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THE CODE FOR HUMAN LIFE
E-Forensic Medicine ^ | Frederick T. Zugibe, M.S., M.D., Ph.D., FCAP, FACC, FAAFS

Posted on 01/17/2004 11:49:25 AM PST by cpforlife.org

Frederick T. Zugibe, M.S., M.D., Ph.D., FCAP,  FACC,  FAAFS

 


 

 

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[Reprinted from the Catholic Answer 9: 40-45,1996]    

A fertilized human egg at the moment of Conception, is the opinion of the creator that a human life at that instant, must begin.
... F. Zugibe
   

The question as to when human life and personhood begins has been made a controversial issue because the proponents of abortion do not want it to begin at least before the first 24 weeks of gestation. There, however, should be no controversy because the scientific facts are incontrovertible. These facts have been obscured on both sides by individuals who do not possess the necessary education, training and experience in science to evaluate and interpret the materials and render valid conclusions or who, influenced by their religious or chauvinistic fervor have reached erroneous or untenable suppositions and conclusions, argumentum ad hominem. Justice Blackmun opined in Roe P. Wade that the determination as to when life and personhood begins is a difficult decision that the court is not in a position to speculate on and there in does not have the resolve since those trained in medicine are unable to arrive at any consensus. The U. S. Supreme Court Justices then carried their defective reasoning even further in Roe v. Wade when in contrast with all other civilized societies, ruled that the unborn is a non-person regardless as to whether it is a human being or not.  This decision then made the unborn ineligible for the protection that is guaranteed to all human persons under the U. S. Constitution.  What Blackmun and the other U. S. Justices were really saying was that maybe human life and personhood begins at conception but since we do not know for sure, we will allow abortion until someone proves differently. This is the mentality of most of the ardent supporters of abortion which is in sharp contrast to logical reasoning when applied to possible life or death situations.  In the field of medicine, the proper medical diagnostic approach must proceed in a rational manner with the safety of the patient always foremost, primum non nocere, first do no harm. An example of this is the patient with chest pain.  Here, it behooves the physician to consider chest pain as heart related until proven otherwise even though chest pain is only heart related in less than 20 % of the cases since an error in diagnosis may cause the patient his life.  I have personally investigated many unfortunate cases in my role as medical examiner, where this approach was neglected by physicians and the patients subsequently died.  In Roe vs. Wade, millions of human beings were legally murdered by the stroke of a pen.  Ergo, the Roe versus Wade Decision should have utilized the premise, ...a human person until proven otherwise...thereby preventing. the slaughter of millions of innocent human beings. In the words of Louis Brandeis, "if we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable"

In recent years there has been a revolution in genetics that confirmed what geneticists and embryologists have been saying for years, that human life with all of its characteristics for a particular human being must be coded in the fertilized egg.  In 1948, Dr. Bradley Patten, one of the most distinguished embryologists in the world definitively related in his textbook ( I ). "It Is the penetration of the ovum by the spermatzoon and the resulting mingling of the nuclear material each brings to the union that constitutes the culmination of the process of fertilization and marks the initiation of the life of  a new individual. In the midst of the current Genetic Revolution, one of the foremost, highly honored geneticist in the world, Jerome Lejeune, M. D., Ph.D., Professor of Genetics at the University of Paris and Sorbonne, related, "...each of us has a unique beginning, the moment of conception...when the information carried by the sperm and by the ovum have encountered each other, then a new human being is defined because its own personal and human constitution is entirely spelled out. The information which is inside the first cell obviously tells this cell all the tricks of the trade to build himself as the individual this cell is already....to build that particular individual which we will call later Margaret or Paul or Peter, it's already there, but it's so small we cannot see it ...It’s what life is, the formula is there; ....if you allow the formula to be expanded by itself, just giving shelter and nurture, then you have the development of the full person "( 2).                                   

