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Katherine Harris Planning US Senate Run
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Posted on 01/08/2004 8:42:04 AM PST by Bush Cheney

Edited on 01/08/2004 11:40:39 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Republican Wildcat
Uh-OH, looks like its another Arnold vs McClintock FR fight

Thank God all those Democrats voted for Arnold in California.

Somehow I don't think Harris will be getting a lot of rat votes.

51 posted on 01/08/2004 9:39:29 AM PST by Rome2000 (Ban "Jihad", not smoking)
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To: Republican Wildcat
You're joking, right?

Nope, just ignorant. I know very little about Katherine Harris, I seem to remember that she helped the Bush cause in the last presidential election Florida debacle. So why doesn't the White House want her to run?
52 posted on 01/08/2004 9:39:34 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: dts32041
Bush bots are bing heard from, the current occupant of the Whitehorse can do no wrong in their eyes, much as the klintoon bots so no wrong with the former occupant of the white house.

The validity of the subject matter aside...what does this have to do with the topic of this thread?

53 posted on 01/08/2004 9:40:04 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Well, she does have to win the primary, after all.

I'm sure she will be getting a lot of contributions from Democrats all over the country.

54 posted on 01/08/2004 9:41:40 AM PST by Rome2000 (Ban "Jihad", not smoking)
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To: OneTimeLurker
I think the lefts' line will be:

"This is the woman that put George W. Bush in the White House, she must be destroyed"
55 posted on 01/08/2004 9:42:17 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Sloth
Gotta love a tight t-shirt ... thanks for making the morning move a little faster ..
Ladies: sorry for the chauvanism, but I'd rather be honest than lie to y'all
56 posted on 01/08/2004 9:42:33 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: OneTimeLurker
And when was the last time the left cared about the law?
57 posted on 01/08/2004 9:43:13 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: MindBender26
Mindbender: Where does Joe S fit into all of this? He is still an (R) Powerbroker, and he owns the panhandle. Any word on how he's leaning or who he's backing?
58 posted on 01/08/2004 9:45:31 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Sorry to hear that, if it's true

Was replying to this post, about the wh not being happy with this turn of events.

59 posted on 01/08/2004 9:46:38 AM PST by dts32041 ("Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed" RAH)
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To: Stone Mountain
She didn't "help Bush" beyond enforcing the law as was written. She was ravaged by the press for doing this. She was the most prominent figure in the news during the election fiasco, most of the press being very negative.

In the political sense, she's the equivalent of Hillary on the right as far as being polarizing (unfairly so, I will add, but it's still a fact). Her candidacy could severely damage the President's chances of carrying Florida, and without it, he's probably toast.
60 posted on 01/08/2004 9:47:32 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: MindBender26
I hppe you are right because I agree with your assessment.

I must also renew my complaint that the Republicans are doing a LOUSY job about developing a pipeline of quality candidates. We make so much fun of the RATs and the nine dwarfs fighting amongst themselves. Well, what is going to happen for 2008? It is going to start day one of Bush's next term. I'm afraid the republican senate race for Graham's seat will be the model.

I don't mean to imply we should have an heir-apparent for each office. The idea that it is person x's turn is what gave us Bob Dole. Still, we need to have a leadership plan where we are cycling people through the right experiences to be ready for the next step. Another term or two for KH and she is ready to take on Nelson when he's up for re-election.

61 posted on 01/08/2004 9:49:28 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: OneTimeLurker
She executed the law as she interpreted it. Nothing wrong with that.

That's not in dispute.

62 posted on 01/08/2004 9:51:28 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Sloth
Who is that in the photo in post 8?
63 posted on 01/08/2004 9:54:04 AM PST by Dog (Bin Laden turns up dead or captured in '04!!)
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To: OneTimeLurker
I'm with you.

Conservatives for a moment should stop being "compaaaaaasionate", and grow a damned backbone.

What she did was legally the right thing to do, and what the Democrats tried to do in Florida was clearly an attempt at America's first coup d'etat. They failed. We won. She won. America won.

