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Bush Offers Migrant Plan Conservatives Can Support
Arizona Republic ^ | January 18, 2004 | Jeff Flake

Posted on 01/17/2004 6:54:51 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest

President Bush's immigration initiative has sparked a great deal of discussion across the country. Perhaps the most interesting debate centers on whether the president, in announcing the initiative, has embraced conservative principles or abandoned them. I believe a temporary worker program is consistent with conservative principles, and here's why.

First, conservatives value national security, and the status quo encourages anything but national security. The presence of 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens within the confines of our borders should prompt the type of reform the president has suggested.

President Bush's proposal will ensure smarter border enforcement by redirecting resources for border security and the war on terrorism away from the dishwashers and landscapers who are trying to cross the border illegally and toward the smugglers and terrorists who are attempting to cross the border for purposes far more nefarious than filling jobs that American workers are not taking.

We can try to tighten up border enforcement even more than we already have (we've already increased spending on border enforcement six-fold over the past 20 years), but as long as the United States offers foreign workers more opportunity for work than their home countries do, people will risk their lives to cross the border.

According to Steven Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies, "A real effort to control the border with Mexico would require perhaps 20,000 agents and the development of a system of formidable fences and other barriers along those parts of the border used for illegal crossings."

It should also be noted that some 40 percent of those illegally in the United States first entered the country legally and then overstayed their visas. Even if we did manage to seal the border from illegal crossings, the problem would still be with us. Clearly, we can't solve this problem through border enforcement alone.

A temporary worker program, coupled with serious workplace enforcement, would bring those who are in the shadows out into the open. Temporary workers would be registered. We would finally know who they are, how long they've been here, and when they must return to their home country or change their status.

Again, the "carrot" of a temporary worker program must be coupled with the "stick" of workplace enforcement. With a reasonable legal avenue available, workers should have no excuse for not utilizing it and employers should have no excuse for hiring those who do not.

The latter point is important. Conservatives respect the law. Our current immigration laws, everyone will agree, are so convoluted and out of touch with how people actually organize their lives that it does not foster respect for the law. If we want the law to be enforced, we need to have a law that can realistically be enforced given our labor needs. Which brings me to another point.

Conservatives recognize that America has a need for labor that Americans are unable or unwilling to fill. This is the case today, and will increasingly be the case in years to come as our workforce becomes older and better educated. Now, some will dispute this, noting that "there are some 10 million unemployed in this country, and some 10 million illegal aliens - do the math!"

This math adds up only if you accept that it is the federal government's role, for example, to persuade an unemployed fisherman in Maine to take a job as a landscaper in Phoenix. Or to move an unemployed schoolteacher in Indiana to the lettuce fields in Yuma. The former Soviet Union tried and failed with this type of economic planning for decades. Cuba is still trying. Neither are examples that conservatives should seek to emulate.

Third, conservatives are compassionate, despite what liberals will tell you. The fact that hundreds of illegal aliens, many of whom are women and children, die in the desert each year should compel us to action. Because a temporary worker program would allow workers to enter and exit the country through border checkpoints, the incentive to risk one's life in the desert would be diminished considerably. Under the current situation, those illegally crossing the border in search of work must make the calculation of whether to endure long periods, even years, without seeing their families, or to attempt to bring their families with them. The latter choice often leads to deadly consequences.

Finally, we conservatives are called conservatives because we want to "conserve" practices and principles that have withstood the test of time. There is little about the status quo in immigration policy that is worth conserving. Bush recognizes this. We conservatives, whether we agree with every detail of his plan or not, should applaud him for it.


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1 posted on 01/17/2004 6:54:52 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
There is nothing conservative about this plan. Who does Flake think he's kidding?
2 posted on 01/17/2004 6:59:32 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Bush's plan encourages illegals to register themselves and their employers. Once registered, we know where they live and work. That eases our task of enforcing the law.

Then Bush's new immigration makes them all go home after 3 years in order to apply for more time here.

Thus, they deport themselves finally, a far better solution than using force to militarily round up 8 million illegals, house them in temporary concentration camps, and eventually march them home in great masses like battlefield refugees.

Ergo, Bush's plan makes far too much sense. We should endlessly complain about it.