 In order to understand why we now know and not just infer that human life begins at the time of conception, it is important that we understand some of the fundamental concepts in genetics. Both the human spermatozoa and the human egg each contain 23 chromosomes. When the spermatozoa penetrates the ovum, the 23 chromosomes from each, arrange themselves in 23 pairs or 46 chromosomes (Fig. One).

                 
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       Fig. One  a. Chromosomes                    b. Chromosomes dividing

One chromosome from each pair is from each parent. It is at this moment that both fertilization and human life begins and the cell divides into 2 cells, then 4 cells, 8 cells, 16 cells and so forth until the complete human body is formed.  
The fertilized egg is called the zygote. Each chromosome is packed with a long string of deoxyribosenucleic acid commonly known as DNA. Each of these strings of DNA is composed of two tightly, intertwined, strands which comprise the spiral staircase structure discovered by Nobelists, Crick and Watson in 1953.

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Fig. Two. DNA SPIRAL Schematic (A-Adenine, G-Guanine, T-Thymidine, C-Cytosine)
             [ b.closeup c. helix dividing]

It has been estimated that If the DNA strands from one spermatozoa or ovum is stretched out and placed end to end, it would measure over 3 feet in length. These strands bear the code for human life and contain all the information necessary to construct a human being along with specific qualities unique to a specific person all lined up in precise locations along the DNA. This code is in the form of four chemical bases, cytosine, adenine, thymidine and guanine that are arranged in various sequences along with side chains of sugars, and phosphates which comprises each DNA strand. The genes, totaling over 30,000 in number are the fundamental units of heredity being made up of different chemical base sequences that are arranged along the DNA strands at precise locations- The amount of information contained on the DNA is likened to a vast biological computer program probably larger than our largest computers, yet as Dr. Lejeune pointed out, if you took all of the strands of DNA from the spermatozoa and ova that would replace every individual in the entire world, they would only add up to the size of about two aspirin tablets( 2 ). As I previously indicated, most of the genetic work in the past regarding the genetic code had been hypothetical and by inference. But in the early 1980's, the Genetic Revolution began when Botstein et al. showed that all of the genes on a DNA molecule is replete with segments of genetic information ( 3 ). Subsequently, Dr Alec Jeffreys developed a method to isolate common core sequences on the DNA for identification purposes ( 4, 5 ). The term "DNA fingerprinting" was born and now for the first time, geneticists could demonstrate that the DNA in every cell of every person contains a code unique to that individual, like the bar codes in the supermarket.                                       

          
        Supermarket Barcode                                 DNA Pattern

This bar code for every person is present in the original zygote. After Jeffrey’s technique first emerged, in England, police and immigration authorities began using it for identification purposes, The first criminal application was used in the Colin-Pitchfork case noted in The Blooding by Wambaugh ( 6 ). Jeffrey’s technique known as the restricted fragment length polymorphism method (RFLP) requires a relatively large sample size and about five weeks to perform. A few years later, another revolutionary advance, (although not as accurate as RFLP) was made that can be performed on tiny samples and in only a couple of days by amplifying specific regions of DNA, and precisely making millions of copies through a chemical reaction known as the polymerase chain reaction (PCR ) method ( 7 ). Every year the accuracy of this method has been improving. Both the RFLP and the PCR methods are currently in widespread use by law enforcement officials and by attorneys in civil paternity cases throughout the world. In my work as medical examiner, I frequently use DNA testing for identification purposes. For example, in a recent beating death, we found a subtle impression of the letters NIKE) on the victim's body whereupon careful observation revealed a sneaker impression The authorities then brought in a sneaker from a suspect which accurately matched the impression and although no visible blood was present on the sneaker, the DNA lab was able to produce millions of copies of DNA from a few blood cells that were present and match them up with a blood sample taken from the deceased victim. The suspect was subsequently convicted of murder.
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Fig. 3. "Nike"Imprint on body (reverse)   Implicated Sneaker
         
              It is now an established fact that the DNA in the fertilized ovum bears the code for both human life and individuality which is passed on to every cell in the development
of the embryo. Every cell, whether it be blood, brain, skin, liver, heart or any organ at any stage of existence can be typed to identify that particular human being. The important thing to remember is that the fertilized egg or zygote contains all of the genetic material needed to create the fully expressed individual and includes inherent complex encoding for individual human interjection and all the other associated qualities characteristic of human personhood.  

