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The Spectator is right: the Dems are playing for 2008...so who do WE want to run in 2008
Vanity | 1/15/04 | self

Posted on 01/15/2004 12:34:52 PM PST by Salgak

OK, gang.

Barring a catastrophe or another 9/11 attack, it's pretty much a given that President Bush will be re-elected in just under 10 months from today. That's been already listed here on FR today. And Jay Currie has a VERY good point. The Dems KNOW they've already lost this election, and are using it to position for 2008 and, God Help Us, Hillary.

Who do we have / want who is in position to run for the Republican nomination in 2008 ???

Given that President Bush would want to have his successor continue his policies, who you all of you think is a worthy successor to George W. Bush, and our best defense against the Hildebeast ???


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; challenger; clinton; election; hillary
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1 posted on 01/15/2004 12:34:54 PM PST by Salgak
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To: Salgak
Rudy G. would be a real threat to Hillary.
2 posted on 01/15/2004 12:37:00 PM PST by maeng
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To: Salgak
Ah, what the hell.

I'll do it.
3 posted on 01/15/2004 12:37:26 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Salgak
"our best defense against the Hildebeast ???...."

That would be for Rudy to kick her A$$ in the '06 NY Senate race, then the only Klintoon we would ever have to fear would be Chelsea!
4 posted on 01/15/2004 12:37:51 PM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: Salgak
I'm leaning in the direction of Condy Rice. Takes all the wind out of the Dem's sails for running the first serious female candidate. "Oh, yeah, well ours is black, too.."
Not to mention that she is truly brilliant.
5 posted on 01/15/2004 12:38:47 PM PST by Gerasimov (Oh calm down ... it was a joke. **mostly**)
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To: Interesting Times
I'd vote for you, IT.
6 posted on 01/15/2004 12:39:15 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Salgak
Rudy Guiliani!
7 posted on 01/15/2004 12:39:21 PM PST by thoughtomator ("I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid"-Qadafi)
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To: TRY ONE
Governor Bill Owens of Colorado.
8 posted on 01/15/2004 12:39:26 PM PST by So Cal Rocket
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To: TRY ONE
Great one!
And very possible ... he was gonna kick her butt until he had to pull out.
9 posted on 01/15/2004 12:40:16 PM PST by Gerasimov (Oh calm down ... it was a joke. **mostly**)
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To: Interesting Times
LOL....Giving in to the groundswell of support, eh?
10 posted on 01/15/2004 12:40:55 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: Cyber Liberty
Cool. Okay, that's two votes...
11 posted on 01/15/2004 12:41:24 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Salgak
Colorado Governor Bill Owens! He signed a bill barring instate tuition for Illegal Immigrants, he barred the state of COlorado from accepting Matricular Consular cards, and he has vowed to sign a bill to ban Affirmative action in Colorado universities!
12 posted on 01/15/2004 12:41:28 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: Pubbie
Jeb/Rudy
13 posted on 01/15/2004 12:41:55 PM PST by ChuckShick (He's clerking for me...)
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To: Salgak
Lamar Alexander.....just kidding.
14 posted on 01/15/2004 12:41:59 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: Salgak
I think Haley Barbour, the new Gov. of Mississippi could make a good run. Might even be a pretty good President.
15 posted on 01/15/2004 12:42:31 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Salgak
We Republicans are going to have to start grooming a Latino candidate for prez in 2008, if we want to get the majority vote.
16 posted on 01/15/2004 12:42:53 PM PST by kevao
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To: Salgak
Condi no question!!!
17 posted on 01/15/2004 12:43:43 PM PST by BiteMedems (Proud Voter of GWB)
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To: ChuckShick
Jeb isn't interested in running and he's sort of squishy on Illegal Immigration.
18 posted on 01/15/2004 12:43:46 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: So Cal Rocket
WHO?
19 posted on 01/15/2004 12:43:55 PM PST by jwalburg (Question Patriotism!)
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To: Salgak
I'd like to see Condi Rice run in 2008.
20 posted on 01/15/2004 12:43:56 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Salgak
Condi!
21 posted on 01/15/2004 12:44:13 PM PST by VRWCmember (We apologise for the fault in the taglines. Those responsible have been sacked.)
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To: Gerasimov
I respect Dick Cheney a great deal, but I'd like him to step aside in 2004. Have Condi run for VP in 2004 and then run for Pres in 2008.

