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Mother taking son to school arrested after CHP chase
Sacrabento Bee ^ | 01-17-2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/19/2004 7:09:38 AM PST by steveo

Edited on 04/12/2004 6:04:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

POWAY, Calif (AP) - A mother rushing to get her son to school in San Diego County was arrested and jailed after a chase by the California Highway Patrol.

The 10-minute pursuit Friday morning ended outside Del Mar Pines School with the arrest of Stacy L. Taylor for investigation of evading arrest and child endangerment.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: braindead; looser; stoopid
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I wonder what political party she belongs to. Did a search and didn't see this posted.
1 posted on 01/19/2004 7:09:39 AM PST by steveo
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To: steveo
"She stated her husband had been yelling at her that morning to get her kid to school on time, and her kid had been crying,"

Well, there ya go, a perfectly acceptable excuse to break the law.

2 posted on 01/19/2004 7:11:42 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: steveo
That cop should live around here. Between the hours of 7-8 am and 3-4 pm, you take your life in your hands if you're on the road.
3 posted on 01/19/2004 7:12:05 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: steveo
"She stated her husband had been yelling at her that morning to get her kid to school on time, and her kid had been crying," Shockley said.

Ah, uh... well in that case, you're free to go! Sorry for the misunderstanding.


4 posted on 01/19/2004 7:12:45 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: steveo
Driving from Poway to Del Mar is a loooong commute!

Could take an hour or more on any given day.
5 posted on 01/19/2004 7:17:10 AM PST by SnarlinCubBear (...too tard to post.....)
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To: steveo
Sounds like a Kucinich backer with a Sharpton respect for law-and-order and hold the mayo. JMHO
6 posted on 01/19/2004 7:17:34 AM PST by johnny7 (“If you are being murdered, raped or molested... please hold... ”)
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To: steveo
The quintessential way today's parents teach their children to respect authority.
7 posted on 01/19/2004 7:19:46 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: OXENinFLA
"She stated her husband had been yelling at her that morning to get her kid to school on time..."

An interesting statement by the mother. It makes me wonder what could put that kind of fear into a woman by her husband. Any rational woman in a normal relationship would not have been driven to such acts for failing to fulfill what would appear to be a harmless directive from her husband.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong on their homefront but it does seem a bit odd.

8 posted on 01/19/2004 7:22:51 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (I hear the music, daylight disc, Three men in black said, "Don't report this".)
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To: dighton
"She stated her husband had been yelling at her that morning to get her kid to school on time, and her kid had been crying," Shockley said.

Here's another one that's going to try the "My husband told me to do something and I have to do it just the way he says" defense...well, we probably have the whole thing archived here for her somewhere...

9 posted on 01/19/2004 7:24:15 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: steveo
Did the kid make it on time?
10 posted on 01/19/2004 7:24:38 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
It makes me wonder what could put that kind of fear into a woman by her husband

Maybe not. She may be one of those perpetually late people.

11 posted on 01/19/2004 7:26:35 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: steveo
I wonder what political party she belongs to. Did a search and didn't see this posted.

Actually, it was on Friday I believe....that article had the woman driving a Volvo station wagon; hence your question is answered!

12 posted on 01/19/2004 7:29:33 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Some days you're the windshield; some days you're the bug)
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To: hellinahandcart
DONKERS
13 posted on 01/19/2004 7:32:44 AM PST by dighton
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To: steveo
She needs a shrink, how about McDermott.
14 posted on 01/19/2004 8:25:15 AM PST by boomop1
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To: steveo
Sounds like this poor mom was set up to me. And what are these cops doing chasing a woman with a kid in the car? Should have just let her go and gave her a ticket later.

I bet they wanted to let the police dog sniff around the car for dope. I woulda left too. Probably charge her with theft for stealing the ticket book.

These cops are out of control, surprised one of those Jack Boots didn't shoot her.