3 posted on 01/17/2004 7:01:14 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: JustPiper; gubamyster
A Congressman Flake tells us amnesty is wonderful Ping.
4 posted on 01/17/2004 7:02:58 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"Who does Flake think he's kidding?"

Oh, don't mind 'ol Jeff - he's a Flake just like the rest of those "conservatives" who think a Mexico Merge means national security.

5 posted on 01/17/2004 7:06:31 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Southack
Then Bush's new immigration makes them all go home after 3 years in order to apply for more time here.

You know full well immigration laws are simply not enforced, no one will be made to go home, and they will eventually get citizenship. Especially after we hear endless sob stories from the media and democrats along with congressmen like Flake who'll tell us the world is going to come to an end if we don't let them stay.

We're setting ourselves to be suckers... again.

6 posted on 01/17/2004 7:07:56 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Southack
It's not going to pass the House because Rep. John Hostettler who is Chairman of the Immigration SubCommittee, is against it:

Opponents Believe They Can Stop Immigration Plan



http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=2850
7 posted on 01/17/2004 7:08:40 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: Southack
Ah yes, now I see the logic.

First we once again tell them that it is okay to come into the country illegally. Then we tell them that we will provide them with jobs if they register and promise to go home eventually.

Then we promise the Americans that we will indeed enforce the laws already on the books that we have refused to enforce so far, and presto, we have a perfect solution!

If the Mexicans don't buy into it, we can promise them retirement funds send to their Mexican families for life.

If the Americans don't buy it, we will really, really promise to enfore those those nasty old laws that we already said are too hard to enforce.

Sooner or later everyone will be happy.

If we need guest workers in this country, and I don't believe we do, those jobs should only be offered to foreigners that are NOT already in this country. You want to apply for one? Go home first.
8 posted on 01/17/2004 7:11:25 PM PST by Marak (Let me turn you on to Fantasy.)
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To: azhenfud
Oh, don't mind 'ol Jeff - he's a Flake just like the rest of those "conservatives" who think a Mexico Merge means national security.

The only thing that means is Mexican politicians running our internal affairs. No thanks, they can't even run their own country.

9 posted on 01/17/2004 7:12:06 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Tancredo said he has enough votes to block it in the House.
10 posted on 01/17/2004 7:14:51 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: Southack
Bush's plan won't work. By admission, almost half of the illegals were previously legal entries who overstayed their visas. We already know who they are and where they were. So, when their 3-year work arrangement expires, they can either apply for permanent entry or go back underground again. We already have a precedent in Europe. The guest worker program has resulted in more illegal immigrants in Germany, not less.
11 posted on 01/17/2004 7:15:28 PM PST by lchoro
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To: Pubbie
Tancredo said he has enough votes to block it in the House.

I sure hope he's right, this is a disaster in the making.

12 posted on 01/17/2004 7:16:09 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Southack
Then Bush's new immigration makes them all go home after 3 years in order to apply for more time here.

LOL! Good one!

13 posted on 01/17/2004 7:18:08 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Southack
And the PURIST, who won't read this article either, shall...complain and complain and COMPLAIN !
14 posted on 01/17/2004 7:18:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Southack
Amen.

There's no use talking sense to some of these people. They'd rather keep the current disaster than support the first President who has ever sought to solve it.

George W. Bush may eventually be recognized as a greater President than Ronald W. Reagan was. If he is, it will almost be despite the lackluster support his party has given him.

Does it sometimes seem that Republicans want to punish him for the close vote in 2000 that has given the libs such a great opportunity to shred us and block our agenda? 2002 should have empowered us and convinced us that Dubya is NOT stupid, did NOT just fall off the turnip truck, and is a savvy politician who knows that if you don't win, you don't do squat for anyone.
15 posted on 01/17/2004 7:18:33 PM PST by Triple Word Score (2004: Even M&Ms are now BLACK AND WHITE.)
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To: Southack
I Agree with your analysis.
It is like lower taxes. The lower the tax the more the government actually collects. Why? It is easier to conform to the lower tax than to hire lawyers & try to cheat. Said another way, If it is rather easy to document guest workers, then they will conform. If they do not conform to our laws, then they will be required to leave. If they do not conform to our laws while they are here, then they have no possible way to return to the US. US employers will have to comply with the guest worker program too and hire only legal documented guest workers or face VERY heavy fines. The program may not be perfect but it is better than the status quo.
16 posted on 01/17/2004 7:18:56 PM PST by encm(ss)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Well I figured Tancredo would be in a position to know...
PS: Dean will win Iowa on Monday.
17 posted on 01/17/2004 7:20:16 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: Triple Word Score
George W. Bush may eventually be recognized as a greater President than Ronald W. Reagan was.

