Plan has 'fatal flaw,' congressman says

Rocky Mountain News ^ | 01/08/04 | Ann Imse and M.E. Sprengelmeyer

[paper avalanche]

Too bad it's unconstitutional, but I would divide California into two states.

LOL okay as long as it's East and West, not North and South. West Cali should consist of all the coastal counties from Los Angeles to San Francisco, plus Santa Clara, Alameda and Contra Costa. East Cali is the rest. I'm ok with that. Just please, please don't make it North and South because both will be truly terrible.

Coming up next, East Cali passes shall-issue conceal-carry law...

[Hoverbug]

If it walks like amnesty and quacks like amnesty, it's amnesty.

Amnesty by any other name would stink as sour. (Apologies to Bill S.)

Don't **** on my head and tell me it's raining.

(I'm working on more)

Hb

[paper avalanche]

If it walks like amnesty and quacks like amnesty, it's amnesty.

Nope. An amnesty is a one-time grant of citizenship or greencard to anyone who's been here for a while, given because they've been here for a while. That is not what's being proposed because (1) it is not a grant of citizenship or greencard (2) it doesn't matter if you've been here for a while, only that you have a qualifying job (3) it's not a one-time thing (4) it doesn't confer a permanent status.

Repeat after me... "temporary worker permit".

Y'all take it easy now, ok?

[paper avalanche]

No MEChA just wants "their" country back.

Turn off the paranoia there for a second. The moonbats at MEChA are a totally fringe group even among hispanics. Nobody wants to recreate Mexico in So Cal, that's what they went here to *get away from* in the first place. What most of them want is to be alloweed to work insanely hard at really sucky jobs so they and their children can have a better life... better in all the ways in which the good ol' US of A is better than Mexico, most of which have nothing to do with economics of welfare or whatever. They like it here just fine the way it is, thank you.

[Hoverbug]

Yeah right, and I'm the King of England.

You go ahead and spin away. Maybe you'll hook the stupid ones.

Next time you get pulled over by a cop, patiently explain to him that you weren't speeding, per say, you were just going faster than the speed limit.

Good luck with that.

Take care,

Hb

[Cultural Jihad]

Needless to say, anyone can equally claim that Tancrepo's opposition to dealing effectively with illegal immigration is just an 'election year ploy.'

[Visalia]

Bush to Americans: "No more illegals."

[Cultural Jihad]

Excellent point. Anyone can point out any fringe nutcase group in order to instill fear in others. People who are afraid are more easily manipulated. Perhaps immigrants are asked to look at the KKK or Nazi Party crackpots and are told that all of America is against them, just as some come around here and point to MEChA or Aztlan as representative of immigrant aspirations. It's all just baloney if it weren't dangerous for the ill will it fosters.

[Happy2BMe]

BUMPING for reference.

[Orbiting_Rosie's_Head]

Umm... Rosie, have you actually looked at how immigrants who have been here for a while or their children vote?

All you gotta do is look at the voting districts that border Mexico. Red districts they ain't. Any % vote toward Republicans, or consertative candidates, that is less than 50% is a net loss, no matter what you say. Besides, looking at illegals as potential voters is an insult to citizens of this nation, a violation of the law, and a reward for law breakers. California's huge budget deficit proves that the border jumpers are large net consumers of welfare and other "free" social services.

There are simple ways to have illegals "self-deport". The easiest is to make it impossible for them to work here through confiscation of Mexican consular cards and huge penalties for employers of illegals, which is already provided for in law and only needs to be enforced.

[american spirit]

Their phones should be smoking by now from having so many phone calls.