15 posted on 01/19/2004 8:46:37 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I'm sorry but some of us are always running late. Driving faster is a perfectly normal way to make up time. And she would have been later if she'd stopped to talk. makes sense to me. Homeschool is SO MUCH BETTER. no tickets, you are never late, pajama-rama. THAT is when we stopped being late to school. I highly recommend it.
16 posted on 01/19/2004 8:54:20 AM PST by SgtSolomon (bump!)
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To: SgtSolomon
I'm sorry but some of us are always running late.

Granted. Perhaps this woman is the same. But this woman obviously does not exhibit this type of behavior every time she is late. Just wondering what pushed her 'over the edge' this time? Her husband yelling at her? If so, she should seek help.

17 posted on 01/19/2004 9:09:34 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (I hear the music, daylight disc, Three men in black said, "Don't report this".)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
How exactly could the mother throw the citation book out of the window? I mean I've never seen an officer hand the citation book to the peasant for them to review? That seems a bit odd? What was the mean time on this traffic stop? Had he delayed her for a very long time, that being out of the norm? Does heir officer have a habit of twisting the nickers of sobbing female motorists for perhaps an encounter at a different place and time?

And why the chase? You know where she resides. The chase is just soooo California. Just drive to her home and wait so we can all safely live another day without 100mph police cars rocketing down the highway during rush hour and school crossing time.

18 posted on 01/19/2004 9:22:45 AM PST by blackdog (Democrat Party? Democratic Party? Democrat Candidate? Democratic Candidate? Wassup wit dat?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Hi, this is the real SgtSolomon; my mom's computer has been giving her some trouble, since it's permanently logged in with my name. The situation will be easily rectified.

Maybe the woman was having computer troubles.... Who knows?

19 posted on 01/19/2004 9:31:28 AM PST by SgtSolomon (Auughhh! Identity theft!!)
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To: ErnBatavia
Speaking of Volvo's, a guy called into one of those NPR call in shows asking for car advice this weekend. He was a real liberal on his spawn from Washington DC to Seattle. He stopped for gas and found a pool of motor oil under his car. It was discovered that three quarts had leaked out from the engine and it would cost him $1,500 to repair. Instead he just bought a few cases of motor oil to keep her topped off, spewing the used motor oil all over the roads in Maryland all the way to Seattle.

I thought, "How Ironic?" That a liberal save the whales environmental Nazi would kill our planet to save $1,500 bucks?

The kicker was that he was making the trip to attend an environmental summit.

20 posted on 01/19/2004 9:32:20 AM PST by blackdog (Democrat Party? Democratic Party? Democrat Candidate? Democratic Candidate? Wassup wit dat?)
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To: steveo
Oh, for goodness sakes, he is a kindergartner. It won't be the end of the world for him to be a few minutes late. As for her yelling husband, I bet he's in a real fine mood now that she ran from the police and is jailed.
21 posted on 01/19/2004 9:34:11 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I thought that too, but there are two ways to look at it. Mom really is scared because dad is threatening or mom is p*ssed after arguing with dad and takes it out on the police officer who she sees as an authoritative male figure like the husband. Could go either way...
22 posted on 01/19/2004 9:36:45 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: Cap'n Crunch
:>)
23 posted on 01/19/2004 9:37:36 AM PST by spectre
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Nonsense, as usual. The police would have been derelict in their duties to allow a driver to speed away and run stop lights, especially with a child in the car. Maybe the anti-cop and anti-self-governance anarcho-ideologues should keep looking for their long lost poster child of police brutality and societal oppression.
24 posted on 01/19/2004 9:37:57 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Agreed, I take my child to a private school cross town everyday. I wonder how many school zones this female blew on the way to take her own kid to school? She's probably done this before and being pulled over after the hubby yelling was probably the icing on the cake. Police aren't responsible for people having a bad day, you gotta learn to cope with it.
25 posted on 01/19/2004 9:45:32 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: steveo
She had this kid at 39 is suffering a midlife crisis. Like the kid is interfering with her free spirit life style she has been accustomed to.
26 posted on 01/19/2004 9:46:10 AM PST by tubebender (Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...)
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To: cupcakes
...or mom is p*ssed after arguing with dad...