That'll be the day.

18 posted on 01/17/2004 7:20:57 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Pubbie
Dean will win Iowa on Monday

Dean will be the democrat candidate, I've little doubt.

Another winner who supports mass amnesties.

19 posted on 01/17/2004 7:23:55 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Triple Word Score
Get the knee pads out FOLKS!

Here we go again rewarding the law breakers and punishing the legals.

Hello!!!!!!!!!!!! Any real conservative out there that still stand on moral legal principals?

GEES!M/B>

20 posted on 01/17/2004 7:26:45 PM PST by chachacha
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To: All
Whatta Flake.
21 posted on 01/17/2004 7:29:49 PM PST by XXXXX88XXXXX
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"Dean will be the democrat candidate, I've little doubt."
I knew you were a Learned Political Junkie!
22 posted on 01/17/2004 7:32:58 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Conservative whats?....conservative 3rd way Rifkinites perhaps
23 posted on 01/17/2004 7:36:43 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Southack
Do you really believe these folks (criminals) would actually go back to mexico after 3 years? Let alone stay in the same residence/job for these 3 years?
24 posted on 01/17/2004 7:37:09 PM PST by jungleboy
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To: chachacha
Thus speaks someone who didn't actually read and/or understand the speech our President made.
25 posted on 01/17/2004 7:37:44 PM PST by Triple Word Score (2004: Even M&Ms are now BLACK AND WHITE.)
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To: encm(ss)
[If they do not conform to our laws, then they will be required to leave]

yea, I have heard that before (86). Start enforcing the laws right freaking now and then maybe I might believe it.

26 posted on 01/17/2004 7:37:57 PM PST by jpsb (")
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To: Pubbie
"Tancredo said he has enough votes to block it in the House."

Of course Tancredo wants to stop Bush's proposal dead on its tracks, he'd be out of a job if the immigration issue was ever brought under control.

Right now, Tantrum Tom earns a fat living feeding the unswerving political suicide wishes of the reality challenged, who continually support his proposals without paying the most minuscule bit of attention to the fact that no single piece of immigration legislation he's ever proposed, has achieved anything beyond getting him re elected...even after he swore he would not seek that re-election.

Tantrum Tom is one of my two favorite fiction authors, the other one being Stephen King, and at least he's not trying to pass his stuff off as serious literature.

27 posted on 01/17/2004 7:39:42 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Triple Word Score
[There's no use talking sense to some of these people. ]

Like your 3 weeks at Free Repubic makes you an expect on "these people". What gall.

28 posted on 01/17/2004 7:41:51 PM PST by jpsb (")
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Right now, Tantrum Tom earns a fat living feeding the unswerving political suicide wishes of the reality challenged,"

Actually it's political suicide (Long Term) for the Republicans to treat the Immigration issue the way Rove wants.
29 posted on 01/17/2004 7:47:03 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: encm(ss); Marine Inspector
"US employers will have to comply with the guest worker program too and hire only legal documented guest workers or face VERY heavy fines. The program may not be perfect but it is better than the status quo."

How do we know what's proposed is so much better than the "status quo" when we can't get the current code enforced? The "status quo" already has a provision of severe penalties for violators and is quite detailed in spelling them out; the sorry lawmakers, mangey trial lawyers, and leftist liberal judges say we can't enforce them.

Instead of spending $40 billion a year on Illegaliens who shouldn't be here in the first place, let's try allocating $20 billion in one year so USCIS can reinforce and enforce the laws we have. Let's heavily fine trial lawyers and anyone else who obstructs USCIS from doing their job, under penalties of RICO. Bush's plan does nothing to strengthen our Immigration code - only to weaken it.

