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1 posted on 01/09/2004 10:20:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 01/09/2004 10:22:37 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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3 posted on 01/09/2004 10:23:40 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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“I am sure the governor clearly understands his position,” said Liz Boyd, spokeswoman for Granholm. “She would hope that he would understand hers as well.”


And her position is, that as a Democrat, there will be hell to pay if she votes against abortion. After all, she can't risk her job.

I am constantly amazed at people who say they are Catholics and yet don't seem to understand or approve of Catholic doctrine at all. There are plenty of faiths that allow abortion, for goodness sake they should go out and find one.

But stop calling themselves Catholic, because they aren't.
4 posted on 01/09/2004 10:26:36 PM PST by I still care
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Catholics and Politicians -- some other references:

The Deadly Dozen

Canadian Prime Minister Taunts Church: "I Am A Catholic And For Abortion"
Catholic Church asks Tom Daschle to stop calling himself a Catholic
On Catholic Politicians and Faith
Vatican Urges Catholic Politicians to Vote Along Church Lines
Senator Santorum on Being Catholic and a Politician
William E. Simon, Sr. and Jr. Devout Catholics, Philanthropists and Politicians
Deadly Dozen senator taken to task over claims of Catholicism
THE BISHOP AND THE SENATOR [author links to FR thread regarding Daschle in her online column]
Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians
MI Gov Granholm Proclaims June "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month"
Colorado Governor To Media:'WE LOVE OUR CHURCH' [Gov. Bill Owens
U.S. Senator Brownback and Commentator Dick Morris Join Catholic Church
PRIEST REFUSES COMMUNION TO KNEELING PRO-LIFE POLITICIAN [Richard Black, Virginia]
Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights
Pope to MPs: Stop gay marriage
Vatican - Considerations regarding ... homosexual persons
CONFUSIONS ABOUT POLITICAL JUDGMENT AND THE MORAL LAW
Prelate says politicians who back abortion shouldn't go to Communion
Bishop draws fire for targeting Chrétien
Kennedy likens Vatican stance on gay unions to 'bigotry' (oh, go get a job, you little creep)
Ignorance or Malicious Intent? "No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to..."
George Weigel on Authentic Catholic Citizenship, and the Duty of Catholic Politicians to Behave as Catholics
Conservative Catholics urge Church to challenge "dissenters"
[Robert F., Jr.] Kennedy to speak at Festival of Faiths (Environmentalism as religion)
Faithful Catholic Politicians
Catholic Bishops Eye Possible Crackdown of Pro-Abortion Pols
PETITION TO EX-COMMUNICATE PRO-ABORTION CATHOLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS
It is Time to Excommunicate the Politicians
Church vows to fight gay marriage: Catholics pressure pols
Should politicians toe their church line?
Church May Penalize Politicans
Catholic politicians facing dogmatic threat
Bishop appeals to Catholic lawmakers [Wisconsin]
New St. Louis Catholic Archbishop Warns Pro-Abortion Catholic Politicians of Excommunication.
Bishop Objected to AIDS Walk
Wisconsin Catholic Lawmakers Seek Victim Status In Feud With Bishop
Bishop Burke discusses the letters he sent to Catholic politicians
Congressman Places Internal Pro-Abortion Docs in Congressional Record
Flynn: Dems ignore Catholics
Granholm gay rights order "a slap in the face"
Calif. Bishop To Gov. Davis: Pick Abortion Or Communion [formal excommunication?]
California Bishop to Gov: Oppose Abortion or No Communion (New Title)
Sacramento Bishop Challenges Governor on Abortion; Tells Davis to Stop Receiving Communion
Granholm's Bible-thumping Sure to Rile GOP
Bishop: No Communion for Abortion Backers
Legislators can't have Eucharist, bishop says: Don't serve supporters of abortion rights, euthanasia
Wisc. Bishop Tells Pro-Abort. Catholic Pols: Change Your Stripes or Stay Away from Holy Communion
Diocese targets Granholm on abortion

6 posted on 01/09/2004 10:32:14 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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A bump for cardinal Maida!
7 posted on 01/09/2004 10:32:55 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

13 posted on 01/09/2004 10:45:54 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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Right to Life of Michigan
14 posted on 01/09/2004 10:48:43 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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as a pro-choice catholic,jennifer granholm believes in the santicity of a minority life,but as a politician she will not foist her beliefs on others....since all white liberals,white democrats,white feminists,ku klux klan,and black leaders want to kill off all the minority babies,she is more than happy to oblige.....she would NEVER,NEVER,NEVER foist her beliefs on them....
21 posted on 01/10/2004 5:22:33 AM PST by fishbabe
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How is that opposing Granholm?

When my Catholic grandfather married my Lutheran grandmother, he was publically excommunicated, his name read out in church in front of his mother and his cousins.

Why don't they do the same to this baby-killer?

And what does it mean that she is a "pro-choice Catholic"?

Isn't that impossible?

22 posted on 01/10/2004 5:26:54 AM PST by Jim Noble
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“Please ... help preserve the greatest treasure God has given us, the gift of life itself,” Maida said in a letter to be read during Masses in Metro Detroit and 500 churches throughout the state.

Thank you, Cardinal Maida, for acting on your faith!

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


26 posted on 01/10/2004 8:41:10 AM PST by NYer
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As a pro-choice Catholic

No such thing.
32 posted on 01/10/2004 9:45:59 AM PST by Delphinium
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Looks kinda like the Bishop Burke Flu is catching among the RC Ordinaries.

This is a nice move on Maida's part, without going quite to the position that Burke took. Of course, that's always in the quiver...

If you stop to think about this, the campaign is very well-organized and strategically elegant.

Daschle's Bishop tells Daschle to stop calling himself "Catholic" in campaign lit.

Burke explicitly denies Communion to active pro-abort legislators.

Maida goes with initiative referendum to over-ride a serious threat to human life.

All spaced out in time with PLENTY of time for the actions to 'sink in' ...

Methinks there's more to come, like open 'excommunication' letters.

TORQUEMADA LIVES!!!! LONG LIVE TORQUEMADA!!!!
33 posted on 01/10/2004 9:55:11 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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Stop Granholm
52 posted on 01/10/2004 6:55:36 PM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas, Jesus is the Reason for the Season, Keep Christ in CHRISTmas and the X's out of it.)
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