Normally, 30% vote dem, 30% vote Repub, and 30% are swing. Races usually go to the candidate who can get 51% of that swing vote. But every black vote for Condi is a vote taken away from the Dem. That makes a huge difference. Then it's 25% voting Dem, 35% voting Repub, and 30% voting swing. Not too tough.

22 posted on 01/15/2004 12:44:26 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Me too
23 posted on 01/15/2004 12:44:38 PM PST by bmwcyle (Monica's Mom "Trust but keep verification in the closet")
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To: Pubbie
Yeah, but that hair looks like it's stapled on. Maybe we can arrange an appointment with Christophe!
24 posted on 01/15/2004 12:45:38 PM PST by theDentist (Boston: So much Liberty, you can buy a Politician already owned by someone else.)
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To: kevao
The Hispanic vote will only be 7% of the vote by 2008.

The Hispanic vote is tiny because 33% of all Hispanics in the country are here illegally - and 33% of the projected increase in the Hispanic population will come from Illegals who can't vote.
25 posted on 01/15/2004 12:45:43 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: Salgak
Rudy #1 and VP Condi
26 posted on 01/15/2004 12:45:46 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: kevao
Yes! A candidate that appeals to everyone!
27 posted on 01/15/2004 12:46:39 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: jwalburg

28 posted on 01/15/2004 12:46:45 PM PST by So Cal Rocket
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To: Congressman Billybob
The Honorable Congressman Billybob, of course.
29 posted on 01/15/2004 12:47:12 PM PST by Snuffington
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To: Salgak
Bill Owens (Governor of CO) and George Allen (Senator from VA) are the two names I've heard most prominently mentioned as realistic possibilities.
30 posted on 01/15/2004 12:47:28 PM PST by BlackRazor
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To: So Cal Rocket
"Governor Bill Owens of Colorado"

As a long time resident of Colorado, I can tell you he has done a pretty good job here. However, I don't think he is ruthless enough to beat Ms. Hilly-beast. Owens comes across as a nice, fairly normal guy who I've seen eating at the Chilis with his family before (apparently recently separated from his wife btw). I think Hilly would eat him alive not because of any superior skill or point, but just because she can be mean as hell.

Just food for thought...I'd like to see Condi Rice aggresively slam H.C and her husband into the dust bin of history.
31 posted on 01/15/2004 12:47:48 PM PST by mad puppy
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To: Salgak
Condie Rice, of course.
32 posted on 01/15/2004 12:48:28 PM PST by tuckrdout (Terri Schindler Schiavo deserves to have her wishes honored. Give her a divorce!)
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To: Salgak
Rudy G. in '06 and Big Bill Owens in '08, that's the ticket.
33 posted on 01/15/2004 12:48:35 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: Salgak
ALL Valid points...Lets' not forget GWB...(If he wins)...still has '06 worries...think here & now.

Who knows' Shrillary may go to a religious convent...(and the Football Bengals, Almost had an winning season...It may snow in HELL!)..it too early to tell. :)

34 posted on 01/15/2004 12:48:46 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Pubbie
Oh, I don't know....what does he look like in a cowboy hat and jeans? :-)
35 posted on 01/15/2004 12:48:48 PM PST by RightWingMama
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Condi is Pro-Abortion, Pro-Affirmative Action, and since she is pro AA I guarantee you she is weak on Illegal Immigration.

Besides that, nobody knows what her policies are on anything else.

You only run Condi if you want to depress Conservative turnout in 2008.
36 posted on 01/15/2004 12:48:57 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: kevao
We Republicans are going to have to start grooming a Latino candidate for prez in 2008, if we want to get the majority vote.