  Fig. 4. 32 day old embryo

We can take a single cell or zygote from a human being, a gorilla and a mouse and subject them to forensic testing and definitively identify each species.  Moreover, if one or two cells were removed from a developing human embryo and either typed as to their individual specific DNA pattern or stored away, they could be used many years later to identify the adult individual. Currently, more and more refinements are being made in the DNA techniques with more and more precision and accuracy. Moreover, The Human Genome Project headed by Dr. Francis Collins at the National Institutes of Health has been successful  in constructing a complete map of the DNA molecules with all of its over thirty thousand genes, their locations, their exact sequences and gene abnormalities that was originally scheduled to be completed by the year 2005- Harvard molecular biologist, Dr William Gilbert wrote "We look at ourselves as having an infinite potential to recognize that we are determined, in a certain sense by a finite collection of information that is knowable will change our view of ourselves. /t is the closing of an intellectual frontier with which we will have to come to terms “(8). Some of the new information in genetics is fascinating. Recent information shows that the first cell has a greater capability or endowment for using information than all of the cells following it. When the human code is activated during fertilization, the first cell (actually 2 cells combined) carries out the design for the entire creation and is actually the most specialized cell in the complete developmental process.

a.   b.
 Fig. 5.       Fertilized Egg                                       Two cell stage                 
All future developmental events are encoded in the original fertilized cell As more and more cell divisions occur, the cells are able to use less and less of the genetic information although the full gamut of information is present in every cell. This
specialization or differentiation
first begins at the 3 cell stage and continues thereafter. by a unique reaction called methylation where a chemical group called a methyl group is attached to certain genetic base sequences which shuts off specific genetic information in a manner likened to that of a series of switches. For example, by shutting off certain switches, some cells are designed to become liver cells and can only produce liver cells. The same is true of kidney cells, heart cells, brain cells etc. Another important area that must be addressed is the assertion by freedom of choice advocates that the conceptus is part of the mother's body and therefore she has a right to do what she wants regarding her own body. This is completely incorrect. The conceptus is a separate and distinct human being and contains its own 46 individualized chromosomes different from that of the mother throughout all stages of development. They each have a separate circulation, separate organs as brain, heart, kidneys, liver, the same or different blood types, and are of the same or different sex.  The conceptus is as much a part of the father as it is of the mother. Recent studies show that the membranes that enclose the conceptus is derived from information encoded in the spermatozoa which provides for separation of the conceptus from the mother otherwise the mother's immune system would destroy the conceptus. They also allow oxygen and nutriments to pass from the mothers blood to the blood of the conceptus. If the spermatozoa is defective, a mass of unorganized tissue called a dermoid cyst containing hair, teeth, and etc. results (Fig. 6. a & b). However, if the egg is defective, just a mass of tissue resembling bunches of grapes occurs (each resembling a miniature placenta)  (see Fig. 6b.)
 
The mother only provides shelter, nutrition and oxygen and does not direct the development of the conceptus. The latter is completely directed by the genetic code of the conceptus.
a.b.c.d.
Fig. 6.   Dermoid Cyst (a and b)                  Hydadiform Mole (c and d)    
            (note hair and teeth)                      (note miniature placentas)       

A monumental contribution was made by Dr. Foidart, a Belgian Scientist who recently provided evidence that during the first three months of development, an embryonic hemoglobin different than the fetal hemoglobin is present which extracts oxygen from a special fluid that is present in the intervillous space and not from the mothers blood ( 9 ).

