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Ten Easy Questions - No Pencils Needed!
Jan 17, 2004 | B4Ranch

Posted on 01/17/2004 6:13:48 AM PST by B4Ranch

Edited on 01/17/2004 7:13:51 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Ten Easy Questions - No Pencils Needed!

Here's two 'free questions' to think about. Audible answers are not required.

Should someone who refuses to assimilate, who doesn't want American citizenship be telling us how we should change the United States to make life easier for them?

Will we still be the Country of Choice and still have our American culture if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is their Country of Choice?

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A New Cost Conscious Plan To Consider

My plan says to all illegals, "Take what you have and leave now because if we have to come and catch you, at taxpayer expense, you'll go without anything but the clothes on your back!"

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Dear Mr. President,

Yes, I'm one of the 83%

If President Bush or Tom Ridge announced, "In six months the Homeland Security Department will be paying a $50 a head bounty for the name and address of each illegal alien on the US of A soil"

"Every foreign national, no exceptions, captured inside our borders who is not in America legally, after the selected date will forfeit ALL of their personal belongings (businesses, houses, cars, bank accounts, furniture, extra clothing, jewelry, everything!) and be deported within 24 hours."

Is this enough to make the current successful illegals, who have been sucking on the fruits of America for too long, go back to their homeland under their own expense? This bounty enforcement would apply to illegals from every country in the world, not just Mexico or Canada.

The forfeited belongings would then searched by the police with their dogs for drugs, illegal weapons, stolen property, etc.

Anything your local Agencies could use, (tools, snowplows, pickup trucks, light and heavy machinery, etc.) would go to them, the remainder would be be given to local churches for distribution to the needy in your community.

Turn in a name and address after the 180 day period. If the person is there and is an illegal you get $50, no questions asked how you knew the information, no ID checks.

Do all this under Executive Order and tell the Courts to back off. This is national security! We don't need any more judges making compassionate laws from the bench on this subject!

The thousands who don't have a lot of personal assets would attempt to stay here. If hiring rules were changed that would mean no jobs. I think the remaining illegals would be turning each other in to get the easy cash.

If we could get illegal aliens to turn each other in, just the ones trying to slip through the net, we would save billions in law enforcement, welfare programs, unemployment, medical care, job training and schools, etc. in the first year.

These cost savings could then be applied to border and airport security. Any employer who has employed an illegal alien more than five months from the announcement date will be fined $5000 per employee. One month later enforcement begins.

This will give employers 5 months to shed the illegals and hire legally papered immigrants or actual American citizens. This plan gives the illegals six months to pack up and get out of the United States without complete loss of their personal property.

After the selected date, divide the chosen state into quadrants depending on population per square mile. First arrest those whose names were turned in for the bounty. Then others suspected by local law agencies. This gives the illegals a chance to turn each other in to the 800 numbers for the reward. When arrests slow down, open an adjoining quadrant.

On the announced date, start in a State such as Iowa, Nebraska or Oklahoma. Centered, not overly populated and clean the state out. This would give Homeland, INS and Border Patrol time to install and train their volunteers and co-agents in various court houses around the country to verify a persons paperwork, i.e. birth certificates, hospital records, court papers, etc. These people would be necessary to protect the Rights of American citizens who don't have the paperwork to prove where they were born.

Go state to state from the epicenter sweeping out the criminals who have so far successfully avoided capture. They already had 6 months to get out, they knew hanging around to test the system carried a SEVERE penalty. They won't be able to say they weren't warned. Once it has been declared that they are illegal aliens they would be treated like prisoners of war. No more phone calls, no TV, no cigarettes, just food, water and immediate deportation.

We have long had the necessary supply of "green card" farm workers in America. No valid justification exists for a new agricultural guest-worker program.

By artificially inflating the supply of labor, government interference in the agricultural labor market reduces incentives for mechanization and other forms of productivity increases.

This is an area that we are known world-wide for. The "bracero","temporary worker", "guest worker", "migrant", the "illegal alien farm worker" is responsible for the US not already developing a mechanized lettuce gathering machine.

The tomato farmers mechanized their production -- with the result that production quadrupled and prices fell over the next 30 years.

Any rise in produce costs would be short termed as many crops have switched to mechanized gathering and sorting during various stages.

Imagine the number of Chinese, Lebanese, Saudis, South Africans, etc. who would be taking the ship home with everything in the house, buying new cars to take home, you name it would be on those ships. The thousands of Canadians who decided the USA was better than Canada would be again headed North.

