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Mass Immigration Said 'Swamping' U.S. Cities
NewsMax ^ | 12 Jan, 2004

Posted on 01/12/2004 7:33:52 PM PST by Happy2BMe

Mass Immigration Said 'Swamping' U.S. Cities

Jon E. Dougherty
Tuesday, Jan. 13, 2004
Mass immigration, most of it coming from south of the border, is "swamping" the United States, with six large U.S. cities now consisting mostly of foreign-born inhabitants, a new report warns.

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a Washington, D.C.-based group advocating tighter immigration restrictions, says 1.1 million immigrants will enter the U.S. this year alone. In its new report, FAIR says the immigrant population nearly doubled from 19.8 million in 1990 to 31.1 million a decade later.

"America's immigration policies have launched us into a risky experiment never tried by a modern day country," said Dan Stein, FAIR's executive director, in reference to the new numbers. "This demographic change is unlike anything this country has ever experienced, and is unprecedented in modern times."

FAIR says six large U.S. cities over 100,000 – Hialeah and Miami, Fla., along with Glendale, Santa Ana, Daly City and El Monte, Calif. – had foreign-born populations of more than 50 percent. The immigrant population constituted 41-50 percent of the total in four others: Los Angeles, East Los Angeles, and Garden Grove, Calif., along with Elizabeth, New Jersey.

Mexico accounted for about 9.2 million immigrants, or 30 percent of the total foreign-born population in the U.S., according to the Census Bureau's 2000 report, making it the leading country of birth. Next were China and the Philippines, with 1.5 million and 1.4 million respectively. They are followed by India, Vietnam, Cuba, South Korea, Canada, El Salvador and Germany.

In 2000, more than half the foreign born population lived in three states: California, New York and Texas, the Census Bureau found. The FAIR report said immigration was the greatest in the South, which saw its foreign born population grow by 90 percent, followed by 65 percent in the Midwest.

FAIR says the foreign-born population in the U.S. will swell to 45 million by 2010 if current immigration levels continue, "making this decade's wave of immigration the largest in U.S. history," the report said, adding California's foreign-born population alone is expected to swell to 12 million by decade's end.

Currently, the U.S. population is estimated at 291 million people, according to Census Bureau figures.

Though not all immigration is unhealthy for the country, FAIR says many regions of the U.S. are already struggling economically to provide basic services for people. Adding more numbers will simply make it more difficult – and expensive – to offer them, and that could lead to other troubles, the group claimed.

"What remains to be seen is if this country has the capacity to accommodate, and assimilate, an unending wave of mass immigration ¯ because failure to do so will result in a balkanized, fragmented, strife-torn and dysfunctional America," Stein said.

New Immigrant Initiatives

A number of surveys have shown a majority of Americans at odds with lawmakers who support high levels of immigration. Still, there are new immigrant-friendly initiatives being introduced and considered by Congress and the Bush administration.

For the first time since before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, the administration has hinted it is considering a new work-related legalization program for millions of aliens currently residing in the U.S.

A week ago in Miami, Homeland Security chief Tom Ridge told an audience the U.S. will have to "come to grips" with such an initiative, if for nothing else because of the sheer number of illegal aliens who here now or planning to come in the future.

"The bottom line is, as a country we have to come to grips with the presence of 8 to 12 million illegals, afford them some kind of legal status some way, but also as a country decide what our immigration policy is and then enforce it," Ridge said.

Legislatively, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 16-3 in October to approve the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act of 2003, which would provide college opportunities for U.S.-born children of illegal aliens residing in the country – a vote hailed by immigrant and Latino support groups.

"The future of thousands of Hispanic children depends on the passage of this bill," said a statement by the National Council of La Raza, the nation's largest Hispanic civil rights group.

In clarifying Ridge's statement to reporters a few days later, President Bush said he has opposed, and continues to oppose, any "blanket amnesty" for illegal aliens. But, he echoed the Homeland Security chief's support for a work-related legalization plan.

"We need to have an immigration policy that helps match any willing employer with any willing employee," Bush told reporters Dec. 15. "It makes sense that that policy go forward. And we're in the process of working that through now so I can make a recommendation to the Congress."

