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Safire: 'Spinning Into Control'
The New York Times ^ | 01/12/04 | William Safire

Posted on 01/11/2004 7:50:58 PM PST by Pokey78

The strategic reason for crushing Saddam was to reverse the tide of global terror that incubated in the Middle East.

Is our pre-emptive policy working? Was the message sent by ousting the Baathists as well as the Taliban worth the cost?

Set aside the tens of thousands of lives saved each year by ending Saddam's sustained murder of Iraqi Shia and Kurds, which is of little concern to human rights inactivists. Consider only self-defense: the practical impact of American action on the spread of dangerous weaponry in antidemocratic hands.

1. In Libya, Colonel Qaddafi took one look at our army massing for the invasion of Iraq and decided to get out of the mass-destruction business. He has since stopped lying to gullible U.N. inspectors and — in return for U.S. investment instead of invasion — promises civilized behavior. The notion that this terror-supporting dictator's epiphany was not the direct result of our military action, but of decade-long diplomatic pleas for goodness and mercy, is laughable.

2. In Afghanistan, supposedly intractable warlords in a formerly radical Islamist, female-repressing culture of conflicting tribes and languages have come together. Under our NATO security umbrella and with some U.N. guidance, a grand conclave of leaders freed by U.S. power surprised the Arab world's doubting despots with the elements of a constitution that leads the way out of the past generation's abyss of barbarism.

3. In Syria, a hiding place for Saddam's finances, henchmen and weaponry — and exporter of Hezbollah and Hamas terrorism — Dictator Bashar al-Assad is nervously seeking to re-open negotiations with Israel to regain strategic heights his father lost in the last Syrian aggression. Secret talks have already begun (I suspect through Turkey, Israel's Muslim friend, rather than the unfriendly European Union); this would not have happened while Saddam was able to choke off illicit oil shipments to Syria.

4. On the West Bank, incipient Israeli negotiations with Syria — on top of the overthrow of the despot who rewarded Palestinian suicide bombers — further isolates the terror organizations behind Yasir Arafat. Under the pressure of Israel's security fence, and without the active support of Egypt and Saudi Arabia (each eager to retain protection of a strong-willed Bush administration), Palestinians now have incentives to find an antiterrorist leader who can deliver statehood.

5. In Iran, the presence of 130,000 U.S. troops near the border was not lost on the despot-clerics in power, who suddenly seemed reasonable to European diplomats seeking guarantees that Russian-built nuclear plants would be inspected. Colin Powell has been secretly dickering with the so-called reform ayatollah for a year in hopes of being on the right side of a future revolution. The old "Great Satan" crowd has just barred four-score reformist Parliament members from seeking re-election. That panicky crackdown in Teheran is a sign of the rulers' weakness; the example of freedom in neighboring Iraq will help cause another part of the axis to fall.

6. In Iraq, where casualties in Baghdad could be compared to civilian losses to everyday violence in New York and Los Angeles, a rudimentary federal republic is forming itself with all the customary growing pains. After the new Iraq walks by itself, we can expect free Iraqis to throw their crutches at the doctor. But we did not depose Saddam to impose a puppet; we are helping Iraqis defeat the diehards and resist fragmentation to set in place a powerful democratic example.

7. In North Korea, a half-world away from that example, an unofficial U.S. group was shown nuclear fuel facilities at Yongbyon to demonstrate that the world faced a real threat. But the U.S. has given China to understand that nuclear-armed Pyongyang would lead to missile defenses in Japan and Taiwan, a potential challenge to China's Asian hegemony. Our new credibility is leading China to broker an enforceable agreement like the kind Libya has offered, with economic sweeteners tightly tied to verification.

The columnist Jim Hoagland cautions that it is too early to proclaim that nonproliferation is "spinning into control." But taken together, this phased array of fallout to our decision to lead the world's war against terror makes the case that what we have been doing is strategically sound as well as morally right. 


