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Bush's Ridiculous Speech About Immigration Reform
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Posted on 01/08/2004 1:10:01 PM PST by Happy2BMe

Bush's Ridiculous Speech About Immigration Reform

I just want to comment on a few of the things that jumped out at me as I read the text of Bush's speech about the horrendous new immigration legislation he is going to propose.

To begin with, this line just chaps me...

"As a nation that values immigration and depends on immigration, we should have immigration laws that work and make us proud. Yet today we do not."

No, our immigration laws don't work or make us proud. You know why? Because we don't make an effort to enforce them. It's like telling your kid to clean his room, having him watch TV instead, and then having him look you in the eye and say, "you know the system we're using to get my room cleaned up just isn't working".

Here's more from Bush...

"Many undocumented workers have walked mile after mile, through the heat of the day and the cold of the night. Some have risked their lives in dangerous desert border crossings or entrusted their lives to the brutal rings of heartless human smugglers.

BUSH: Workers who seek only to earn a living end up in the shadows of American life, fearful, often abused and exploited.

When they're victimized by crimes they're afraid to call the police or seek recourse in the legal system. They are cut off from their families far away, fearing if they leave our country to visit relatives back home they might never be able to return to their jobs."

Yes, that's pretty much what happens to criminals everywhere isn't it? I mean even though a drug dealer works hard and does dangerous work, he can't very well call the police and tell them someone stole his crack can he? Of course, if he were in an honest profession or if the illegal aliens obeyed our laws, they wouldn't have this problem would they?

Then Bush tosses off this whopper about the border...

"First, America must control its borders. Following the attacks of September the 11th, 2001, this duty of the federal government has become even more urgent, and we're fulfilling that duty."

No, the government isn't "fulfilling that duty". We still have illegals, drug dealers, and probably terrorists pouring across our border because the Bush administration even after 9/11, will not commit the necessary resources and manpower to get the job done.

Then this paragraph begs an obvious question...

"Employers must not hire undocumented aliens or temporary workers whose legal status has expired. They must report to the government the temporary workers they hire and who leave their employ so that we can keep track of people in the program and better enforce our immigration laws. There must be strong workplace enforcement with tough penalties for anyone -- for any employer violating these laws."

...and that question is, "why can't we go ahead and do that NOW"? If we did this today, most of the people who are here illegally would go home because they couldn't find jobs. So why do we have to wait until after we've made all these illegals who don't respect our laws into citizens to do this?

Then there's this...

"The citizenship line, however, is too long, and our current limits on legal immigration are too low.

My administration will work with the Congress to increase the annual number of green cards that can lead to citizenship."

Our population is growing as it is and isn't unemployment higher than we'd like as it is? So why do we want to INCREASE the number of people flooding into our country legally?

Last but not least, Bush hit this theme several times...

"Reform must begin by confronting a basic fact of life and economics: Some of the jobs being generated in America's growing economy are jobs American citizens are not filling."

As Mark Krikorian explained in yesterday's National Review, those jobs would be filled by Americans if the illegals weren't driving down wages.

Does that not make perfect sense? I mean people get all up in arms about companies going overseas to get cheap labor, but when the cheap labor COMES HERE, those same people just assume that Americans "won't do those jobs". Sure they will, just not at the same price.

I can only hope that Congress fights Bush all the way on this bill and stops it cold. Giving illegal aliens legal status is only going to cause even more of them to flood across our borders to fill up our prisons, our schools, and leech off of our social services. Our government should be doing everything in its power to stop them instead of rewarding them for breaking our laws.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; foreignoccupation; illegalmexicans; immigrationreform; invasion; nationalinsecurity; nationalsuicide; plunder; plunderamericans; plunderusa; thenannystate; thewelfarestate; welfarestate
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To: hunter112
I've posted in the past that I believe there should be a "guest worker" program

We already have 4 types of guest worker program's and one of them is for agricultural. That is why this whole deal bunk.

81 posted on 01/08/2004 2:52:15 PM PST by org.whodat (Someone turn Bush over he's done.)
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To: theFIRMbss
>>To my eyes, by far,
most immigrants are decent
and play by the rules.
<<

You mean most *illegal* immigrants play by the rules? Is this what you mean? Surely I'm misunderstanding.
82 posted on 01/08/2004 2:55:24 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: Richard-SIA
"And yes, I am attending my local republican party precinct meeting tonight."

I await a full report (honestly).

The timing is perfect - please let us know what the general consensus on this is.

Grass roots BUMP!

84 posted on 01/08/2004 2:57:17 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: international american
"Ever try to turn in an illegal? Ever try to call the cops when you witnessed phony ss and dl lic? You are the criminal, and you are under scrutiny."

