A Second Look at Limbaugh's Travails

GOPUSA ^ | January 12, 2004 | Carol Devine-Molin

[tornado100]

I'm using the term "jail" in the common parlance. Of course I know the difference between "prison" "jail" and the local county penitentiary. Individuals are held in jail before the case is adjudicated, and if incarceration is less than a year, then the criminal serves the term in the county penitentiary. If incarceration is a year or longer, we're talking state prison time here in New York. I usually avoid these nuances, only because everyone understands the word "jail" to mean incarceration. OK?

[longtermmemmory]

I have never mention actual trial. A trial determination is only relevant when we know the actual charges. The prosecutor may have a terrible case. In those situations you are stuck. The prosecutor would rather loose a weak case to a jury verdict than suffer the negative PR of humanity.

It is one of the reasons drug court is paletable. There is no subjectivness in eligiblity. You are eligible or not.

As for scrutiny, that is what protective orders are for.

[Matchett-PI]

Lazamataz: "He has not yet admitted he is powerless over his addiction. He still thinks his life can be manageable with drugs. It's obvious to me."

Matchett-PI: "You are obviously claiming to be able to read his mind.

Lazamataz: "The reason it seems obvious to me that he hasn't gotten the First Step1 yet, is he has not surrendered to his addiction. ..."

Now it only seems obvious because you are sure he hasn't "surrendered to his addiction".

Please explain to me the difference between admitting powerlessness over an addiction and surrendering to an addiction.

First you said That Rush has not yet admitted he is powerless over his addiction (surrendering to his addiction).

I showed you that was false by quoting Rush's own words:

"...I am powerless over this addiction that I have. I used to think I could beat it with force of will. I used to think that I would be different, but I'm not."

"I'm just like anybody else who has an addiction. I'm powerless over it .."

Next you said: "I stand corrected. But I can tell you this, his tone has changed a LOT since those initial days after treatment."

Matchett-PI: "...Since you ...also said that his tone has changed (I, personally, haven't noticed any such change) since those first days when he got back, maybe you would be so kind as to show the rest of us how his thinking (and tone) has changed from what he said the bottom line is when he first got back, here:"

"You can boil it down to one real simple essence: I can't be responsible for anybody's happiness but my own, and if I allow somebody else the power to determine my happiness, then...well...that's something I don't want to do. I can't do [it] any longer. I put myself first. Doesn't mean be rudely selfish. It just means I can't depend on other people to make me happy. I have to do that myself. I'm the only one who has control over that."

Instead of answering, you added another one of your perceptions to the mix:

Lazamataz: "But when he begins blaming all sorts of people around him -- which you cannot deny he has been doing lately -- for various predicaments he finds himself in, he has not surrendered. ..."

Once again you are making claims about what you perceive him to be doing or not doing, providing no actual in-context quotes with dates to back up your assertions as you appear to be mixing apples and oranges, and then flat-out tell me that I can't deny it???

You have to be kidding.

Lazamataz: "..I'm going to apply my life-lessons to assess where I speculate he is at. .."

So we went from what is "obvious", to what "seems obvious" to what is "speculation".

[Matchett-PI]

"Sir ..you have anger issues. Don't look to the darkest possible motive in every person. Not all of us will be able to measure up to the bar of "raw evil" you set for us."

You're a reeeeal piece of work. Now you've changed the subject to *me*.

Which catagory do your statements belong in this time?:

[1] "These things are obvious to me",
[2] "These things seem obvious to me", or
[3] "These things are really just my speculations".

[Lazamataz]

You're a reeeeal piece of work. Now you've changed the subject to *me*.

Seek help. Seriously.

[Lazamataz]

First you said That Rush has not yet admitted he is powerless over his addiction (surrendering to his addiction).

I showed you that was false by quoting Rush's own words:

The passage of time seems to befuddle you.

Here, let me try and spell it out for you:

T   H   I   N   G   S
C   H   A   N   G   E
O   V   E   R
T   I   M   E.

Let me know if you need me to repeat this tricky and difficult-to-grasp concept.

[Lazamataz]

Matchett, you seem to know way better than anyone else about everything.

You seem to have a real Rush Fetish. "Don't you DARE say ANYTHING about *MY RUSH*," you sputter incoherently, flecks of spittle flying.

Ah, the heck with ya. Frankly, you can have your little fantasy. You won't convince me that Rush is in a good place right now. As a long-time recognizer of bullshit, I see it right now -- coming out of Rush and only pertaining to his disease -- and I won't call bullshit a ham-sandwich no matter how many lines you put in bold font.