Personnally, when the USCS hears the case(s) over indefinitely held detainees, I hope they force Bush's Admin to either enforce the entire code or nullify it completely, which would be essentially forcing the release of those detained after 9/11. Maybe then Bush will see that our Immigration code is law for a reason, and that we need it reinforced and enforced - all of it.

Let's give our Border Patrol and Marshals as much support as we give our Armed Services personnel, our most critical battleline is here at home.

30 posted on 01/17/2004 7:51:52 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Triple Word Score
There's no use talking sense to some of these people. They'd rather keep the current disaster than support the first President who has ever sought to solve it.

How about we enforce the laws already on the books? Just once I'd like to see it tried.

31 posted on 01/17/2004 7:57:47 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Just once I'd like to see it tried.

The Fed IS enforcing the laws but the problem overwhelms the resources. If the states do not line up in support of enforcing the laws then it can't be done. You have no idea how much a lot of states economic health is tied up in this issue.

32 posted on 01/17/2004 8:00:53 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"offers foreign workers more opportunity for work than their home countries do"

Simple suggestion: why not prosecute the employers?

33 posted on 01/17/2004 8:00:59 PM PST by truthandjustice1
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I see Mr. Flake really has his finger on the pulse of the conservative voter. Knows 'em like the back of his own hand.
34 posted on 01/17/2004 8:03:09 PM PST by WayneM (Cut the KRAP (Karl Rove Amnesty Plan). Call your elected officials and say "NO!!")
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To: Southack
Thus, they deport themselves finally

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!! That's a good one.
35 posted on 01/17/2004 8:08:27 PM PST by kenth (This is not a tagline. You're hallucinating.)
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To: Southack
"Then Bush's new immigration makes them all go home after 3 years in order to apply for more time here."

This is complete fiction. The federal tax was supposed to be temporary too!

The Gore Tax was supposed to be temporary.

How many bridges have we paid for and are still being asked to pay a toll just to cross over it?

Nope, this is just pure Bush touchy feely propaganda. Why would anyone who has tasted freedom and opportunity in America want to go back home to poverty and corruption? Why are so many trying to come in all the time?

And, if they don't have the political will to enforce our immigration laws as they are why should we believe the government authorities will enforce this 3 year limit?

Makes me think laws are for suckers and law-abiding hard working citizens are the suckers.

36 posted on 01/17/2004 8:10:22 PM PST by harpo11 (We'd Be Lucky to Have Our Citizenship Survive a Rampaging Herd of Politicians Seeking Election)
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To: Texasforever
You have no idea how much a lot of states economic health is tied up in this issue.

Well I can't speak for other states. I know in my part of the world there are few illegals and we get along fine. And we have large tourist attractions that need service industry type labor. Granted there's a lot of legal immigrants around, but it's still overwhelmingly the native population here.

Immigration definitely needs reforming, I just don't think this is the answer.

37 posted on 01/17/2004 8:10:32 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: truthandjustice1
Simple suggestion: why not prosecute the employers?

That's the best solution I can think of. Put a few employers in jail and see how fast they stop hiring illegals.

38 posted on 01/17/2004 8:13:02 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
How about putting them into bankruptcy? I'd as soon rather see that as them give America's sovereignty away.
39 posted on 01/17/2004 8:20:01 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: JustPiper; chicagolady
A perspective to consider.
40 posted on 01/17/2004 8:21:28 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
A very sensible analysis of Bush's plan.
41 posted on 01/17/2004 8:25:38 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: encm(ss); azhenfud
US employers will have to comply with the guest worker program too and hire only legal documented guest workers or face VERY heavy fines.

LOL, you don't really believe that do you?

How is anyone going to know if an employer hires and illegal alien and who's going to levy fines on the employer?

Marine Inspector

42 posted on 01/17/2004 8:27:33 PM PST by Marine Inspector (TANCREDO 2004)
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To: azhenfud
How about putting them into bankruptcy?

Yeah I think that would work too. If they can't find Americans to work for a decent pay than I think they should fold up and get into something else.

Why keep importing millions and millions of people just to keep restaurants and hotels going?

43 posted on 01/17/2004 8:28:53 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: jpsb
:shrug: I'm a contributor--I've sent in Real Money to the site. And I know what "a host in front of the sun" meant.