Bush will travel to the Summit of the Americas in Monterrey, Mexico, next month, where he will likely discuss the issue with other regional leaders.

Some lawmakers, however, call such work-related plans little more than an amnesty program, and are opposed them on those grounds. Instead, they are pushing for stricter overall enforcement of existing immigration laws as well as a different approach to creating the so-called "guest worker" programs.

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., head of the House Immigration Reform Caucus, says border legislation he introduced earlier this year aims to plug "gaping holes in both America’s porous borders and its dysfunctional guest worker programs."

Reform groups like FAIR maintain the first issue Washington should address is continued record-high immigration.

"Mass immigration has nothing whatsoever to do with the economic and social well-being of the United States or the American people," Stein said. "Immigration is entirely about the interests of the immigrants themselves, special interest ethnic groups, and business interests that want unlimited numbers of low-wage workers."


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1 posted on 01/12/2004 7:33:52 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; Capitalist Eric; hershey; Sabertooth
Mass Immigration and Urban Swamp PING!
2 posted on 01/12/2004 7:38:12 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Swamping? Oh no, not swamping! Anything but swamping!!
3 posted on 01/12/2004 7:38:36 PM PST by Texas_Dawg (Most of the FReepers opposed to illegal immigration are opposed to immigration/immigrants entirely.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
"Anything but swamping . ."

Will "SPRAWL" work?

Study: Immigration Biggest Contributor to Sprawl (87% of Growth Attributed to Immigrants)

4 posted on 01/12/2004 7:40:02 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Your tag line is your own narrow-minded hallucination. Most FReepers want limited immigration. Our country has never had long periods of unchecked immigration, and we as a sovereign nation have the right to put limits on who comes here and how many come here.
5 posted on 01/12/2004 7:42:00 PM PST by Henrietta
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To: Happy2BMe
Check this out.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1054219/posts#comment
6 posted on 01/12/2004 7:42:39 PM PST by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Bring em on--the more the better.

We are an immigrant nation, melded into one.

The US ideals must come first. We have much work that needs to be done. The US ideals must come first.
7 posted on 01/12/2004 7:43:14 PM PST by jolie560
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To: Happy2BMe
Is there anyone here who supports global free trade with an exception for labor markets?

I've often wondered why the immigration issue isn't discussed as a free trade v. protectionism debate with respect to the labor market. Unless there's a good reason for treating labor markets differently, I'm inclined to think immigration restrictions are just another example of protectionism, but I'd like to hear more before I make up my mind.

Hence, the question: Why shouldn't one favor global free trade for labor, assuming one favors global free trade in other cases?
8 posted on 01/12/2004 7:46:46 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Happy2BMe
I still cannot believe that this is happening.. I knew that it was in the 'works' but didn't expect anything of this magnatude .. I thought as in the past, they would dole it out a bit of time.. so that 'we the people' would take it and say nothing.. but I never dreamed anything like this..

Seems the neocons who have co-oped the Party (that I'm registered as and have voted for)not only take us for granted but also believe we are idiots!

9 posted on 01/12/2004 7:51:01 PM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004)
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To: Henrietta
He used to make war on the American worker,(as his tagline) but I guess illegal immigration has more panache these days.
11 posted on 01/12/2004 7:55:16 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
You can't have free market citizenship, and still have a country. That is what the illegal alien amnesty proposal suggests.
12 posted on 01/12/2004 7:56:23 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: jolie560
Bring em on--the more the better.

I have no problem with CONTROLLED immigration, where the immigrants are screened, and have to make an effort to learn our culture and our language; and most importantly follow our laws.

However, this is presently not the case. We have illegal invaders who not only demand the right to vote in our elections, demand our welfare, free medical care, social security for life and low income housing; but then take jobs and prevent our children from working in jobs where they used to be able to earn summer wages. We have schools in which these invaders have demanded that we not only educate their children for free; but we had better learn to speak their language while we are at it.

Do you know what happens if you illegally go to Mexico? You go to jail. If you LEGALLY go to Mexico (or ANY other country on the face of the planet) you will NEVER be allowed to own land, or vote. If you apply, you MAY be able to get a work permit; but many countries deny Americans work permits under any condition (like India).