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrine; williamsafire

1 posted on 01/11/2004 7:50:59 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
What you said, Bill.
2 posted on 01/11/2004 7:58:10 PM PST by 185JHP ( Freedom is my favorite word for "nothing left to prove.")
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To: All
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3 posted on 01/11/2004 7:58:40 PM PST by Support Free Republic (If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened!)
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To: Pokey78; Ragtime Cowgirl; Calpernia; PhiKapMom
SAfire: ".....our decision to lead the world's war against terror makes the case that what we have been doing is strategically sound as well as morally right."

PING

4 posted on 01/11/2004 7:59:06 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: Pokey78
Great list.
5 posted on 01/11/2004 8:00:41 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: Pokey78
In the words of the the late great Jackie Gleason, "How sweet it is!"
6 posted on 01/11/2004 8:02:04 PM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: HAL9000
"Great list."

So it is. And, at that, Safire left off the emerging rapprochement between Pakistan and India.

7 posted on 01/11/2004 8:08:06 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: Pokey78
6. In Iraq, where casualties in Baghdad could be compared to civilian losses to everyday violence in New York and Los Angeles...

I liked the article but hated that line. We should never compare the sacrifices of volunteer soldiers to the victims of chaos in our cities, many of whom are themselves perpetrators of that chaos. Besides, what city in the USA with population 130,000 has the losses of our units in Iraq? It sounds more like the author is saying "in the big scheme of things, there aren't that many getting killed, and, like in big cities, they're no one I know".

8 posted on 01/11/2004 8:21:15 PM PST by dagnabbit (Tell Bush what to do with his Amnesty & Global Labor Pool - Write in Tancredo in the Primary)
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To: dagnabbit
There is no connection between accident statistics and war losses. BUT Bill Safire is saying what no politician has the courage to say. In the context of conquering and rebuilding a nation of tens of milllion people, the casualties are low and are no threat to the greater security mission.
9 posted on 01/11/2004 8:31:24 PM PST by Williams
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To: okie01
...rapprochement between Pakistan and India.

You mean between India and the Pakistani Army. So far it has had the sense to see the danger of Mullah control.

10 posted on 01/11/2004 8:34:19 PM PST by RobbyS (XPqu)
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To: dagnabbit
It depends on where you are. The people out of Ft. Campbell have tajen a hit, lsoing more than 50 dead and several times that number woounded. But so far my son's squadron has had only one fatality. Good willing ot stays that way, but this IS dangerous work, after all, and everyone knows it.
11 posted on 01/11/2004 8:38:29 PM PST by RobbyS (XPqu)
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To: Pokey78
Someone in the media actually gets it. What a surprise.
12 posted on 01/11/2004 8:40:48 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader-Have you donated yet?)
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To: JulieRNR21
The strategic reason for crushing Saddam was to reverse the tide of global terror that incubated in the Middle East. -William Safire

Thank you, Bill. It warms the heart to read this searing truth in the "newspaper of record."

13 posted on 01/11/2004 8:48:54 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: RobbyS
All the best to you and your son. Is that a Cav unit of some kind?

Two of my former roommates got back about two months ago. We met up at the Army-Navy game last month. It was great to see them back. They'd been in Iraq since the start in a psyops unit (commander and XO). All over the place moving with the Marines. Nobody in the unit got hurt.

14 posted on 01/11/2004 9:01:16 PM PST by dagnabbit (Tell Bush what to do with his Amnesty & Global Labor Pool - Write in Tancredo in the Primary)
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To: Pokey78
"7. In North Korea, a half-world away from that example, an unofficial U.S. group was shown nuclear fuel facilities at Yongbyon to demonstrate that the world faced a real threat. But the U.S. has given China to understand that nuclear-armed Pyongyang would lead to missile defenses in Japan and Taiwan, a potential challenge to China's Asian hegemony. Our new credibility is leading China to broker an enforceable agreement like the kind Libya has offered, with economic sweeteners tightly tied to verification. "


This is pretty much spin on the author's part. NKorea isn't backing down anywhere on nukes, and will never give them up under the current regime.
15 posted on 01/11/2004 9:06:50 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Pokey78
WOW.

Safire hits it out of the park. Love this line ...

"Set aside the tens of thousands of lives saved each year by ending Saddam's sustained murder of Iraqi Shia and Kurds, which is of little concern to human rights inactivists."