There is more than one way to date a FReeper....
44 posted on 01/17/2004 8:33:39 PM PST by Triple Word Score (2004: Even M&Ms are now BLACK AND WHITE.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Did you even read the article? If you did, did you read it with an open mind?
45 posted on 01/17/2004 8:34:43 PM PST by alnick (The American people would rather reach for the stars than reach for excuses why we shouldn't.)
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To: Triple Word Score
Oh Paaaalease spare us the we can't hear or read defense.
46 posted on 01/17/2004 8:34:44 PM PST by chachacha
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Get Congress to fund it.

You can pass a law to make pi equal to three and another that mandates that the tides stop coming in, but if you don't adequately fund it, you wasted your time passing a law--or congratulating yourself for being tough on criminals.

47 posted on 01/17/2004 8:35:24 PM PST by Triple Word Score (2004: Even M&Ms are now BLACK AND WHITE.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Here we go again with the same old,same old.It's like democrat deja vu all over again.Keep repeating something over and over and people will begin to believe it.

First, conservatives value national security, and the status quo encourages anything but national security. The presence of 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens within the confines of our borders should prompt the type of reform the president has suggested.

President Bush's proposal will ensure smarter border enforcement by redirecting resources for border security and the war on terrorism away from the dishwashers and landscapers who are trying to cross the border illegally and toward the smugglers and terrorists who are attempting to cross the border for purposes far more nefarious than filling jobs that American workers are not taking.

If border security wouldn't work for keeping out Mexicans,why will it work on terrorists?Who's to say the "dishwashers and landscapers" aren't working for a terrorist organization?I mean,those good ol' boys from Saudi Arabia were just here for flying lessons,remember?

We can try to tighten up border enforcement even more than we already have (we've already increased spending on border enforcement six-fold over the past 20 years), but as long as the United States offers foreign workers more opportunity for work than their home countries do, people will risk their lives to cross the border.

There in lies another problem.If they're so hard working and upstanding folk,why don't they fix the problem at home?Instead,they take the easy route and bail on their own country.

According to Steven Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies, "A real effort to control the border with Mexico would require perhaps 20,000 agents and the development of a system of formidable fences and other barriers along those parts of the border used for illegal crossings."

Yawn!Punish employers who give them jobs.It's done for discrimination,why can't we do it for employing illegals?

It should also be noted that some 40 percent of those illegally in the United States first entered the country legally and then overstayed their visas. Even if we did manage to seal the border from illegal crossings, the problem would still be with us. Clearly, we can't solve this problem through border enforcement alone.

He just admits that,though here legally to begin with,they choose to break the law instead of go home,like they were supposed to do.

A temporary worker program, coupled with serious workplace enforcement, would bring those who are in the shadows out into the open. Temporary workers would be registered. We would finally know who they are, how long they've been here, and when they must return to their home country or change their status.

heeheehee!See how well that has worked in the above paragraph.

Again, the "carrot" of a temporary worker program must be coupled with the "stick" of workplace enforcement. With a reasonable legal avenue available, workers should have no excuse for not utilizing it and employers should have no excuse for hiring those who do not.

Except that when they don't hire them,they'll be sued for discriminating against the "guest worker".

The latter point is important. Conservatives respect the law. Our current immigration laws, everyone will agree, are so convoluted and out of touch with how people actually organize their lives that it does not foster respect for the law. If we want the law to be enforced, we need to have a law that can realistically be enforced given our labor needs. Which brings me to another point. Conservatives recognize that America has a need for labor that Americans are unable or unwilling to fill.

The coup de gras of all pro illegal alien articles.The jobs Americans won't do.Sorry,but that myth has been debunked over and over.

Do these people all get a memo outlining the same crap?Reminds me of when the dems were in power and everyone was spouting the "disenfranchised" rhetoric.

48 posted on 01/17/2004 8:36:17 PM PST by quack
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To: Southack
Then Bush's new immigration makes them all go home after 3 years in order to apply for more time here.

For sale:


49 posted on 01/17/2004 8:37:05 PM PST by dagnabbit (Tell Bush where to put his Amnesty and Global Labor Pool for American Jobs- Vote Tancredo in Primary)
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