.
26 posted on 01/07/2004 4:16:48 PM PST by livius
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To: KantianBurke
BRAVO!!! GREAT POST!!!! You are ABSOLUTELY right!!! He insulted EVERY working American with those words "they will take jobs Americans won't take." It's just that same old sad stupid refrain of "they do jobs Americans won't DO"...he only changed ONE word.
27 posted on 01/07/2004 4:17:39 PM PST by Exodus22 (In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act...George Orwell)
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To: Krodg
'what is a conservative'

Good question.. the lines have been blurred and the conservativews divided against themselves. I said here on FR that I am a paleo-conservative~meaning that I am a traditional conservative as opposed to being a neocon. I had no other meaning by that term other than to remove myself from the 'liberal conservatives' ( IF that makes ANY sense).. I was immediately accused of being a RACIST! Jeezy Louise.. what has happened to conservatism? Just what the 'RATs want.. all of us at each other's throats.

28 posted on 01/07/2004 4:17:43 PM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004 Primary)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
I didn't see the Dobbs program, but am listening to Michael Savage right now. Savage is predicting GWB will lose re-election because of this.

Sean Hannity earlier was decrying GWB's pandering. Neal Boortz is calling the issue Hispandering.

GWB and Rove need to open their eyes and ears. PEOPLE ARE AGAINST THIS. This issue could very well be GWB's equivalent to "read my lips; no new taxes".

If Congress does pass this, and GWB does sign it, GWB will be defeated by apathy and disinterest from his "base". The only hope now is that Congress doesn't pass it.
29 posted on 01/07/2004 4:18:59 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Thats what I think.. Reagan, the god of conservatism also signed an amnesty plan. Something has to be done about illegal immigration and kudos to Bush for talking about it. The 2 most important facts here are that, Bush is just "PROPOSING" and Congress "HAS TO WRITE THE LEGISLATION". In couple of weeks from now, this will be non-news as it sinks with the repb opposition.
30 posted on 01/07/2004 4:19:15 PM PST by futureceo31
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To: Brian_Baldwin
I sometimes have had great difficulty with this POTUS. However, our current way of dealing with illegal aliens is unconscionable. It is unBiblical. And we can do better. Are there Americans clamoring for jobs in the fields of Florida/California/Michigan/etc.? Are there Americans clamoring for jobs in chicken houses in Arkansas/Mississippi/Kentucky/etc.? Or have they been told they're better off accepting a welfare check for a higher amount than they would earn working 60+hours a week? Apparently, there are lots of aliens willing to do the work.
31 posted on 01/07/2004 4:19:23 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Brian_Baldwin
I wonder if the Mexicalli's are going to let me just walk into mexico and take a job. I doubt it!!!
32 posted on 01/07/2004 4:20:59 PM PST by ChristianCrusader
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Dobbs is just pissed that Bush just sowed up a GOP majority for the next 50 years and that the RNC oustmarted the rats yet again.
33 posted on 01/07/2004 4:21:16 PM PST by Rome2000 (Ban "Jihad", not smoking)
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To: ChristianCrusader
Doubt there are any jobs in Mexico that you would want..:)
34 posted on 01/07/2004 4:21:53 PM PST by futureceo31
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To: Trust but Verify
It's quite pointless, I'm afraid, to argue with the 'Deport Illegals' 'Seal the Borders' bumper-sticker crowd. Are these the same people who advocate nuking Mecca and Medina, do you think? Ahh, if only life was that simple and Americans had no sense of proportion. Part of me wishes that I could snap my fingers and have all illegals immediately deported just to show them the utter chaos and economic collapse that would follow. They would probably just whine and scream and blame the ensuing severe economic contraction on someone else though. Because after all, as everyone knows, Pat Buchanan is a wonderfully happy, optimistic patriotic American who has never been wrong and nothing but a resounding success in life.
35 posted on 01/07/2004 4:22:28 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
He gets the Hispanic vote, and no harm done

That is the entire point, but some people are so gullible they'll believe anything.