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Cost Savings

How many schools could be closed? How many welfare offices? How many planned jail enlargements could be stopped for lack of need? How many small hospitals and state paid housing tracts?

How many state and federal employees would find out that they have the time to actually give good service to their American customers?

Oh yes, it would be an economic shocker in the amount of taxes that could be reduced or used to actually improve something needed for American citizens such as border security.

I've always wondered how many illegal folks are on Medicare that don't deserve it. I'll bet that would save a big chunk of money that could be used for American war veterans and our citizens health problems.

Want an approximate number of the population drop? Try 50 million+ with the majority over 30 years of age, having been illegal residents of America for over ten years.

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The Negative Effect To Our Economic Future

When I look at our smoothly readjusted unemployment numbers I see, especially pertaining foreigners working in the US who have no intention of becoming American citizens and are working in the US as adding insult to injury and ignorance. They will generally send home between 10 and 25% of their paycheck. This amounts to billions of dollars every year. The last number I recall being sent to Mexico was $12 billion

This is foreign aid by any other name.

Something our President said he would not do is give foreign aid to Mexico. I won't call him a liar here but I would to his face because then I could explain my reasoning to him.

When a person sends dollars earned in America to a foreign country this takes it out of our economic rotation system.

When you and I spend $10.00 in a local store that ten dollars gets rotated through at least seven different businesses or individuals hands before it stops the rotation at the US Treasury.

The local store owner might use it as wages, or to buy replenishment stock, to pay any number of fees or local taxes, buy gasoline or food at a local store, pay a bank loan. You name it. The $10.00 then will be loaned out again for someone to locally buy a car or home, or to a local road or home contractor, and on the cycle goes.

When the $10.00 goes to Mexico or India, it does not rotate in our economy, it does in Mexico's or India's though. That builds Mexico's or India's economy NOT ours.

The amount of money that is rotating in the daily cycle is one thing that controls our interest rates.

Take the 12 billion dollars that is going to Mexico and assume it only passes through corporate hands being taxed at 15% not the 35% personal rate that you and I pay.

The loss to our economy in taxes alone from a single 12B transfer is 18 million dollars. When that 12B passes thru seven different corporations the loss to America would be multiplied by the average profit gain of each corporation. There is no proper way that I know of to calculate the exact loss of business profits due to that cash NOT flowing through other American corporate accounts. (I'm sure someone does) I would estimate overall average business profits should be somewhere between 4% and 10% so there's another $48 to $120 million lost by the wayside in unearned income and unpaid taxes to our government.

American manufacturers are continuing to close down their plants in America because of foreign competition and unnecessary rules.

This current jobless recovery or lower paying job recovery is a very dangerous trend to continue. It will certainly lead to a deep recession and a continued of deflation of the dollar. This will be very long and painful to grow out of and will make permanent changes in the American culture and our way of life.

Folks, the day of reckoning is not too far down the road. Lets make our decision before someone else does it for us.

Mr. President,

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Please don't just scan this. Read all of it and think about what needs to be done for your kids future.

If you have a better plan, for Pete's sake let's hear it!

1 posted on 01/17/2004 6:13:48 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: HiJinx; dennisw; BlessingsofLiberty; txdoda; Joe Hadenuf
ping
2 posted on 01/17/2004 6:14:12 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: JackelopeBreeder; Beck_isright; dagnabbit; Spiff; tgslTakoma; Pro-Bush; JustPiper; Sabertooth; ...
ping
3 posted on 01/17/2004 6:18:02 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: tgslTakoma; Angelwood; diotima
More stuff for CPAC
4 posted on 01/17/2004 6:21:02 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother ("Never trust a RAT with anything" - Angelwood)
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To: dagnabbit
Over here!
5 posted on 01/17/2004 6:23:01 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother ("Never trust a RAT with anything" - Angelwood)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Penny; expatguy; nuconvert; stopem; Colorado Buckeye; johnb838; ...
ping
8 posted on 01/17/2004 6:32:11 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Next time I'll have you make the corrections for me. That way if you make a mistake I can ridicule you. Deal?
9 posted on 01/17/2004 6:33:43 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; gitmogrunt; ...
major need to read
10 posted on 01/17/2004 6:40:10 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: B4Ranch
...My plan says to all illegals, "Take what you have and leave now because if we have to come and catch you, at taxpayer expense, you'll go without anything but the clothes on your back!"...

Seems kind of harsh.

