OF HOLOCAUSTS AND GUN CONTROL

Washington University Law Quarterly ^ | DANIEL D. POLSBY, Don B. Kates, Jr

[FreedomPoster]

>>The worst crimes in human history have been committed by governments,

It's called "democide", and Rummel is your man. I throw his research and numbers in the faces of blissninnies regularly. A highly recommended bookmark for all:

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

[ought-six]

WAY too long a read on this post. Have copied for later, when I can read it at my leisure.

[ought-six]

My God, the ADL is setting themselves up for a repeat of 1930s Germany. That a Jew can so vigorously support gun control and and the disarmament of the people is astonishing.

[ought-six]

Betty Friedan has been a communist ever since she was a young woman.

[risk]

Agreed. Humans have to learn how to remember things for more than 20 years.

[B4Ranch]

I knew that. Even communists consider their security to be of primary importance.

[B4Ranch]

You are correct, no lumping. I just wish the segment that would notice the lumps wasn't so small.

[archy]

It is "deeply offensive" to those Jews who resisted the Nazis - or for that matter the Arabs who have more recently tried to exterminate the Jewish State (and all of its residents) - to state that they'd have been better off without guns. It is simply not true - without guns, they'd be DEAD! And as far as those who did die using guns to defend themselves, at least they died on their feet instead of on their knees, at least they had some self respect, and at least they defended with all of their resources that most precious gift from G-d, life itself.

Several years back an Israeli pal took me to have dinner with the fella who'd been his lifelong teacher and mentor. I expected a teacher or professor, a bookish sort. Boy, was I surprised.

Yeah, the guy enjoyed reading in the sunset of his years, but he'd been a Palmachnik during the formatative days of the Israeli state, and had served if the first two of Israel's wars, in 1948 and 1956. And he still had the six-digit number tatooed on his forearm to remind him of his earlier days, though the Israeli government offered free cosmetic removal of such reminders. He wanted to remember....

And like a good many soldiers, from Israel and elsewhere, he had a few souvenirs of those days. I'd have maybe expected an Israeli Uzi submachinegun hanging over a mantle; again, I was close but not right on target.

The weapon he'd come to favour was the Egyptian *Port Said*, the Egyptian copy of the Swedish M45b subgun known as the *Swedish K* to those spooks, aviators and a few lucky grunts who also used the Swedish buzzguns in Vietnam. If less compact than the Israeli Uzi the Swedish kulsprutepistol b was a little lighter, and thought by many to be more controllable, since it's held between both hands, like the German MP40 burp gun. And the 36-round magazine used in the Egyptian guns was an improvement over the 25-round magazine then most commonly seen with the Uzi, though the Israelis finally fielded a 32-round magazine for their gun in response.

Neither was his trophy- there were bloodstains on it, taken from a shot-up Russian-supplied Egyptian halftrack- a mere wallhanger: he had a bag of a half-dozen loaded magazines for it hanging from the gun's pistol grip, in its place of repose pointing muzzledown leaning against the wall by his apartment's balcony window.

His window overlooked a neighboring school, and this was a couple of years after the Munich Olympic massacre of the Israeli Olympic athletes- and the murder of a couple of dozen high school students at Maalot in 1974. It was indeed possible that something of the sortcould also happen in his neighborhood; but it was not very likely that those committing such murderous acts in his neighborhood could get away with it. Likewise, at his advanced age, the once and former soldier was no longer fit to grapple or fight hand-to-hand or with bayonet against those who might come to kill him day or night, as they'd promised, but he and his little friend could make it very expensive and difficult for them as they came up the three flights of winding stairsteps that led to his floor. The old tiger still had a few teeth left.

I suppose he's passed away by now, he was in his late 70s or early 80s back then, just before America's Bicentennial year of 1976. But I expect he remained capable right up to his very last days- and if he's stiull around, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he still has the Egyptian submachinegun he got the hard way- and still remembers how to use it. And those numbers on his arm reminded him why.

[alaskanfan]

"...The rationale behind a gun registration system is to help facilitate criminal investigations.

And create a new class of victims...

[Ancesthntr]

Great post, Archy. That old tiger sounds a lot like my wife's uncle and a number of other survivors. The refusal to remove the tatoos is particularly telling - it says "Never Forget!" (as if they could - but I suppose that it is aimed at those who didn't go through Hell.

[philman_36]

I just wish the segment that would notice the lumps wasn't so small.
Quality over quantity.

[archy]

Or consider Indonesia, where a half-million suspected Communists were slaughtered in the mid-1960s by fellow civilians armed, among other ways, with firearms lent to them for the express purpose by the Indonesian government.[113]

Well, every cloud has a silver lining.

[fire_eye]

Doesn't say much in favor of the oft-repeated claims of how intelligent Jews are, does it?

Fortunately, there is JPFO to provide at least some evidence of sanity somewhere among the tribes...

[fire_eye]

The ADL is a classic example of an organization having forgotten why it was founded and run amok, similarly to the ACLU and any number of other leftist organizations. If they ever were focused on combating antisemitism, those days are long gone. Now, they're busily promoting every aspect of a leftist agenda known to the mind of man, and trying to dress up their presentations with nebulous, flimsy allegations of some relationship to antisemitism on the part of whoever it is they're "investigating" this week.

However, in the aftermath of what an elected Government did to the Jews of Europe, the manner in which Jews in general, and ADL in particular, attempt to ensure protection by going out of their way to snuggle up to the Government here in America can only be characterized as sheer stupidity. There just isn't any other explanation for it; moreover, as Einstein pointed out, an explanation should always be as simple as necessary, but no simpler.

The most laughable thing - if one can find humor in such travesties - is that they are so dissipated in their efforts, and have antagonized so many people of all stripes, that they are probably doing more to bring about another Holocaust than they are to prevent one. Just for example, they run off in full cry, searching frantically for antisemites under every rock (and rarely finding any) every time they see anything with the word "Militia" on it, when in fact the Militias in this country would (had ADL not so completely alienated them) in all likelihood be the first to resist a Government bent on rounding up Jews.

To top it all off, even some of their membership, while admittedly of a leftist bent in general, has no idea how ADL is squandering their money on the pet projects of the various goblins who run the organization, and even less of a clue how much damage is being done to ADL's supposed "cause".

I've heard that the Simon Wiesenthal organization and the Southern Poverty Law Center are in a similar state, although I don't know for sure - I can only stomach investigating one leftist cesspool at a time...

[ought-six]

"Doesn't say much in favor of the oft-repeated claims of how intelligent Jews are, does it?"

I think it was more like they didn't think the Nazis would go to the extremes that they did. I'm sure the vast, vast majority of Jews in Germany thought that after some heads were whomped, and some windows were broken, that would be it. Eternal optimists, the Jews (which is both good and bad). And they say Christians are known for turning their cheeks? Thank God the Jews of today will never allow such a horror to befall them again. They have learned their lesson well, but it's terrible they had to learn it the way they did. I tell you, if the JBTs come again, I want an angry and determined Jew beside me, because I know he will not surrender.