13 posted on 01/12/2004 7:57:39 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Immigration and citizenship are different issues. Look at Switzerland for an example of how firmly the distinction can be drawn.

Even with a green card, an immigrant can't vote and isn't a citizen.
14 posted on 01/12/2004 7:58:15 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Baynative
Remember, we have an open border with Mexico, but you just try driving south without papers. They do not want Americans in Mexico to own property or to own any resource related business like oil. When Mr. Fox talks about open borders, he really only means one way. Norte!
15 posted on 01/12/2004 7:58:32 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Immigrants become citizens sometimes. What they called the people flooding our country today at the Summit of the Americas is migrants. That means they come here to collect money from us, but never make an attachment to our country and the culture of the Constitution.

The Mexican government opens hometown clubs in every city the migrants concentrate in, to make sure they do not lose affliation with Mexico. In hometown clubs they make sure the remittances are sent to mexico. In hometown clubs they organize the migrants to be a significant political force AGAINST the citizen. They are effective too, look how many cities are trying to give illegal aliens the right to vote in school board elections. They also use their political clout to keep American tax dollars pouring into schools to educate their children, into hospitals and health clinics that cater only to them, and now with banks so they can get home loans to buy houses here.

The lowly citizen appears only to have the right to pay for all this stuff and suffer the environmental stress that the burgeoning population is creating.

Also in switzerland they give you a green card maybe, but you can bet they don't have 14 million illegal aliens floating around their country like we do.
16 posted on 01/12/2004 8:05:18 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Happy2BMe
Imagine - John Lennon The great globalist NWO thinker dreamer....seems his dream is getting help from a most surprising source

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky

Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no country
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
living life in peace

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will live as one


17 posted on 01/12/2004 8:13:28 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy
John Lennon - a person that espired to marry Yoko. Nuff said 'about both'.
19 posted on 01/12/2004 8:18:30 PM PST by Digger
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To: Hodar; jolie560
"Bring em on--the more the better."

Mexico President to Mexico: MORE – WE’RE GOING FOR MORE!!

20 posted on 01/12/2004 8:20:32 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Shut up and support this wonderful president!!
22 posted on 01/12/2004 8:21:23 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (What is the point of fighting in Iraq if we surrender to Vicente?)
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To: jolie560
The problem is most new (illegal) immigrants don't want to meld, be it language or culture-wise. In other words, they don't aspire to become Americans. They want to set up their own culture here, live off of our social programs and all that can be gained from our, we the taxpayers, money.

Earlier, legal immigrants (my ancestors not so long ago) were eager to learn English, become an American citizen and become part of the great melting pot. Sad to say, but from my own personal experience, that is not the case today.
23 posted on 01/12/2004 8:22:30 PM PST by mplsconservative (I'm a South Dakota native, and darned ashamed of it, well, just the Tommy Daschle part.)
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To: joesnuffy
Paul McCartney was my favorite Beatle.

"Blackbird" is a beautiful song.

We really need to take the broken wings around here and learn to fly.

24 posted on 01/12/2004 8:23:24 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Immigrants are required to pay state and federal taxes on wages earned in the US at the same rates as US citizens.

Contrast that with products made in the US which are sold overseas. State governments collect no sales tax from products exported to, and sold in, Europe, the far East, etc. (Note to self: double check if that's true) even though the state absorbs "the environmental stress" of producing those goods.

If you're thinking about public finance, free trade in the labor market looks like a win on the revenue side compared to free trade in goods.
25 posted on 01/12/2004 8:23:52 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: mplsconservative
"The problem is most new (illegal) immigrants don't want to meld, be it language or culture-wise."

So if they dressed like you, talked like you, listened to the same kind of music as you, liked the same kinds of food as you, etc etc they'd be OK.

But they don't, so they're not?
27 posted on 01/12/2004 8:26:06 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
[, I'm inclined to think immigration restrictions are just another example of protectionism]

You are correct, and if you have followed the free trade debate you will have noticed that one of the major objection to free trade is that it depresses American wages.