Proponents of abortion argue that merely proving that the conceptus is a human being does not make it a human person.  My response to them would be likened to that of Hamlet in response to Polonius' question, "What do you read my Lord?" "Words, words, words."  The simple fact is that the two terms are inseparable.   A human being is a human person, It has a basic Inherent capacity to function rationally but lacks the present immediate capacity to function rationally ( 10 ). Still, the courts constantly utilize the premise that an unborn child regardless of whether he or she is a human being is not a person and therefore has no rights under the Constitution. The laws in New York State and most other states, all embrace the principle that you are a non-person unless you are born.  I call this the idiot principle because it even includes full term infants right up to the moment of birth.  Our office and other medical examiner's offices have investigated cases where full term babies were killed in utero by various types of trauma and yet no homicide charges were made because the baby was not born. Two cases in point include a case where a lady intentionally kicked a full term pregnant lady in the abdomen to kill her baby and a case where a man fired a bullet into the abdomen of a full term woman, killing the infant. In both cases only assault charges were made against the perpetrators. Many pro-abortionists utilize the definitions from Descartes and other philosophers who define a person as someone who acts rationally, is self conscious, is self-aware, and sentient.  Some pro-abortionists like Peter Singer, the founder of the animal rights movement go so far as to argue that non-human animals like chimpanzees, dogs or pigs are more rational, self conscious, more aware and sentient than a human baby a week, a month or even a year old and therefore it appears that the latter are of less value than the life of these animals thus alluding that newborn babies should be used for experimentation before these animals. ( 11 ). If the personhood principle depends on rationality, awareness, self consciousness, then we are in deep trouble because this would exclude full term fetuses, newborn infants, infants perhaps up to two years old, the markedly retarded, patients with organic mental syndrome. Alzheimer patients and patient's with cerebral trauma who are in coma. Since the personhood principle pervades the court system, one can readily see how euthanasia can gain easy entrance. In 1907, Oliver Wendell Holmes put things in proper perspective when he said "The great act of faith is when a man decides he is not God" and to borrow a phrase from William Shakespeare. "Woe to the hand that shed this costly blood"....the hand(s) that signed the Roe vs Wade Death Warrant.
References
1. Patten, Bradley, Human Embryology, ( Blakiston Co.,Philadelphia1947, p. 76),

2. Lejeune, Jerome The Concentration Can , Ignatius Press, San Francisco, 1992)

3. Botstein, D., White, R.L. , Skolnick, M., and Davis, R.W., Construction of a Genetic Linkage map in Man Using Restriction Fragment Polymorphisms. American Journal of Human Genetics 32 14-331, 1980)

4. Jeffreys. A. Wilson. V. and Thein, S. L., Hypervariable "minisatellite" regions in Human DNA. Nature, 314: 67-73, 1985

5. Jeffreys, A., Wilson, V. and Thein, S.L., Individual-specific "fingerprints' of Human DNA, Nature, 316: 76-79,1985

6. Waumbaugh, J. The Blooding. Perichord, New York, 1989.

7. Saiki et. al. ( Science 239:487-491, 1988).

8.
Elmer-Dewitt, Philip, "The Genetic Revolution" Time Magazine, Jan 17, 1994, p.53

 9. Lejeune, J. Beginning and Development of Human Life in Life and Learning Proceedings of the Second University Faculty for Life Conference ed. by J. Koterski, pp 16-24, 1993.

10. Schwarz, S. The Moral Question of Abortion, Loyola Univ. Press Chicago, 1990.

11. Singer, P. "Taking Life- Abortion" in Practical Ethics, London-Cambridge, UP 1981, p.118
   


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An VERY important reference & bookmark.
1 posted on 01/17/2004 11:49:25 AM PST by cpforlife.org
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To: MHGinTN
Special PING for you brother. Enjoy.
2 posted on 01/17/2004 11:50:20 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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REFERENCE - ORIGIN OF LIFE
3 posted on 01/17/2004 11:50:39 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
THE CODE FOR HUMAN LIFE

An authoritative analysis on the fact that Life does indeed begin at conception.

