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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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1 posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper
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To: gubamyster; Pro-Bush; FairOpinion; FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
PING!
2 posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:45 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
Oy vey. Savage is such an idiot.
3 posted on 01/13/2004 5:56:23 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: JustPiper
He is unlistenable.
4 posted on 01/13/2004 5:57:08 AM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: JustPiper
Put the hook on Savage!
5 posted on 01/13/2004 5:57:50 AM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign visit W-04.com for FREE STICKERS)
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To: JustPiper
In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency,..

Is Savage part of the "conservative core"?

I always considered him a part of the far right.

6 posted on 01/13/2004 5:58:15 AM PST by evad (Welcome back Joe Gibbs...we've been waitin')
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To: MEGoody
Wonder how he felt about Reagan in '86?Is he always this extreme?
7 posted on 01/13/2004 5:58:36 AM PST by MEG33 (We Got Him!)
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To: JustPiper
Savage is a legend in his own mind.
8 posted on 01/13/2004 5:58:49 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: JustPiper
"According to a RoperASW poll from last year, 83 percent of Americans support mandatory detention and forfeiture of property for illegal immigrants, followed by deportation."

I'm one of the 83%.

If the President Bush or Tom Ridge would announce that in six months they will be paying a $50 per head bounty for each illegal alien on American soil there would be a mad rush for the borders.

A policeman in a car costs the average city about $200 an hour. Helicopters cost at least $2000 an hour with the ground crews. What is the full cost of a teacher per hour? $140.00 or there about.

If we could get illegal aliens to turn each other in, just the ones trying to slip through the net, (I know thousands would attempt it) we would save billions in law enforcement, welfare programs, unemployment, medical care, job training and schools the first year.

Do all this under Executive Order and tell the Courts to back off. This is national security!

Just announce that we will be dividing the country up into various sized quadrants depending on population per square mile.

Any employer who has employed an illegal alien five months from the announcement date will be fined $5000 per employee. One month later enforcement begins. This will give employers 5 months to shed the illegals and hire legally papered actual American citizens.

Then on the announced date, start in a state such as Oklahoma. Well centered, not overly populated and clean the state out. This would give Homeland, INS and Border Patrol time to install their co-agents in various court houses around the country to verify a persons paperwork, i.e.. birth certificates, hospital records, etc.

Get caught and the result would be every foreign national who is not in America legally would forfeit their belongings and be shipped out within 24 hours. These forfeited belongings would then be given to local churches for distribution to the needy. Another cost saver!

Go state to state from the epicenter sweeping out the criminals who have successfully avoided suspicion. They already had 5 months to get out, hanging around to test the system carries a SEVERE penalty. They won't be able to say they weren't warned.

This enforcement would apply to illegals from every country in the world, not just Mexico.

Imagine the number of Chinese who would be taking the ship home with everything in the house, new cars, you name it would be on those ships. The thousands of Canadians who decided the USA was better than Canada would be headed North.

How many schools could be closed? How many hospitals and state paid housing tracts? How many welfare offices?

How many state and federal employees would find out that they have the time to actually give good service to their American customers?

Oh yes, it would be an economic shocker in the amount of taxes that could be reduced or used to actually improve something needed for American citizens, instead of illegal foreigners.

Want an approximate number of the population drop? Try 50 million+ with the majority over 30 years of age, having been illegal residents of America for over ten years.

Just imagine the frantic squealing from our politicians thinking of the lost votes and contributions. That would be a sideshow worth watching!

Scan the whole page for good reading!
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9 posted on 01/13/2004 6:00:39 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: JustPiper
I was listening to his show last night and couldn't beleive what I was hearing.
Then the Rochester radio station left his show and went to a basketball game.
I live in Buffalo and the only other radio at night is Dr Laura and NPR. I shut it off.
10 posted on 01/13/2004 6:01:16 AM PST by The Mayor (The more you look forward to heaven, the less you'll desire of earth.)
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To: JustPiper
Bump.

No Bush in 2004.
11 posted on 01/13/2004 6:01:57 AM PST by Marine Inspector (TANCREDO 2004)
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To: JustPiper
So is he going to impeach the congress too?
12 posted on 01/13/2004 6:02:34 AM PST by DB ()
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To: JustPiper
If an idea is bad enough, it will eventually pass. I cite as evidence for my theory campaign finance reform and the new prescription drug entitlement. This immigration proposal will pass as well, I expect.
13 posted on 01/13/2004 6:02:48 AM PST by Batrachian
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To: JustPiper
Hello-o-o Infidels BUMP

But who's going to clean the crappers in Crawford?

14 posted on 01/13/2004 6:04:49 AM PST by putupon (I'm being punished; I have to post "I will not call the President the J name 100 times".)
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To: JustPiper
As I recall from what I heard of Bush's talk on this, It is a proposal only. No exec order or anything. Congress has an idea laid out before it on which to act, including making changes as it sees fit.

Since when to does a President get impeached for making proposals?

15 posted on 01/13/2004 6:04:58 AM PST by drc43
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To: MEG33
How is this extreme? Anyone would have to wonder when two leaders get together and work out pacts where one sends whatever many of his citizens to the other's country. What is between Bush and Fox that Fox has so much control?
16 posted on 01/13/2004 6:06:53 AM PST by FITZ
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To: B4Ranch
My need to rant and rave becomes unbearable.

All I can say is...damn!

17 posted on 01/13/2004 6:07:01 AM PST by evad (Welcome back Joe Gibbs...we've been waitin')
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To: DB
Savage uses shock tactics to initiate debate on certain subjects. I love SAVAGE because he says things others fell that they won't speak about. Unlike rush and Hannity Savage is no cheerleading kool-aid drinking Republicrat. He is emotional and cares a lot of which he speaks about. If you have listened to Savage then you know to take some things he says with a grain of salt. He is VERY entertaining and over half of what he says is the blatent truth. Much better listening to him then Republicrats apologists like Hannity and Rush sipping away at mind washing kool-aid. Hannity and Rush are smart individuals and great listening to but do not bring out the faults of current republicrats like they should.
18 posted on 01/13/2004 6:07:26 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: JustPiper
Michael Savage has diarrhea of the mouth. I quit listening to his garbage long ago.

He further right than Dean is far left.

19 posted on 01/13/2004 6:08:04 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (WARNING! Do not use this tag line for any other purpose!)
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To: JustPiper
Stick a fork in Savage
20 posted on 01/13/2004 6:09:20 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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