28 posted on 01/12/2004 8:26:44 PM PST by jpsb (")
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To: DLfromthedesert
~ Take the FReeper Immigration Reform Poll ~

29 posted on 01/12/2004 8:27:42 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: TomInNJ
And our president couldn't wait to kiss their fat butts.
30 posted on 01/12/2004 8:28:11 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (What is the point of fighting in Iraq if we surrender to Vicente?)
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To: jolie560
Bring em on--the more the better.

Do you ever miss Calcutta?

31 posted on 01/12/2004 8:28:40 PM PST by dagnabbit (Tell Bush where to put his Amnesty and Global Labor Pool for American Jobs - Tancredo in the primary)
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To: Happy2BMe
Send them back.

We have more than enough people, thank you.
32 posted on 01/12/2004 8:30:22 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: mplsconservative
There are a lot of English speaking people in Kenya. Maybe we should allow free movement of labor between Kenya and the US?

Or allow free movement of labor provided immigrants pass an English competency exam that 50% of Americans could pass?

I don't know if any of that is what you had in mind. I'm just trying to brainstorm some possibilities, letting you tell me what would be OK and wouldn't. That way I can work backwards from failed solutions and try to pinpoint the exact problem.
33 posted on 01/12/2004 8:30:30 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Happy2BMe
Polls don't matter; the elite have spoken.
34 posted on 01/12/2004 8:31:06 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (What is the point of fighting in Iraq if we surrender to Vicente?)
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To: jolie560
Send them back.

We are overcrowded.
35 posted on 01/12/2004 8:31:44 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason
"Send them back. We have more than enough people, thank you"

That's not what the business lobby is saying. Shouldn't we pursue a pro-business agenda?
36 posted on 01/12/2004 8:31:52 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: jolie560
We are an immigrant nation . . . .

We used to be a slavery nation, too.

But times change.

37 posted on 01/12/2004 8:33:24 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Sabertooth
ping
38 posted on 01/12/2004 8:34:02 PM PST by Pelham
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Shouldn't we pursue a pro-business agenda?

We should pursue a freedom agenda, first.

39 posted on 01/12/2004 8:34:14 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: TomInNJ
The boundless audacity!!! They're doing US a favor? Who do they think they're kidding?

Well, let's return the favor, empty our prisons, and send them to Mexico City.
40 posted on 01/12/2004 8:34:25 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (What is the point of fighting in Iraq if we surrender to Vicente?)
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Sure, send them back and accelerate the ones waiting to enter the country legally. The ones that have applied to entire will probably earn more and contribute more to our society than the current law-breaking freeloaders.
41 posted on 01/12/2004 8:34:38 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: Baynative
You forgot to mention changing the constitution to let them run for president. That would just about do it.
42 posted on 01/12/2004 8:35:26 PM PST by hershey
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To: RockyMtnMan
The ones that have applied to entire will probably earn more and contribute more to our society than the current law-breaking freeloaders.

Send them all back.

We are full up.

43 posted on 01/12/2004 8:36:35 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason
No arguements here.
44 posted on 01/12/2004 8:38:47 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Problem is that the people immigrating here probably hasn't a clue what a libertarian is.

Link to F.A.I.R. article

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Clinton’s Subtle, but Historic, Redefinition of U.S. Immigration Policy

January 10, 2001

Commentary by Ira Mehlman Federation for American Immigration Reform Spokesman

The Clinton Administration is now a part of history, and historians are just getting started assessing the Clinton legacy. There will be plenty to keep them busy. area of health care reform and personal integrity.

Among the records set during the Clinton years was the largest sustained wave of immigration in America’s history. Some 10 million new immigrants arrived in the U.S. during his presidency, and by the time he left offices there were nearly 30 million foreign born residents, accounting for more than 10 percent of the population.

But perhaps more significant than the sheer numbers of people who settled here during the Clinton years, was the dramatic redefinition of the purpose of immigration policy and the relationship between immigrants and their adopted country.

After losing control of both houses of Congress in the 1994 election to the Republicans, Clinton embarked on a program to reshape the electorate in a way that was more to his liking. In addition to using his considerable powers of persuasion to win back public support, he set about creating a new American public. The administration directed the Immigration and Naturalization Service to mint new citizens in time to vote in the 1996 elections. Under the direct control of Vice President Gore, the Citizenship USA program was tasked with naturalizing as many noncitizens as they could possibly find in time to participate in the next election.