37 posted on 01/07/2004 4:23:27 PM PST by Rome2000 (Ban "Jihad", not smoking)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Write your Congressman. We've got to stop this.
38 posted on 01/07/2004 4:23:52 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Rome2000
Dobbs is just pissed that Bush just sowed up a GOP majority for the next 50 years and that the RNC oustmarted the rats yet again.

I'm not sure it will work that easily. This will take time. But once again GWB does the unpopular but absolutely correct thing to do, poll numbers be damned.

39 posted on 01/07/2004 4:23:54 PM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: TomGuy
Congress is not going to pass this. This was one of Bush's big things to look at this year and I doubt its going to go through congress. Look at everyone talking about this now and the caucuses are pushed to the back burner... BRILLIANT if I so say myself!!!
40 posted on 01/07/2004 4:24:02 PM PST by futureceo31
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To: cynicom
Bush like so many others that want to serve the country, was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

Things do look different from the ivory towers.

Bush was the "lesser of two evils" (figure of speech). I knew when I voted for him in 2000 that he could pull something like this but Gore would have too, only worst. Its now up to our congressmen and women to put a stop to this nonsense. This is where the battle is going to be fought. Bush has little to fear in 2004 from the rats because they are all so radical and pathic. Its a different story in the congress.

41 posted on 01/07/2004 4:24:20 PM PST by Missouri
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To: RckyRaCoCo
"If he's being honest he belongs on FNC, preferably to replace tabloid lawyer Gretta."

See if you can arrange to have Lou come over to Fox and Gretta return to her liberal roots.

I can see right through Gret every time she opens her mouth.

43 posted on 01/07/2004 4:25:42 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
I actually see good in the immigration plan.

For one, instead of lots of illegals being here, sort of anonymously, with no one knowing who they are, or where they are, we will have a system to "register" them, and I think this could help in our HS issues.

Will it keep out terrorists, probably not because a terrorist doesn't get a job, their means of support comes from their organizations. The people that will be registering are probably going to be hard working people, that desire to be legit, but up to this time have not been able to be.

My husband was a Canadian citizen and held a green card, and I know the hassle it is to deal with the INS (he did become naturalized and is now a US citizen). I also know people avoid the INS because it is such a hassle.

If there were a way to more easily register with the US government (and I'm not sure how the President's plan would work), I'm all for that.

I've heard folks on here who came to this country and "did it legally" saying they are disgusted by the fact that someone would now be able to do it by taking some shortcut. (I think the fact of the matter is they're probably dealing with a big of jealousy, or the old adage, "I pulled myself up by my own bootstraps, so why can't the next guy.")

Well, if they "did it legally", then they know how hard it was to fill out the mounds of paperwork, and record all the dates they've ever been in or out of the country, and produce the "proof" that the INS at present demands.

My husband and I are both college educated, yet we labored for days over the forms, piecing together trips abroad from old passports, etc.

I'm all for a simplification of the system, and any system to keep track of illegal aliens is IMHO better than no system (which is what we have right now.)
44 posted on 01/07/2004 4:26:47 PM PST by dawn53
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To: livius
I agree with you.

There will be people posting rabid rabies dripping sloth all over the place who haven't posted in six months.

Stay safe.

45 posted on 01/07/2004 4:26:53 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: uncbob
Yeah, right. That's why pat buchanon is President today, isn't it?
46 posted on 01/07/2004 4:26:58 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Rome2000
Rush, Hannity and Savage are just pissed that Bush just balkanized the GOP majority for the next 50 years and that the Stupid Party outstrategeried itself yet again.
47 posted on 01/07/2004 4:27:59 PM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Jim Cane
"Balkanized"???
49 posted on 01/07/2004 4:28:39 PM PST by futureceo31
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To: Missouri
I knew when I voted for him in 2000 that he could pull something like this

What did he pull?

The illegals were already here, now he gets their relatives living here legally to vote Republican and puts a stake in the heart of the Democrats in the process.

I'm not quite sure I see the harm in this.

Did you ever imagine that a Democrat president would deport the aliens?

A democrat would have given them citizenship

50 posted on 01/07/2004 4:28:50 PM PST by Rome2000 (Ban "Jihad", not smoking)
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