Please let me know if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

4 posted on 01/17/2004 11:55:47 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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Frederick T. Zugibe, M.S., M.D., Ph.D., FCAP, FACC, FAAFS
5 posted on 01/17/2004 11:58:29 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: LiteKeeper
Yes. The good doctor nails it down beautifully on all ends.

This should be required reading/study (with a test) in all high schools & colleges around the world.
6 posted on 01/17/2004 12:26:15 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
bumped and bookmarked to read when I have some time.
7 posted on 01/17/2004 12:29:16 PM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi (Free Mumia! er, Free Padilla!, no, that's been done. I know, FREE SADDAM!, yeah, that's the ticket!)
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To: cpforlife.org
BUMP!

Many people have been in denial over the obvious.

A quick way to test if you can trust someone is to bring up the abortion issue.
8 posted on 01/17/2004 12:34:45 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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Now hear this: Bookmark this sucker! That is all.

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

9 posted on 01/17/2004 12:51:58 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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This is and remains a religious question, not a scientific one. Obviously it is incorrect that "life begins" at conception because the sperm and egg are already alive.

The idea that a new organism with a unique genome is formed at conception has never been debated. Whether that organism merits protection by the state is a political and religious question and not a matter for science.
10 posted on 01/17/2004 1:44:18 PM PST by Da Mav
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To: bondserv
Won't make any difference. The DeathCult Left has made up it's "mind".


11 posted on 01/17/2004 1:50:15 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Teenagers anyone?
12 posted on 01/17/2004 2:07:43 PM PST by BiffWondercat
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To: cpforlife.org
cpforlife.org,Prolife bump.
13 posted on 01/17/2004 3:57:12 PM PST by fatima (Karen ,Ken 4 ID,Jim-Go Eagles Go,)
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To: Da Mav
An individual's life begins at conception; your individual lifetime began at your conception; you came into being as a human organism at your unique conception. That suit you better?
14 posted on 01/17/2004 6:03:36 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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Anyone know what all those titles after his name stand for?
15 posted on 01/18/2004 2:53:07 PM PST by Voice in your head ("The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom, Courage." - Thucydides)
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16 posted on 01/18/2004 4:14:49 PM PST by Coleus (STOPP Planned Parenthood)
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To: Coleus
Thanks for the ping!
17 posted on 01/18/2004 9:36:41 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Coleus; Voice in your head
Coleus, thanks for the ping. (been out of town for a week)
Human embryology isn't a political or religious matter, as the Dr. says.

Voice, some of the initials stand for "Fellow of the College of American Pathologists," "Fellow of the American Academy of the Forensic Sciences," and "Fellow of the American College of Cardiology." Here's the biography page from the website linked as source for the article: http://e-forensicmedicine.net/bio.htm
18 posted on 01/27/2004 11:12:16 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Voice in your head
M.S. Master of Science

M.D. Doctor of Medicine

Ph.D. Doctor of Philosophy

FCAP Fellow of the College of American Pathologists

FACC Fellow of the American College of Cardiology

FAAFS Fellow of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences

23 posted on 01/28/2006 2:26:36 PM PST by ExGeeEye (What a long, strange trip it's going to be...)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; wagglebee

Great!! I've this thread bookmarked!!


24 posted on 01/28/2006 5:43:00 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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Ping!

25 posted on 01/28/2006 8:13:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: cpforlife.org
Very good basic lesson, from science and sound reason, of the fact that a zygote is undeniably human life.
26 posted on 02/06/2006 6:48:43 PM PST by unspun (unspun.info | What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus

Special thanks, K. It is my desire to interject into every ESCR, cloning, or abortion thread the TRUTH that the newly alive human being does all the building and differentiates ITS cells even as early as the morulla stage, since some cells will be tasking to build the placental encapsulation (first organ for survival) and umbilicus while others will build the body of other organs for survival in the air world. The good doctor of the article has already done this so I'll step aside without further comment. (PS- thanks for the note and link, Coleus.)