I've been listening to Rush without collecting quotes, so I've heard what I've heard but gosh golly, no I just can't come up with a quote right now. Wanna know why? Because I am a normal human being who just listens to the show. All I can tell you is my impression. I'll be sure to listen to the show with a more forensic ear from now on and/or go scouring for some quotes when I have time I can blow on a wee little lad such as yourself. Then perhaps I can pop a blood vessel of yours for real. :o)

[Lazamataz]

No user case has ever been contructed into a drug court case using the resources which have been marshaled SPECIFICALLY for Rush's pedestrian case.

I suspected as much. The legal case against Rush is a total sham. It is meant strictly to damage him.

But he had to suspect they were going to do this to him if he was caught, right? So in a way, this is a consequence of his using. He had to know enemies of his would be unfair in every way in this matter.

I just hope Rush stays clean. Heck, he probably lost his hearing over using. He's got a serious addiction working -- the next consequence could be overdose and death, and I sure don't want that for him!

[Lazamataz]

I know these same people from my many years in AA. It is a difficult thing to understand. [horrible situation snipped] This is totally incomprehensible to people who have never "Been There." No use trying to explain it.

I agree. And those who have never been there, who insist on trumpeting their ignorance so loudly, well.... I correct them for lurkers, only. I know full well that willful ignorance cannot be cured.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

Verb Conjugation:

http://www.lessontutor.com/eesconjugate.html

[Lazamataz]

I know what a verb conjegation is.

I was making a pun.

No no, no, not a pun. Wot's that thing that goes the same backwards as forwards. A palindrome.

[longtermmemmory]

Again with the lost his hearing myth. I asked a doctor about that, he said it was very very rare.

Rush already has spoken on the issue of going to the authorities. Being an addict may not be illegal, but addiction would be used as an excuse by democrats who want to use Rush to boost their carreers. Do Piranah's coordinate their attack?

Legally speaking, if the SA or Police did have an desire to really catch Rush they would have set up a sting opperation. They would have set up a "buy" and arrested Rush at the time of purchase. SOP. There would be no retaining of special lawyers and using the financial crimes unit..

[Lazamataz]

I asked a doctor about that, he said it was very very rare.

Does rare mean it cannot happen? Your calling this lost hearing a myth implies that you are asserting that the loss of his hearing CANNOT be attributed to opiate intake. That is incorrect: According to the 2003 edition of the Physicians' Desk Reference, one of the adverse reactions listed for this class of drugs is hearing loss.

And think what you are putting forth here: It is rare that hearing loss happens due to excessive opiate intake, therefore his case a myth.

By the same logic, his success in radio is rare, therefore his success in radio is a myth.

Rush already has spoken on the issue of going to the authorities. Being an addict may not be illegal, but addiction would be used as an excuse by democrats who want to use Rush to boost their carreers. Do Piranah's coordinate their attack?

I'm not as concerned about his legal problems as I am about the addiction. The legal problems will work out, Rush will continue broadcast, and he will continue to stuff it in the faces of liberals -- to my immense satisfaction.

However, if his addiction resurfaces in the form of a relapse -- well, his drug of choice is damned dangerous. He could die. That would not be acceptable to me.

[JudyB1938]

Touche - been there a few times in my life - pain ain't fun ...

You know what? I fully expected a flame from you when I saw you'd replied to my comment. I am so glad to know that you have this sympathy with others, even though you had to acquire it the hard way. I sincerely hope that your health is much better these days.

[Lazamataz]

You know what? I fully expected a flame from you when I saw you'd replied to my comment. I am so glad to know that you have this sympathy with others, even though you had to acquire it the hard way. I sincerely hope that your health is much better these days.

_Jim can be an okay guy sometimes.

When he's not advocating firing at fleeing criminals from helicopters with .50 caliber machine guns. ;^)

EASE DOWN, _Jim, ease down. It was a good natured barb! :o)

[Lazamataz]

You know what? I fully expected a flame from you when I saw you'd replied to my comment. I am so glad to know that you have this sympathy with others, even though you had to acquire it the hard way. I sincerely hope that your health is much better these days.

_Jim can be an okay guy sometimes.

When he's not advocating firing at fleeing criminals from helicopters with .50 caliber machine guns. ;^)

EASE DOWN, _Jim, ease down. It was a good natured barb! :o)

[tornado100]

Sure you mentioned "trial". Here's your quote --"If they find the magic charges, they will get a very public rush trial".