He has laid to rest, in a pithy column, all the criticisms of the Iraq war. It was the Right Thing To Do!

Bookmarked for history!
16 posted on 01/11/2004 9:06:51 PM PST by WOSG (I dont want the GOP to become a circular firing squad and the Socialist Democrats a majority.)
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To: dagnabbit
Thanks. 2nd Cav. He was a newly minted 2nd L.T. just out of armor school at Knox. when they deployed from Polk. They are due to rotate in April, return to Polk and convert to Strykers. He hated Knox (he did get a top gun award!) and actually likes Iraq better. The real deal, you know. But I am praying for him to get out of harm's way. Relatively. The IEDs are scary, but the Iraqis can't shoot straight, and those damn machines are dangerous to operate.
17 posted on 01/11/2004 9:10:04 PM PST by RobbyS (XPqu)
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To: Pokey78
bttttt
18 posted on 01/11/2004 9:10:17 PM PST by ellery
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To: RobbyS
> my son's squadron

Please accept my thanks, and pass them to your son.
19 posted on 01/11/2004 9:43:54 PM PST by old-ager
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To: old-ager
Sure enough.
20 posted on 01/11/2004 9:53:54 PM PST by RobbyS (XPqu)
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To: dagnabbit
I liked the article but hated that line.

Allow me to make one comment. I think the line is appropriate. Not due to insensitivity to the supreme sacrifice that some soldiers have made, but by way of evaluating the comments on the left that Bush failed to plan for and win the Peace. This is all while the US Cities controlled by Democrats (including) Washington DC have repeatedly failed to plan for and win the Peace. During the same period we lost troops, they have had more people murdered in each of their cities. It is all too bad, but the point that should not be lost is that it is the Democrats that accuse Bush of what they are guilty of here.

I think in a reasonable amount of time it will get better in Iraq, but I'll bet that it only gets worse in these Cities.

21 posted on 01/11/2004 10:44:16 PM PST by scannell
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To: Pokey78
Where's the "I'm deeply saddened" picture of dasshole?
22 posted on 01/11/2004 10:50:17 PM PST by paul51
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To: dagnabbit
I liked the article but hated that line. We should never compare the sacrifices of volunteer soldiers to the victims of chaos in our cities, many of whom are themselves perpetrators of that chaos.

He's making a fair and important point. As serious and deadly a business war is, we're fighting it phenomenally well and safe. We're taking good care of our troops, and they are taking great care of themselves. That's something to cheer.

He means no disrespect to those who hae died.

23 posted on 01/11/2004 10:55:59 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: scannell
This is all while the US Cities controlled by Democrats (including) Washington DC have repeatedly failed to plan for and win the Peace. During the same period we lost troops, they have had more people murdered in each of their cities. It is all too bad, but the point that should not be lost is that it is the Democrats that accuse Bush of what they are guilty of here.

Perceptive comment. Here are the various muder rates, per a December 29, 2003 article in the New York Post:

New York ----------- 7 murders per 100,000
Boston ------------- 10 murders per 100,000
Los Angeles ------- 17 murders per 100,000
Philadelphia ------- 19 murders per 100,000
Chicago ------------ 22 murders per 100,000
Washington,DC --- 46 murders per 100,000

Baghdad (July) ---- 19.5 murders per 100,000
Baghdad (Oct.) ----- 5.0 murders per 100,000

Bless our military and their Iraqi allies for the job they are doing.

In the US, Giuliani showed the way, but the Dems lag far behind.

24 posted on 01/12/2004 6:18:44 AM PST by OESY
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To: OESY
Great Numbers!

I pray for our troops every Sunday, and wish them all a safe return, but these numbers will raise some eyebrows when used against a liberal sprouting off about losses in Iraq.

I would love those numbers to turn to 0 per 100,000.

My gratitude to our troops and their families.

Best Regards

Sergio
25 posted on 01/12/2004 2:28:05 PM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: Pokey78
Great article! Safire did a masterful job.
26 posted on 01/12/2004 6:42:14 PM PST by blitzgig
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