27 posted on 02/07/2006 10:17:28 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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bump for later


28 posted on 02/07/2006 10:19:03 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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**A fertilized human egg at the moment of Conception, is the opinion of the creator that a human life at that instant, must begin.... F. Zugibe**

BTTT!


29 posted on 02/07/2006 10:44:46 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Catholic Discussion Ping!

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30 posted on 02/07/2006 10:47:55 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Thanks for the article.

Interesting character, Francis Crick, who unraveled so much about DNA. He was an atheist, spent his entire science career, even switched disciplines, searching to prove scientifically that DNA design and evolution did not need or infer a Creator. The more he discovered about DNA, the less plausible his position became.

Eventually he devolved into a theorist and came up with "panspermia" to try and explain the mysterious coded "seed" that starts the process of life.


31 posted on 02/08/2006 5:51:32 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf
Just finished an excellent book on the topic of 'the case for a Creator'. You would enjoy it, I'm certain: Lee Strobel, The Case For A Creator, from Zondervan. Crick was so devoted to deny God that he choked on all the evidence for design in the creation.
32 posted on 02/08/2006 6:37:02 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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A Catholic

Respect Life Curriculum

For
High School
College
and adult study

Spring 2006

CpForLife.org


33 posted on 02/08/2006 6:54:49 AM PST by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: MHGinTN

About Crick and his work:

http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/SC/Views/Exhibit/narrative/defining.html


34 posted on 02/08/2006 7:05:06 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Da Mav
You wrote: "The idea that a new organism with a unique genome is formed at conception has never been debated. Whether that organism merits protection by the state is a political and religious question and not a matter for science."

It is true that biological investigation can only tell you who is a member of the human species, meaning humans of all ages and stages of development, both sexes, and all sizes, colors, and races. Biological investigation cannot tell you why it matters.

Gone are the days when great theorists of government like Thomas Jefferson could say that it is "self-evident" that "all men are created equal" and that they are "endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights" --- although this is, and ought to be, the foundation of American political philosophy.

Unfortunately, modern philosophy has degerated to the point where, to many people, it just means "personal opinions dressed up in verbal pomposity."

A philosophy worthy of the name will be free of internal contradictions, coherent, reasonable, and based upon observable truths, including social, historical, sociological and psychological. When it is rooted in identifying what causes human nature to flourish and be perfected, this tradition is called "Natural Law."

Religious thinkers would say that. since human beings were created in the image and likeness of God, we can only discern what would constitute "the perfection of the human nature" by looking to God in Christ.

However, for those who don't believe in God, there is still a Natural Law based on what "most people" are convinced constitutes individual human virtue and excellence, and the collective flourishing of human communities over time.

OK. The bottom line, according to the foundations of American political philosophy, is this: to prove that an entity is a human being, suffices to prove that this entity is endowed with rights, the protection of which is the basic function of government.

35 posted on 02/08/2006 7:14:03 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Choice cannot be the paramount value in any course of action which has a victim.)
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To: cpforlife.org

Bookmarking this one for sure.


36 posted on 02/08/2006 7:18:15 AM PST by goodform
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To: MHGinTN
Some interesting comments by James D. Watson:

http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/wat0int-8

" One should see life as consisting of a script, which is DNA, and the actors, which are largely proteins, which are described in the text to great detail. And so you've got a system of a play where you've got a script and you've got the actors, and you could say, "Well, who is more important? Shakespeare or Gielgud? Whose playing now?" And everyone'll go back and say, "The actors are very important but scripts are more important." So we're getting the script for life and, you know, every species has its own script.."