No apologies. No wavering. She's good enough for the Senate for me.

And if she is running against something Karl Rove is up promoting, that is even more tasty tabasco in the soup for me. Go for it.

64 posted on 01/08/2004 9:55:31 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I argue as passionately on FR against ILLEGAL ALIENS as I would if Gore, not Bush were President.)
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To: dts32041
How is "The Bush bots are here...Bush can do no wrong" and someone expressing disappointment that Harris is entering the race have to do with anything?
65 posted on 01/08/2004 9:55:35 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
I see. Still, has Bush's popularity in Florida gone down after the last election? If not, wouldn't someone who was perceived to help Bush get elected be a positive?
66 posted on 01/08/2004 9:55:59 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: krb
That's not her?
67 posted on 01/08/2004 9:56:54 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Cause the white house doesn't want her to run, she is not Hispanic enough.
68 posted on 01/08/2004 9:58:52 AM PST by dts32041 ("Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed" RAH)
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To: OXENinFLA
Think for how the left will bring up (aka attack) her involvement w/ the 2000 election.

That argument was made in 2002 and look what happened.

69 posted on 01/08/2004 10:01:24 AM PST by McGruff (Borders? We don' need no steenkin' borders!)
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To: Stone Mountain
If not, wouldn't someone who was perceived to help Bush get elected be a positive?

No, but bringing the news of the election debacle back to the forefront (not only in Florida, but nationwide) would not be a plus...at all. She's perceived by many to have abused her office (a lie, but it's still what's out there) to get Bush in office. That's not a positive, no matter how much people like or dislike Bush.

70 posted on 01/08/2004 10:02:06 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: NonValueAdded
We did have a plan for 2008. It was Steve Largent and he screwed up the plan by losing last year.
71 posted on 01/08/2004 10:02:27 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("Howard Dean is incontrovertible proof that God is on Bush's side in the 2004 election"- Dick Morris)
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To: NonValueAdded
We do have Craig Benson in the 2008 pipe line.
72 posted on 01/08/2004 10:04:04 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("Howard Dean is incontrovertible proof that God is on Bush's side in the 2004 election"- Dick Morris)
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To: Reagan Man
In a Harris-Martinez-McCollum primary (they're the three most likely to compete), I'd go with Harris.

Reason? The Democratic base will be energized by presumtpive nominee Howard Dean. Harris will mobilize our base just as much. Mel Martinez can then take this primary as a dry run for governor to succeed Jeb Bush.
73 posted on 01/08/2004 10:04:12 AM PST by hchutch (Why did the Nazgul run from Arwen's flash flood? All they managed to do was to end up dying tired.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Funny how the statistics don't back you up one bit. Tell those friends/voices in high places they're betting wrong on this fine lady

What statistics? References, please, because if they were valid numbers, we would be using them.

There is no though that Katherine is not a fine woman. I have spent enough time with her and her husband to know that. That is not the issue. The issue is wether or not she is the candidate most likely to win the Senate race in Florida, and to what extent she would help or hurt the President's reelection efforts.

She truly is a fine woman. Mel, Bill, Dr. Dave and Dan are all fine men. This is simply not her time. It will come.

74 posted on 01/08/2004 10:06:20 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: Bush Cheney
We have no idea what kind of senator she would make because we have no idea what kind of congresswoman she is.

However, it is never a good idea to ramp up the opposition and you can count on Harris doing just that, jeopardizing other republicans on the ticket.

75 posted on 01/08/2004 10:06:50 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: dts32041
That still has nothing to do with that post. Input from the White House is irrelevant for political analysis of this situation.
76 posted on 01/08/2004 10:07:22 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: MindBender26
What statistics? References, please, because if they were valid numbers, we would be using them.

The statistics show that she actually did better with voters in her congressional district than Bush did when he ran in 2000. That's hardly someone who voters run from.

