3 dead in Lilburn (GA) home invasion

Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 01-12-04 | MIKE MORRIS

[Travis McGee]

Too bad he didn't run into a Georgian holding a .357 or .45.

[Travis McGee]

Will you hide in your locked bedroom, if you have an 8 year old daughter and 11 year old son down the hall?

[Dixie Pirate]

"If you get a reply, please post that too."

I doubt they have the guts to reply. Most Commies don't, but if they reply, I'll post it.

[Sloth]

These experienced proffesionals will keep you on the line giving instuctions making lots of unnecessary noise so the intruders will know where you are, and will ask relevant, important questions designed to result in a quick and effective police response death.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Had the robber lived, he would be another felon that the Democrats are trying to give the right to vote.

[Jen]

I re-read my post and it makes me sound like some Rambo-ette - which I'm not! hahahaha

My phrase "cowering in the bedroom" suggests being unarmed, terrified, helpless, defenseless - which I would hate to be. You worded what I was trying to say much better.

Searching your home for an intruder is, in general, not a good idea.....even if your armed. Wait for him to come to you.

Oh yeah! I'd like to have the element of surprise on my side if I ever meet up with a predator/intruder.

[m1-lightning]

Had the robber lived, he would be another felon that the Democrats are trying to give the right to vote.

You mean the American Civil Libertarian's Union.

[xsrdx]

Will you hide in your locked bedroom, if you have an 8 year old daughter and 11 year old son down the hall?

I would do what is absolutely necessary to ensure my family is safe - and no more.

One or two force on force simunition exercises should be enough to convince anyone that trying to clear their house ALONE against what may be more than one ARMED perp is a GREAT WAY to get shot.

Nothing wrong with arming yourself and protecting your loved ones, but the cop was HALF right when he said wandering through your house looking for trouble can get ugly, quick - even for operators that know how to conduct said search.

[xsrdx]

choosing to use a handgun actually reduces your family's safety

Complete, absolute total BullShat.

A little editing might help:

Your family's safety is far more likely to be preserved by (arming yourself), calling 9-1-1, and allowing experienced police officers to search your home, than by arming yourself and searching your home in the dark without calling police."

[Eva]

There is an article on Frontpage today about Condelezza Rice where she is quoted defending gun ownership:

One of the many dirty secrets of the Democratic Party is that its passion for gun control began, and continues to be, from a desire to disarm African-Americans and thereby make them powerless and dependent. Russian expert Michael McFaul, writes Russakoff, “remembers [Condoleezza] Rice telling him she opposed gun control and even gun registration because Bull Connor could have used it to disarm her father and others” in 1963. You can read the whole article HERE.I really hate it when good articles get posted at off times and get too little attention.

[m1-lightning]

I agree with you. It would be much more intelligent to inform the public on how to safely store and operate your firearms along with a safety procedure such as a bedroom barricade. The liberal leaders across America assume we are too irresponsible because we haven't had official police training - just like we were too irresponsible to spend our own money in the 90's because we weren't economic geniuses.

[Travis McGee]

All true, but where does that leave your young children down the hall?

[Kennesaw]

Thanks for posting the Condelezza Rice Article!!!

Great Article!!

[xsrdx]

All true, but where does that leave your young children down the hall?

I will ensure my family's safety - if that means I risk a trip down the hall, or whatever is required, so be it.

My personal safety is of no consequence unless/until my kids/spouse are safe; OTOH I work hard to make sure I win.

Securing my kids/spouse outweighs any risk involved - but once that is accomplished, getting into a gunfight on purpose is counterproductive.

My only point here is that unless you HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE, searching your house alone is exceedingly dangerous regardless of how well trained and equipped you may be.

[Eva]

Please bump the Rice article for me.

[The Toll]

I live very close to Tucker High also. This is very sad indeed, but good to see Freepers close by.

[nonsporting]

"If a resident believes there is an intuder in their home late at night, choosing to use a handgun actually reduces your family's safety. We want the Wilmette resident instead to immediately lock the door to the bedroom and dial 9-1-1, which will connect them in seconds to telecommunicators at the Wilmette Police Department. These experienced profesionals will keep you on the line giving instuctions, and will ask relevant, important questions designed to result in a quick and effective police response. Your family's safety is far more likely to be preserved by calling 9-1-1, and allowing experienced police officers to search your home, than by arming yourself and searching your home in the dark without calling police." (Wilmette Chief of Police)

Hi-res

[eleni121]

Mr. Carpenter should be fired. He is either a dunce or distracted from reality. In a situation such as this, the firearm would be used immediately to disable the invader and not a second too soon.

Locking myself in a bedroom and calling 911 would ensure the deaths of anyone in the house.

[Gritty]

a late-night crime spree

Somehow, this guy got in the house. But, it was late at night and the occupants should have been wary of a "visitor" at this time of night.

It sounds like the killer may have knocked, barged through the opened door, a scuffle ensued, the son showed up and then the shooting started. It's a shame Mr. Venerable didn't answer the door armed or his son didn't show up to the fight armed with more than just his fists. But, as the family apparently didn't own a firearm, they were stuck bringing empty hands to a gunfight in their own living room.

Calling 911 would not have changed a thing, assuming they had the time to do so while this was happening.

What a shame, and a tragedy for all!

[Vigilantcitizen]

Thanks for the ping, friend.

"At that point, two Gwinnett police officers shot the suspect, Huggins said.

The unidentified suspect, who appeared to be in his early 20s, died at Gwinnett Medical Center.

Good job. One bright spot amongst the tragic deaths of Mr. Venable and son. Prayers for the family.