That would be George P. Bush, but he'll only be 32 in '08 if memory serves me. Down the road though...

37 posted on 01/15/2004 12:49:10 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: SF Republican
Rice and Dole! Now thats the ticket! 2 Fems!
38 posted on 01/15/2004 12:49:18 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (This week NY is colder than Alaska! Its Hillary's fault.)
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To: Salgak
Unfortunately I think GWB is clearing the decks for Jeb. This can be seen by the fact that he is not grooming a successor by selecting a viable candidate as VP.

I just don't think the American people are going to elect 3 people from the same immediate family in a 20 year period. To much like a dynasty. It would also be unprecedented.

MDP

39 posted on 01/15/2004 12:49:50 PM PST by Check_Your_Premises (To crush your enemies, and see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the left)
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To: So Cal Rocket
JD Hayworth from Arizona and Condi Rice as VP! JD is a good conservative and Condi is just plain smart...
40 posted on 01/15/2004 12:49:52 PM PST by princess leah
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To: TRY ONE
That would be for Rudy to kick her A$$ in the '06 NY Senate race, then the only Klintoon we would ever have to fear would be Chelsea!

Which is exactly why HILLARY! will not run for reelection. She will leave the Senate and start her 2 year campaign for President.

There has been a lot of talk about the Hispanic and Minority votes --How about a CONDI / MIGUEL ESTRADA ticket

42 posted on 01/15/2004 12:50:22 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Pubbie
"You only run Condi if you want to depress Conservative turnout in 2008."

Against Hillary???!!!
43 posted on 01/15/2004 12:50:47 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (This week NY is colder than Alaska! Its Hillary's fault.)
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To: So Cal Rocket
I'll go with Owens, and Condi as Veep. Rice won't run for Prez in '08 and she shouldn't. Someone who has never been elected to office will not win the Presidency, except under the most unusual conditions (i.e. Eisenhower). The Presidency is, like it or not, a political position. She'd be a perfect Veep and would gain valuable campaigning experience. Other possibilities (Rudy is too far left on social issues and would be better as Senator or Governor from NY) include Bill Frist and (assuming he retires in '06 from the Senate), Jeb Bush.
44 posted on 01/15/2004 12:51:04 PM PST by TheBigB (I am Elmer J. Fudd, millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht.)
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To: maeng
I agree about Rudy Guiliani.
46 posted on 01/15/2004 12:51:24 PM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: tuckrdout; All
Well -- Condi is pro abortion -- so that should fracture the party and insure the victory of Hillary.

No chance -- none -- that pro-life folks will stay in the party for that.

47 posted on 01/15/2004 12:51:25 PM PST by Iron Eagle
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To: Salgak
I'm quite sure the movers and shakers over at the RNC are way ahead of us on this one.

The reason I say this is they remember the period of over half a century the Republican Party was wandering in the political desert, having lost to the Dems in both houses of the Congress during the '30s, '40s, '60s, and the '80s, as well as having run pallid Presidential campaigns during the '90s.

Provided Rudy G. remains healthy and his cancer stays in remission, he could indeed be a formidable opponent to Hillary; then, perhaps in 2012 or 2016, Jeb Bush could be the frontrunner. For the time being, let's just hope we can fillerbuster-proof the Senate, so the judicial nominees this president has put up can finally get through.

-Regards, T.
48 posted on 01/15/2004 12:51:36 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: thoughtomator
Rudy, sadly, is a womanizer....too many, clinton-like behaviors would be brought up and slung around.

I agree that he needs to beat hillary in the senate race of 2006.
49 posted on 01/15/2004 12:51:59 PM PST by tuckrdout (Terri Schindler Schiavo deserves to have her wishes honored. Give her a divorce!)
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To: theDentist; RightWingMama
Ok here is a better picture:
50 posted on 01/15/2004 12:52:03 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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