I know what you mean but the truth of the matter is that the County Sheriff is the highest law officer within any given county. If he doesn't arrest illegals and hold them until the INS comes and picks them up, he is negligent in his duties as sheriff. The residents of the county should demand that he do his duty.

85 posted on 01/08/2004 3:00:39 PM PST by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: international american
What has any of this to do with the abject failure of conservatism to solve the problem. Saying . . . I can't turn anyone in because then I am suspected of being a criminal . . . that's just further looking to the government to solve a problem.

There is no escaping this. Our extremists are posturing in self righteous anger because, while they spend most of their time posting about their distaste for government action, they didn't hear Bush announce a greater magnitude of government action.

Think of how absurd this logic is.

86 posted on 01/08/2004 3:00:40 PM PST by Owen
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To: RolandBurnam
A great speech, a great idea, a great president.
87 posted on 01/08/2004 3:01:26 PM PST by zook
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To: RolandBurnam
I think this is a master stroke... might win new mexico, arizona and give him a chance in caleeeforneea ... at least he is on offense!

On the contrary, it reminds me of the final years of the Roman Empire, which increasingly relied on non-Romans. The result will be the same.

88 posted on 01/08/2004 3:02:33 PM PST by arm958
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To: Tempest
I'm also curious as to how the American farming industry would recover from the major wage increases it would face when it had to pay average citizens higher wages plus benefits

A guest farm worker program has been in effect for years. These illegals are not farm workers. Do you really know the issue?

89 posted on 01/08/2004 3:02:57 PM PST by org.whodat (Someone turn Bush over he's done.)
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To: Stallone
>>3. Bear down HARD on the remaining illegals, and begin to treat them as that: ILLEGAL. Without remorse and without shame, get rid of them.<<

Do you honestly think this is the goal, when the laws we ALREADY HAVE are not being enforced? I don't see it happening. Maybe I'm wrong.
90 posted on 01/08/2004 3:04:14 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: arm958
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On the contrary, it reminds me of the final years of the Roman Empire, which increasingly relied on non-Romans. The result will be the same.
>

What does this mean? America by genetic management?
91 posted on 01/08/2004 3:04:44 PM PST by Owen
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To: Owen
Owen, I will presume that you are a decent person. But if you live in California you know damn well what i AM TALKING ABOUT.
92 posted on 01/08/2004 3:06:05 PM PST by international american (support our troops.........revoke Hillary's visa!!)
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To: Happy2BMe
He lost my vote.
93 posted on 01/08/2004 3:06:40 PM PST by aomagrat (IYAOYAS)
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To: SerpentDove
> >>3. Bear down HARD on the remaining illegals, and begin to treat them as that: ILLEGAL. Without remorse and without shame, get rid of them.<<

Do you honestly think this is the goal, when the laws we ALREADY HAVE are not being enforced? I don't see it happening. Maybe I'm wrong. >

What does this mean? Is this another outcry at the horror of allowing a human born in the US to be a citizen, as opposed to undoing that law and managing the population on the basis of genetics?

This would trash all respect for US territoriatlity. Humans born here are Americans. Shipping Americans south and condemning them to 3rd world care is as unAmerican a thing as can be imagined.

Way too many people here are trying to elect a Democrat.

94 posted on 01/08/2004 3:07:48 PM PST by Owen
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To: Happy2BMe; Spiff
No, our immigration laws don't work or make us proud. You know why? Because we don't make an effort to enforce them. It's like telling your kid to clean his room, having him watch TV instead, and then having him look you in the eye and say, "you know the system we're using to get my room cleaned up just isn't working".

Excellent analogy. Using an abundance of words, Bush essentially backed down from enforcing the law (current visa requirements).

95 posted on 01/08/2004 3:08:24 PM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: AmericanInTokyo
>> I'll bet local law enforcement is wondering, what the heck do we do now with illegals that we catch.<<

I don't know what it's like where you live, but local law enforcement here is actually prohibited from getting involved with immigration issues. They can pull someone over who is an illegal, and cannot report them to INS. I kid you not.

This is absolute insanity. Anyone who says that the laws are being enforced doesn't know what they are talking about.
96 posted on 01/08/2004 3:10:24 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: PuNcH
bravo
97 posted on 01/08/2004 3:11:36 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Happy2BMe
"Pandering at the expense of security".

-- Michael Savage

98 posted on 01/08/2004 3:12:27 PM PST by sigarms
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
In other words, the
we are getting here is based on the
we got a long time ago!

Great post, now I see how some here in Nevada can contend that the
that Nevada got when the Lincoln administration made Nevada's surrender of her public lands a condition of statehood is constitutional.

They simply engage in the same sort of selective memory you have illustrated.
99 posted on 01/08/2004 3:13:43 PM PST by Richard-SIA (Nuke the U.N!)
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To: Richard-SIA
Thanks for info.
100 posted on 01/08/2004 3:14:38 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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