True. Could be. Hadn't thought of that. Everyone was having a bad day I guess.

27 posted on 01/19/2004 10:19:43 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (I hear the music, daylight disc, Three men in black said, "Don't report this".)
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To: Cultural Jihad
I submit that the chase was unwarranted. The cop probably knew that all he was writing her for was a speeding ticket. He also probably had cussed her out when he stopped her, like all cops do, and knew she was taking her kid to school.

He chases her, she keeps fleeing. If he just goes to the house afterward, writes her a ticket or arrests her it's all done with.

Who is the jury going to believe and in who's favor will they rule had this woman gotten into an accident and her kid got killed? Or if she had killed someone else? Still fleeing to the school she (or he) hits another kid in the school zone.

Jack Booted maniacs.

28 posted on 01/19/2004 12:12:08 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch

That is what criminals usually do.

Supposedly he'd have to ask for his citation book back first, in case he didn't see her toss it out of her car when she stole it.

29 posted on 01/19/2004 12:33:21 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Getting a speeding ticket makes one a criminal? That sounds like the 'us vs. them' mentality of the police.

Are you a policeman?

30 posted on 01/19/2004 12:35:55 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: OXENinFLA
On the way to jail, Taylor apologized, he said.

Well, then, that should make everything okay. Besides, her husband made her do it. And besides, the kid was crying. All of us parents know what affect a crying kid has on our judgement. What else was she supposed to do?


31 posted on 01/19/2004 12:36:33 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Help...my grounded teenager is holding me hostage... send cookies!)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Speeding makes one a committer of an infraction. Eluding justice and stealing a citation book makes one a criminal. The anarcho-headline could well read: "Mom Busted Merely for Driving Kid to School!"
32 posted on 01/19/2004 12:39:58 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
At what point does 16 mph over the speed limit make it worth a 10 minute car chase? With a kid in the car? After you have the license plate of the driver and have gotten a look at her face and can ID her again?
33 posted on 01/19/2004 12:48:00 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch
These cops are out of control, surprised one of those Jack Boots didn't shoot her.

You are a hoot.

34 posted on 01/19/2004 12:49:06 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
Why's that?
35 posted on 01/19/2004 12:54:48 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch
This lady is speeding and running from the police and you blame the cops.
36 posted on 01/19/2004 12:56:01 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
>>Did the kid make it on time?<<

I'm betting that since she ran all those stop signs, that he was probably on time.
37 posted on 01/19/2004 12:58:20 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: AppyPappy
Can you answer my post #33?
38 posted on 01/19/2004 1:01:14 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: steveo

"She stated her husband had been yelling at her that morning to get her kid to school on time, and her kid had been crying," Shockley said.


39 posted on 01/19/2004 1:09:31 PM PST by Fintan (Proudly annoying people since 1950...)
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"An interesting statement by the mother. It makes me wonder what could put that kind of fear into a woman by her husband. Any rational woman in a normal relationship would not have been driven to such acts for failing to fulfill what would appear to be a harmless directive from her husband."

It's kind of presumptuous to think that fear motivated her. I've seen women work true wonders of idiocy simply out of spite. I can picture this lady saying something like this;
'So, you think I should just ditch the curlers and not worry about my nails this morning huh? You think its just Soooo important to get little jimmy to school on time for a change, well I'll show you! Just wait till you see the ticket I get for this!'

40 posted on 01/19/2004 1:14:07 PM PST by Outlaw76 (Citizens on the Bounce!)
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To: hellinahandcart
lol...
41 posted on 01/19/2004 1:14:54 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: Cap'n Crunch
At what point does 16 mph over the speed limit make it worth a 10 minute car chase? With a kid in the car? After you have the license plate of the driver and have gotten a look at her face and can ID her again?

Well, she was running from the police. That would make on suspicious of her intent. Maybe she kidnapped the child.

