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The strange case of immigration politics
Washington Times ^ | January 14, 2004 | Tony Blankley

Posted on 01/15/2004 7:13:48 PM PST by Kay Soze

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:41:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Bush's recent, lamentable proposals on illegal immigrants highlight, yet again, that both the Republican and Democratic Parties heed neither public opinion nor their primary governing responsibility to defend and protect the United States, as it relates to illegal immigration.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; bushimmigration; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: Kay Soze
the GOP's leadership is afraid to risk antagonizing such votes by a secure borders policy.

I think the GOP remembers vividly how Pete Wilson's attack on illegal immigration put California into the Democrap's hands big-time.

21 posted on 01/15/2004 7:59:49 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Kay Soze
This latest immigration initiative of GWB will do to him what the health care fiasco did to Hillary at the beginning of WJC administration!
22 posted on 01/15/2004 8:01:36 PM PST by varon
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To: Texasforever
Tex, putting the banter aside for a minute, you can see how annoyed our fellow Freepers are about this, and I guess the heartland must be pretty fed up, too. But the fact is Bush is conservatism's best bet, even the only bet, at this point. So somehow he's got to change his mind on the amnesty issue before the discontentment translates into voter apathy, or worse. Can you imagine anything more hideous than going through another nail-biting election like the last one?

Now, you're a Texan, and you must have studied him closer than most of us. When he's made a political mistake in the past, say, when he was Governor, how has he handled it? Will he change course if enough of his people want him to? Or is he one of those stubborn types? Cheers, By

24 posted on 01/15/2004 8:08:23 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: iwannabe
You do know Bush campaigned on creating a guest worker program, don't you
25 posted on 01/15/2004 8:08:31 PM PST by pissant
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To: Ben Ficklin
Great Article!

I heard on NPR earlier in the week that the aging of Mexico will push illegal immigration down starting in 2016.

Older Mexicans simply will be too settled and unwilling to make the huge lifestyle change that sneaking into the US requires.

Don’t misunderstand me, I am not against immigration.

We should increase our quotas to our southern neighbor.

But we should be in control of our immigration and not some drugged out coyotes.


26 posted on 01/15/2004 8:12:20 PM PST by Kay Soze (“The Bush immigration plan is heavily dependent on enforcement agencies we don't have”- WFBuckley)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
he's made a political mistake in the past, say, when he was Governor, how has he handled it? Will he change course if enough of his people want him to? Or is he one of those stubborn types? Cheers, By

No he will not change his mind. He is a stubborn cuss. He has advocated this proposal his entire life as a public official. He really believes it is the right thing to do and it makes no difference to him what the political implications are. What is surprising is the number of "teed off conservatives" that are shocked at this. He has been VERY public in his view on this issue both as governor and in his presidential campaign. No he will not back down because to him, he IS standing on principle.

27 posted on 01/15/2004 8:15:07 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Kay Soze
A guest worker program would be preferable to increasing immigration for two reasons:

First, it limits the political influence, and second, it enables these guest workers to return home with capital, which is critical for Mexico.

28 posted on 01/15/2004 8:28:18 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Texasforever
...he will not back down because to him, he IS standing on principle...

Right. As I feared.

We had a poster here about five years ago, Donna, from Arizona. She'd studied him since the Ma Richards days and she knew all about this soft spot on illegals. But I still find it amazing he's pushing something not even the Dems would dare to enunciate. Must be a personal thing, with the President? Oh well, I guess all we can do is hope the outrage dies down by towards the end of the year. What worries me is, you need as big a safety margin as possible when you're going up against the Dems, in case they pull some kind of last minute manufactured scandal out of the hat, that energises their usual stay-at-homes. if this kind of thing keeps popping up, we are going to be cutting into the safety margin.

29 posted on 01/15/2004 8:29:06 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Never mind Tex, he hates anything that wasn't born and conceived in Texas. He especially hates it when he is corrected by someone who is or used to be a subject of the Queen.
30 posted on 01/15/2004 8:34:58 PM PST by Nanodik (Libertarian, Ex-Canadian)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
People knew where he stood on this issue. They knew what they were getting. The howls of betrayal ring hollow, IMHO. So is the outrage.
31 posted on 01/15/2004 8:35:17 PM PST by hchutch (Why did the Nazgul run from Arwen's flash flood? All they managed to do was to end up dying tired.)
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To: Kay Soze
Buchanan is not looking so extreme now, is he?
32 posted on 01/15/2004 8:39:54 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Kay Soze
What if they gave an election and nobody came?
33 posted on 01/15/2004 8:40:59 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Texasforever
That is because that "maximum" effort would NEVER be acceptable to the nation. Until people are in fear for their lives by crossing the border nothing will stop them from crossing.

Don't know about that. I think a year or two in jail might change their minds some!

34 posted on 01/15/2004 8:58:58 PM PST by navyblue
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To: Nanodik; Texasforever
...never mind Tex, he hates anything that wasn't born and conceived in Texas...

Yep. I've seen some of that behaviour.

But my guess is he's a bit like myself, an ol' softie at heart, who responds best to a friendly overture:


35 posted on 01/15/2004 9:00:31 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: navyblue
think a year or two in jail might change their minds some!

Yep let's empty those jails for a misdemeanor.

36 posted on 01/15/2004 9:01:37 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Nanodik
someone who is or used to be a subject of the Queen.

Well when you start posting something that shows your break from the "Queen" I may take you seriously.

37 posted on 01/15/2004 9:04:02 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Thanks.
38 posted on 01/15/2004 9:05:15 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Cicero
Rove is evil.

That W. listens to him shows that W. is morally obtuse.
39 posted on 01/15/2004 9:08:50 PM PST by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: Texasforever
That is because that "maximum" effort would NEVER be acceptable to the nation. Until people are in fear for their lives by crossing the border nothing will stop them from crossing.

Wrong. There are many solutions to this government sponsored invasion.

40 posted on 01/15/2004 9:09:59 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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