The plan succeeded. Democrats have eliminated the Republicans’ majority in the Senate and have significantly eroded their advantage in the House. An analysis of voting patterns across the country shows that voting by new citizens has been the deciding factor in numerous elections, and in nearly every case, has broken to the Democrats’ advantage.

In much the same way as employers have used immigrants to change labor market conditions to their advantage, the Clinton Administration used them to create an electorate more to their liking.

In the past, immigration was seen as policy designed to serve the interests of the nation. As such, there was a general belief that it was the responsibility of the immigrants to go the extra mile to accommodate themselves to the social, cultural and linguistic norms of the country. As customers, that relationship is reversed. It is the nation that must bend over backwards to accommodate the “customers,” and provide whatever services and programs they need.

Under the customer model, if immigration creates overcrowded schools, or exceeds the capacity of public health care system, you don’t reduce immigration. Instead you build as many schools and emergency rooms as the “customers” require. Under the customer model, it doesn’t matter whether immigrants have marketable skills, or that more than one-third have less than a high school education. It becomes the nation’s obligation to deal with the needs of the immigrants.

Very often it is the subtle policy changes of a presidential administration that define its legacy. Clinton’s subtle manipulation of immigration policy could prove to be among the most long lasting imprints he leaves on America.

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I believe we will have an uphill battle in the future just to keep our Constitutional Republic alive. Why import more democrats?

45 posted on 01/12/2004 8:39:10 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Happy2BMe
Four More Years!
... And, Four Million More Illegal Aliens for Each of those Years!

... the new Bush bumper sticker for Bush 2004.

46 posted on 01/12/2004 8:39:24 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Immigration Causes A Quarter Of California’s State Budget Deficit

Native-born Californian households paid $1,174 annually in federal, state and local taxes in a net subsidy to the immigrant presence in their state.

Just in state taxes alone, excluding federal and local taxes, native-born California native-born households paid $895 annually in a net subsidy to the immigrant presence.

California immigrant households received a net subsidy from combined Federal, state, and local programs averaging $6,145 in 1996. Immigrant households received an average $24,507 in combined Federal, state, and local spending. They paid an average of $18,362 in taxes.

California immigrant households received a net subsidy of $2,632 from California state taxpayers. They received an average $4,973 in state spending and paid an average $2,341 in state taxes.

Adjusting for inflation and growth in the immigrant population since the NRC report, we estimate California immigrants now receive about $9.3 billion more in state expenditures than they pay in state taxes. (See table)

Conclusion: nearly one-quarter (24.5%) of California’s current $38 billion state budget deficit stems directly from immigration.

47 posted on 01/12/2004 8:39:42 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: TomInNJ
Please tell me again why in Sam Hill Bush is having Fox stay at the ranch in Crawford? I thought that was a special favor for allies. Do they seriously think nobody hears what's said by other Mexican officials? Does it ever occur to Bush that the base of his support might just bolt and form a third party? Guess who would be sitting in the oval office then -- Hitlery. We're doomed.
48 posted on 01/12/2004 8:43:16 PM PST by hershey
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To: Brian_Baldwin
WE R N TRUBL
49 posted on 01/12/2004 8:43:17 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: jolie560
Bring em on--the more the better.

We are an immigrant nation, melded into one.

The US ideals must come first. We have much work that needs to be done. The US ideals must come first.

You hit the nail on the head. In the past, the US WAS a "melting pot," and by combining the strengths of the immigrant cultures with our own, we became stronger. Although many immigrants kept their own cultures and languages alive at home, they believed that it was important to become "Americans," and share a common culture and language with everyone else here.

That's no longer the case. Balkanization of America is going on, with "cultural diversity" being the ultimate goal... To divide us. Different cultures and languages make for a North American Europe... And they've been fighting with each off and on for over a thousands of years.

Mark

50 posted on 01/12/2004 8:43:20 PM PST by MarkL (It's the Chief's Second Season! See you in the Playoffs!)
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