I like it.

12 posted on 01/17/2004 6:48:56 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Done, as you suggested. Thanks
13 posted on 01/17/2004 6:49:45 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
I don't think it's too harsh
14 posted on 01/17/2004 6:52:23 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
Some interesting thoughts, however, I didn't like Mr. Bush's immigration policies when he he was running in 2000. But I voted for him. Still don't like his policies; will still vote for him.
15 posted on 01/17/2004 6:56:26 AM PST by nuconvert ( "It had only one fault. It was kind of lousy.")
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To: B4Ranch
My own version would be far more unpleasant, but I am an unpleasant guy.
16 posted on 01/17/2004 6:59:29 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Many will find this plan as not being compassionate to the criminals. I'm thinking of how this situation is affecting yours and my American children, not the law breakers kids.
17 posted on 01/17/2004 7:05:31 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
#1 Someone enters your home in the dark of night through an unlocked window. Is this person a Friend or Foe?

Neither. This person is "dead."

18 posted on 01/17/2004 7:07:06 AM PST by Palmetto
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To: Palmetto
We don't shoot the illegal border crossers, we feed them and give them free medical care for being stupid when they don't plan ahead.
19 posted on 01/17/2004 7:10:53 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: nuconvert
Some interesting thoughts, however, I didn't like Mr. Bush's immigration policies when he he was running in 2000. But I voted for him. Still don't like his policies; will still vote for him.

Same here. Much as I dispise this new policy, I don't see any of the dems offering anything better, and in most cases theirs is probably worse. This is the problem, the dems have become so radically leftist that no sane person would vote for them. The unintended consequence is that GW and the republicans are now free to move left in order to capture the mushy middle. In short the center of gravity in US politics is so skewed to the left that even someone considered moderate 20 yrs ago, is now seen as right wing.

At this point I have to hold my nose and vote for Bush, if only for the splended job he did in the war on terror abroad, but he's really selling us down the river in the domestic war on terror.

I think what we need is a TRUE conservative to help bring things into balance, I'm afraid that the voters have become so used to big government liberal ways that it may be too late.

20 posted on 01/17/2004 7:11:56 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: B4Ranch
bump
21 posted on 01/17/2004 7:13:15 AM PST by varon
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To: B4Ranch
Wow! Great stuff!

Here's one from The Anderson Report. The guy who does this website is the former Chairman of the Cochise County Republican Party:

Go Ahead - We Dare You !

Enter Mexico illegally. Never mind immigration quotas, visas, international law, or any of that nonsense.

Once there, demand that the local government provide free medical care for you and your entire family. Demand bilingual nurses and doctors.

Demand free bilingual local government forms, bulletins, etc.

Procreate abundantly. Deflect any criticism of this allegedly irresponsible reproductive behavior with. . . . it is a cultural United States thing. You would not understand, pal.

Keep your American identity strong. Fly Old Glory from your rooftop, or proudly display it in your front window or on your car bumper.

Speak only English at home and in public and insist that your children do likewise.

Demand classes on American culture in your school system.

Demand a local Mexican driver license. This will afford other legal rights and will go far to legitimize your unauthorized, illegal, presence in Mexico.

Insist that local Mexican law enforcement teach English to all its officers.

Good luck!

Write us and tell how you are doing .....


22 posted on 01/17/2004 7:19:51 AM PST by Spiff (Have you committed a random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: YankeeReb
I know it's a radical idea, but how about sending the President this article?
23 posted on 01/17/2004 7:22:50 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: Spiff
Ben lives on top of reality. He's seen how the system works and doesn't work.
24 posted on 01/17/2004 7:24:45 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch; Jimmy Valentine's brother
I read it. I like it.

When are you announcing your candidacy for public office?

JVb and dagnabbit, did you guys know that several DC area hospitals have high patient populations with antibiotic-resistant TB already?

25 posted on 01/17/2004 7:28:03 AM PST by tgslTakoma (In the USA we don't reward lawbreakers - or do we? No amnesty for illegal aliens.)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Gee I read the whole post and I didn't see anything about cat's there at all!!!
26 posted on 01/17/2004 7:42:01 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: tgslTakoma
"When are you announcing your candidacy for public office?"

In my wheel chair, I'm shorter than Joe lieberman. That's tough to deal with for the camera crews.

27 posted on 01/17/2004 7:46:19 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch

28 posted on 01/17/2004 7:48:09 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: B4Ranch
Your "Temporary Worker Plan"will seriously divide the Republican Party.