77 posted on 01/08/2004 10:08:54 AM PST by ClintonBeGone
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To: Republican Wildcat
That still has nothing to do with that post. Input from the White House is irrelevant for political analysis of this situation.

In the world of Realpolitic, completely incorrect. Association with, linkage with, and campaigning with a sitting president, in a battleground state, is critical.

78 posted on 01/08/2004 10:09:38 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: Bush Cheney

FL GOP poll

Harris 24%
McCollum 23%
Crist 19%
Mel 6%
Byrd 3%
Webster 2%
Todd 1%
Larry <1%
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harris 27% v McCollum 24% McCollum 29% v mel 11% -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vs Rat *Castor 42 v Harris 37% *Castor 35 v Martinez, 32% *Castor 36 v McCollum 35% *Crist 41% V Castor 35 % http://www.wesh.com/politics/2664621/detail.html

79 posted on 01/08/2004 10:10:32 AM PST by KQQL (^@__*^)
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To: jern
No, not good at all. I like Harris, but she could not only lose the seat, but bring down Bush in the process.

I'm in the ABH camp in that primary. = Anybody but Harris.

80 posted on 01/08/2004 10:10:46 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: OneTimeLurker
If you are sane, you will agree that Katherine Harris was doing her job.

The left and their cohorts in the media are NOT sane.

We live in the real world and sometimes that means not insisting on your way.

81 posted on 01/08/2004 10:12:27 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Wrong answer, the whorehouse and what it wants is very important to this situation, that is why Mel Martinez, is there, he is the white house pick.
82 posted on 01/08/2004 10:12:50 AM PST by dts32041 ("Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed" RAH)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
No apologies. No wavering. She's good enough for the Senate for me.

The problem is, It's not our votes she needs. She would need the votes of the indeopendents and undecideds, and she would not do well there.

She ran and won in a heavilly R district. Good.

Statewide is very different.

83 posted on 01/08/2004 10:12:58 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: Bush Cheney
It's too soon for her. She can wait for 2006.
84 posted on 01/08/2004 10:13:31 AM PST by petercooper (DEAN = Democrats Experiencing Another Nightmare)
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To: Sloth
I would vote for her.
85 posted on 01/08/2004 10:14:10 AM PST by bmwcyle (Monica's Mom "Trust but keep verification in the closet")
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To: MindBender26
Keep in mind, Bush was picking up a lot of support, and the Dems can't raise too much about Florida - they have TONS of dirt there, too. Tossing out military votes, for instance.

Give that Howard Dean at the top of the Dem ticket will have an excited left-wing base, Harris would excite conservatives a lot more than McCollum or Martinez and help even the odds. Given the Dems tries in `02 and failed, I think she'd win.

All three of them (Harris, Martinez, and McCollum) would be good Senators, and any of the three would get my vote as the nominee.
86 posted on 01/08/2004 10:18:29 AM PST by hchutch (Why did the Nazgul run from Arwen's flash flood? All they managed to do was to end up dying tired.)
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To: MindBender26
I think you may have misunderstood my post...or perhaps I didn't word it clearly. In either case, my point was that we can come up with our own analysis without Rove's input or lack thereof. Most of us questioned the wisdom of such a run before Rove's supposed feelings on the subject were known.
87 posted on 01/08/2004 10:20:36 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: ClintonBeGone
Sorry, but that is not a statistic you use to predict a statewide race.

In Realpolitic, one of the first things you look at is their Q rating. That is the percentage of people who know them who like them, minus two and a half times the number of people who know them and dislike them. Katherine does very poorly here STATEWIDE.

Another viable test is the Dollar Driver Scale. You get a percentage of voters who would GIVE MONEY to see her elected, vs those who would GIVE MONEY to see her opponent elected. (You are not actually looking for money here, just the depth of commitment.) Again, she fairs very poorly in this STATEWIDE.

Finally, you poll voters and ask if they are in favor/opposed to her "slightly or an average amount or a huge amount?" Again, she does poorly here, with those who oppose her doing so with great vigor.