42 posted on 01/19/2004 1:15:24 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Fintan
OMG, that's perfect. LMAO
43 posted on 01/19/2004 1:20:20 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: RobRoy
I'm betting that even though we will probably know for sure, she will have a black eye and/or bruised cheek after her dream man bails her out of jail??

Not taking sides...she broke the law and got caught...I have been in law enforcement before and after her explanation, i'm not sure i would have "roscoe p. coltrained" her.

But then again, you have to take into account the liability aspect..if she had hit someone and a late night cable advertising lawyer found out the cops had her and she ran and they didn't chase her to her death...in kalifornicate, what do you think the settlement against the state would have been.

nothing is really simple nowadays.
44 posted on 01/19/2004 1:30:54 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: Outlaw76
I've seen women work true wonders of idiocy simply out of spite.

We've also been known to turn on the waterworks and regale Mr. Policeman with a heart-wrenching and completely imaginary sob story about our miserable lives, when pulled over for speeding. Sometimes it works.

Grabbing the cop's ticket book and stomping on the gas is a tactic I have never tried, though.

45 posted on 01/19/2004 1:35:24 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Cap'n Crunch
At what point does 16 mph over the speed limit make it worth a 10 minute car chase? With a kid in the car? After you have the license plate of the driver and have gotten a look at her face and can ID her again?

After she decided to leave, she ran several stop signs, and apparently went speeding through the school zone. In that case, you have to consider whether or not her driving constitutes a positive hazard, and she needed to be stopped, as opposed to merely tracked down later. It's a tough call, and could go either way -- but given that the cop didn't really know her intentions, a cop might reasonably assume that this lady, who's obviously disturbed, might go so far as to try to kill herself and her kid by forcing a head-on collision with some other driver. (I guess it's a somewhat popular form of suicide.)

This is a seriously disturbed lady, and I think Dear Old Dad probably bears some looking-into as well.

I really feel for the poor little kid. At school he's got to live with the stigma of having a crazy mom, and at home he's got to live with a crazy mom (and maybe dad).

46 posted on 01/19/2004 1:39:42 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Cultural Jihad; Squantos; wardaddy; harpseal; Chapita; BBPark
Starts here...

Interesting debate. I can clearly see both sides and think both are right...

here

What say you??

47 posted on 01/19/2004 1:41:46 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: r9etb
After she decided to leave, she ran several stop signs, and apparently went speeding through the school zone

Five points.

First, no where in the article was speeding in a school zone mentioned.

Second, under current code interpretation a motorist must come to "a complete rest" for at least two seconds before proceeding through a stop sign or it is a legally rebutable presumption that the motorist "ran the stop sign". Many Californians violate this interpretation of the code section, even at busy intersections and are not cited.

Third, the article did mention that the woman obeyed a traffic light during the "pursuit".

Fourth, the article mentioned that the woman reasoned that the citation could have been as easily administered at the school as at the point of first offense. A reasonable conclusion.

Last, no where does the article state that the motorist was speeding after the initial stop.

The woman's poor judgement with regard to public property (the citation book) and her definace of authority certainly warrented careful examination but hauling her off to jail was an obuse of authority under color.

48 posted on 01/19/2004 2:17:52 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: sit-rep
Well, I tell ya SR, now at age 46....unless I've just robbed a large bank or knocked off an armoured car....I usually just pull over and act polite.

But if my wife was screaming at me that we'd better not miss that 50% sale at TJ Maxx then I might be tempted to go for it.
49 posted on 01/19/2004 2:20:15 PM PST by wardaddy ("either the arabs are at your throat, or at your feet")
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To: Amerigomag
The woman's poor judgement with regard to public property (the citation book) and her definace of authority certainly warrented careful examination but hauling her off to jail was an obuse of authority under color.

Fleeing the police is enough to get anybody hauled down to the station. And that's the way it ought to be.

50 posted on 01/19/2004 2:31:41 PM PST by r9etb
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