Karl Rove has obviously run the numbers and decided that it won't.

29 posted on 01/17/2004 7:50:40 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: B4Ranch

Gasp! How utterly terrible to think that families are something worthy to honor and uphold! Where will the mass-wrist-opening ceremony be held! I can't stand this plight a minute longer! Sniff!

31 posted on 01/17/2004 7:56:10 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: southernnorthcarolina
So much for 'border-LANGUAGE-culture.' ;-)
32 posted on 01/17/2004 7:58:12 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: B4Ranch
#1 Someone enters your home in the dark of night through an unlocked window. Is this person a Friend or Foe?

If it is Christmas eve and you have no chimney, it could be Santa. :<)

33 posted on 01/17/2004 7:59:38 AM PST by verity
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To: verity
In our neighborhood, when Santa sees the rifle rack in the pickup, he just leaves the gifts on the front porch and takes the Thank you bottle of Crown Royal with him.

Smart man!

34 posted on 01/17/2004 8:08:44 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
lol!
35 posted on 01/17/2004 8:09:51 AM PST by verity
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To: B4Ranch
I live in the far Northeast, but I would support a plan even more radical than yours.

However, a majority of our fellow citizens don't and won't-or it would be done already.

You will never achieve the removal of illegal Mexicans living in Guadalupe Hidalgo lands.

How about taking over Mexico instead?

36 posted on 01/17/2004 8:25:48 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: B4Ranch
#8 Did you know that having one "anchor baby" would bring a halt to the "Temporary Workers" requirement to "return home" in three years? Gosh, I sorry no elected official told you about this.

From Article: What compassionate country would deport the parents of underage U.S. citizens? Let's get real here. That will never happen!
seal up the wombs

The United States is not as compassionate about American born children of an illegal remaining in the United States with his/her children as you think.

I know of a family where a citizen married an illegal. They had children and later because of a drug conviction (War on Drugs) was deported and technically will never be able to get a visa to come into the States.

These children have been without a father for over 10 years.

The women made a mistake when she married an illegal, but ones heart leads them before the brain does.

37 posted on 01/17/2004 8:30:35 AM PST by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: Jim Noble
Why take over a country that is full of criminals? Fox has done well at sending them up here when they are too costly for his prisons.

The Mexican oil isn't enough of a temptation for me to want the place.

38 posted on 01/17/2004 8:44:02 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: Spunky
Children need drug addicted fathers about as much as we need this increasing crime by illegal alien gang members.

If the mother is a good one the child is better off without that father being anywhere close by.

39 posted on 01/17/2004 8:51:04 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
#1 Someone enters your home in the dark of night through an unlocked window. Is this person a Friend or Foe?

It's most likely me, who lost my house key.

40 posted on 01/17/2004 8:57:43 AM PST by wimpycat ("Black holes are where God divided by zero.")
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To: B4Ranch
Why take over a country that is full of criminals?

Because it gives us more control than the status quo, and because the changes you and I want are not going to happen.

41 posted on 01/17/2004 8:57:44 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Ckck his numbers on how the Dollar is doing under the strain of increasing illegal aliens.

Have you noticed how the Californias economy is doing? California: State's Job Losses Persist

42 posted on 01/17/2004 9:03:22 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
Reference/Bookmark bump.
44 posted on 01/17/2004 9:20:33 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: Palmetto
ROTFLMAO!!
47 posted on 01/17/2004 9:29:04 AM PST by international american (support our troops...........................revoke Hillary's visa!!)
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To: Spiff
If you break the law in Mexico (or they simply decide to accuse you of breaking the law) you will be thrown in prison until they feel good and ready to put you on trial. In Mexico you are presumed guilty until proven innocent. Your family or friends may be able to get you out if they pay several thousand dollars in bribes to the authorities. The U.S. Gov. will do virtually nothing to help you. If you get cocky and start demanding things from Mexican authorities you might cut your prison time short ... and end up in an unmarked grave.

Doncha just love the reciprocity of international relations?

48 posted on 01/17/2004 9:30:25 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: B4Ranch
Your article is very thought provoking and disturbing. It angers me to the point of exasperation that our government is allowing this to happen. I blame the government because it appears that they (ruling elite) ignore the concerns of the american citizen regarding this matter, and are intent on destroying the sovereignty of this nation. It upsets me to think aout it, so I try not to.
49 posted on 01/17/2004 9:34:58 AM PST by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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