A great lady. Not this race; not this time.
88 posted on 01/08/2004 10:20:53 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: MindBender26
I think you may have misunderstood my post...or perhaps I didn't word it clearly. In either case, my point was that we can come up with our own analysis with Rove's input or lack thereof. Most of us questioned the wisdom of such a run before Rove's supposed feelings on the subject were known.
89 posted on 01/08/2004 10:21:32 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: MindBender26
The Prez needs more votes than the Republicans.

In the aftermath of the campaign finance reform, Medicare prescription drug entitlement, and guest worker amnesty-by-installment debacles, he certainly does.

But Rove's fronting Mel Martinez for the Senate is race-based politics pure and simple. While Martinez may be well qualified, I seriously doubt that Rove would be pushing his candidacy if he were not Hispanic.

90 posted on 01/08/2004 10:22:36 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: hchutch
It will be a Bush v. Hillary race, and will go 50%/49%
91 posted on 01/08/2004 10:22:44 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: dts32041
Wrong answer, the whorehouse and what it wants is very important to this situation, that is why Mel Martinez, is there, he is the white house pick.

The White House wants Mel Martinez to run--no kidding. That's why he resigned his cabinet post. Yippee kay yay yo yippe ay. That's still doesn't demonstrate how your post was a relevant response.

92 posted on 01/08/2004 10:26:33 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Nope. Some sort of campaign worker I think.
93 posted on 01/08/2004 10:27:16 AM PST by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: KQQL
Thanks for posting those numbers. Clarifies the situation.
94 posted on 01/08/2004 10:29:36 AM PST by B Knotts (Go 'Nucks!)
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To: Kevin Curry
But Rove's fronting Mel Martinez for the Senate is race-based politics pure and simple

It is far beyond that.

Here in Florida, you need to run 5 races.

1, Hispanic South Florida,
2, The East Coast Jewish Condo Commandos
3, Industrial Tampa and Jax
4, I-75 to I-4 to I-95, Naples to Orlando and north (outside Tampa and Jax.)
5, The Redneck Riviera (west of Jax to LA, or what we call Lower Alabama; I-10 all the way to Pensacola.

Mel wins 4 of the 5, losing only the Condo Commandos.

He wins.

95 posted on 01/08/2004 10:30:43 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: MindBender26
He wins with 10% of the vote?
96 posted on 01/08/2004 10:31:47 AM PST by B Knotts (Go 'Nucks!)
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To: MindBender26
But Jeb Bush was also dealing with the same allegations as well. The margin was larger than 50-49, IIRC.

It would be close, I agree. A 52/47 race. Given Jeb Bush's presence in `02, given the fact the Rats were just as dirty there, and the fact that she took a strong stand for doing her job, I think she comes out on top of that matchup. But it would require a lot of resources.

Again, the big concern is the number of activists Dean could generate for the other side. He's got a big direct-donor list, and he has excited their base. It would not hurt to have ours excited down in Florida after the last race.

I would like to emphasize that all three of the major names would be good Senators, and each have valid points in their favor. McCollum has a statewide race under his belt, albeit he lost it. Martinez would probably have a solid win, and he does provide a high profile for future elections, although I'd have him for 2006, since the sixth-year elections for two-term Presidents tend to be rough. Katherine Harris excites the activists, which would even the odds against Howard Dean's activists.

Furthermore, all would be good Senators. No need to get in srious arguments over this.
97 posted on 01/08/2004 10:33:31 AM PST by hchutch (Why did the Nazgul run from Arwen's flash flood? All they managed to do was to end up dying tired.)
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To: B Knotts
What are you talking about?
98 posted on 01/08/2004 10:34:14 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: KQQL
Crist is running the strongest for a general election contest...who is that? No surprise the Dem is the strongest against a matchup with Harris.

The way Harris is described in the article is exactly why this would be bad news...and that description is probably quite charitiable compared to what would come down the road.

99 posted on 01/08/2004 10:35:58 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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