"Evolution only occurs by creating variants, and a lot of variation is harmful to the individual who carries it. So evolution is not a kind thing, and we're all products of evolution. Well society, you know, says we're products of God. We're products of evolution and it's very different. You know, a just God wouldn't have done anything which didn't have a purpose. But I think like most biologists, we don't think there's anyone to answer our prayers and change the course of destiny. So, I mean, scientists and doctors, you know, have this right of change -- have this ability to change the future. In that sense we are the gods, and people are, of course, afraid of evil gods, and then for some people, you know, my way of speaking right now is just totally inappropriate and sacrilegious, and you know, in some countries they'd shoot me, or just --You know, saying there's no one up there in the heaven telling us what to do, but I don't think there is. "
37 posted on 02/08/2006 7:20:11 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: ExGeeEye

He's also the former Medical Examiner for Rockland County, New York and an expert on crucifixion and the Shroud of Turin.


38 posted on 02/08/2006 7:23:46 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Salvation

Good stuff and well-written for the layman's understanding.


39 posted on 02/08/2006 8:02:36 AM PST by Bigg Red
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To: Bigg Red

Wow, I'm going to show this to my Anatomy and Phys teacher. We are studying DNA replication for the next 2 weeks.


40 posted on 02/08/2006 8:07:49 AM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: JoJo Gunn

Hey JoJo Gunn. What's happening hot stuff?


41 posted on 02/08/2006 8:09:36 AM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: brwnsuga

You might find these articles interesting:

About DNA replication (and why pesky science just won't quite validate Darwin...but validating Darwin is the scientists' challenge!)
http://www.gene-watch.org/genewatch/articles/16-3commoner.html

About DNA as coded "language"
http://gnmagazine.org/issues/gn58/tinycode.htm

Just an interesting discussion
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v16/i2/soup.asp#top


42 posted on 02/08/2006 9:29:28 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf

Thank you.


43 posted on 02/08/2006 9:59:58 AM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: cpforlife.org

..BIG bump for Life...


44 posted on 02/08/2006 10:02:41 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: WalterSkinner

Ping/bump and all that good stuff. A lot of info in this article


45 posted on 02/08/2006 12:07:27 PM PST by thehumanlynx (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
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To: BiffWondercat
Nah, I'd say indoctrinated college students.
46 posted on 02/08/2006 3:24:51 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)
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To: silverleaf
"Panspermia" refers only to the idea that life is exceedingly ancient, originated somewhere else, and arrives here from space.

Given the incredible depth of code available in DNA, it's entirely possible that life is so ancient that it originated in a distant universe that has not existed for trillions of eons.

The competing doctrine is that of "little Earth" ~ where, it's believed that life arose as a consequence of natural processes we can all understand, and that it "evolved" in the last half billion years (after 3.5 billion years of no change whatsoever) into a plethora of critters.

Panspermia says nothing whatsoever about evolution, per se. "Little Earth" doctrines require evolution.

So far, neither view has been demonstrated to be true or false.

47 posted on 02/08/2006 3:44:07 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Actually Crick suggested that "we" evolved twice, once from random chance into intelligent beings in another universe "far far away", who then seeded the earth to start life evolving again. Crick would deny God twice, apparently once not being enough, in the absence of science to explain the contradiction between evolution and that pesky DNA replication process.

Apparently such theories as "panspermia", when presented by atheists, are considered scientifically more plausible than a God.


48 posted on 02/08/2006 4:09:05 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf

Nothing stops God from using Panspermia, or "little Earth" technology.


49 posted on 02/08/2006 4:15:58 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: silverleaf

So many misdirections, where to start? ... To make comments such as you quoted shows the author has the arrogance to believe he knows what is the overall scheme of this universe and the spiritual component he chooses to deny. Sadly, his eternal destiny remains a phantasm while in the grips of such pride of self ... and Satan exploited that human trait in the Garden don'tchaknow. The more things change, the more we remain the same, vulnerable to the same guile revealed in the Garden. I wonder, do such people think their spirit will drift freely, in eternal peace, if they continue to squelch the still small voice of God within?


50 posted on 02/08/2006 10:00:12 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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