IA caucus - Kerry 38% (winner), Edwards 32%, Dean 18% (97% reporting) (Gephardt drops out)

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[calvin sun]

FYI it's being carried live on Cspan. They said coverage starts at 7 pm ET, with the actual caucus at 7:30 pm ET.

[Kozak]

I'll keep that in mind if I need a massive sedative....

[ambrose]

So who will be the big winner tonight?

[Pubbie]

It's Super Monday!

Let's make our predictions:

I predict, Dean by 5% points.

[SamAdams76]

This is exciting stuff. But can it compete with "American Idol" and "My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance"?

[mabelkitty]

What's the weather like in Iowa tonight?

[Glenn]

Pitt is playing UCONN. I have no time to follow the ruination of an entire politikal party.

[So Cal Rocket]

I prefer to refer to this bunch as the Marx Brothers:

Groucho, Harpo, Zeppo, Chico, and Karl.

[socal_parrot]

[Spunky]

it's being carried live on Cspan. They said coverage starts at 7 pm ET, with the actual caucus at 7:30 pm ET.

What exactly will they cover? I heard that the caucuses could take place in as many as 2000 different locations.

[petercooper]

Dopey Wins!

[Right_in_Virginia]

How long is the caucas?

[CTGOPPER]

I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, attended Pitt but have lived in CT for 35 years. What to do..What to do...

[Dog]

How about if we caught an Al Qaeda biggie in Pakistan?

[Diogenesis]

"Frosty" where Dean tried to crash a MLK ceremony.
He then attacked the Press. Now what will THEY do?

[FranklinsTower]

Marxist bros. works for me!

Please, please, and pretty please have Dr. Mad How win tonight decisively!

[camas]

it sounds nice for Iowa.

[OXENinFLA]

Good. The thread is up early.


Don't miss Brit Hume's grapevine on after the news@6:30.

[Diogenesis]

THIS JUST IN: The Democratic candidates.....

[Glenn]

What to do..What to do...

Enjoy the game, of course.

[ambrose]

John Kerry, Howard Dean, and John Edwards, from left to right

[mewzilla]

ABC Radio said at the top of the 5 o'clock EST hour that they could know the results as early as 8:30 pm EST. Gee, wonder how that is?

[OXENinFLA]

Hey, Moe!

[babaloo]

It is 16 degrees in Des Moines now. About a half hour ago I was out running some errands and I had to drive by the Val Air Ballroom which is the site of the Dean after caucus party. There must have been 15 plus satellite trucks there which seems like the press is betting that being the story maybe regardless of where he finishes. About four blocks further I saw the Dean bus trying to negotiate a residential street. The driver had to be lost. LOL.

[RWR8189]

I say Nikita Dean comes in first...

Followed closely by JFKerry (Vietnam Veteran)

Then Breck Girl and Gephardt.

[jern]

we really need Dean to win this think. we also don't want edwards to do that well. clark should be beaten for skipping Iowa and cracking the door for edwards.

[futureceo31]

Wow.. First hand coverage. Bet its a zoo out there if it looks anything close to what is being shown on TV

[JohnnyZ]

Dean 29%
Kerry 28%
Gephardt 25%
Edwards 17%
Kucinich 1%

[kingu]

Thought the rules said that anyone under 15% was not counted?

[Indy Pendance]

'King of the Jungle' on Animal Planet might have been more exciting than this, it's going to be tough to compare....

[So Cal Rocket]

Kerry - 12 delegates
Dean - 8 delegates
Gephardt - 6 delegates
Edwards - 5 delegates
Uncommitted - 9 delegates

[woofer]

What's the weather like in Iowa tonight?

It's gonna be COLD!. Been cold and cloudy all day, like 15 degrees or so, tonight it's supposed to drop to less than 5 degrees, but alas, no wind to speak of. Drats.

[A Citizen Reporter]

Yesterday he crashed Jimmy Carter's church service, and today a MLK ceremony. This guy's a bull in a china shop!

[OXENinFLA]

CHECK THIS OUT!!! Look closely at the posters.

[kingu]

It's gonna be COLD!. Been cold and cloudy all day, like 15 degrees or so, tonight it's supposed to drop to less than 5 degrees, but alas, no wind to speak of. Drats.

Just gather up some candidates and bask in the warmth of all those TV lights.

[eureka!]

Bump for later read. Otherwise, Dean by 10 over Ketchup Boy...

[OXENinFLA]

http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2004/01/19/318213-cp.html

[Doc Savage]

Allow me to spell it out for the Demonrats.

1. Bill & Hillary Clinton run the party.

2. They control the money through McAwful and the DNC.

3. Hillary is to be elected President. No ifs ans or maybes. It is thge singular goal to Bill to actual power for another 8 years.

4. NO DEMONRAT candidate will be ALLOWED to WIN the GENERAL ELECTION in NOVEMBER and beat President Bush. To allow a Demonrat to beat Bush clearly and simply means that Hillary would not be able to run until 2012. They simply will not allow that to happen.

5. Caveats: 1. Bill & Hill make sure no one candidate has enough convention delegates to win on the first ballot thereby throwing the election process open to elect Hillary.

2. Clark, who is the "stalking horse for Hillary" somehow manages to beat Bush. He is given his marching orders from Clinton (who undoubtedly has confidential dirt and this psycho) for the next four years, at which time he is told to step down, thereby allowing Hillary to run to run in 2008.

It is my personal belief that very soon, within the next six months, Bill will make the decision to either run Hillary this time, or simply sabotage the Demonrat unlucky enough to be the candidate. It will depend on Bill's assessment of the weakness and beatability of Bush. Bush's recent alien and moon programs have substantially weakened the GOP base. Combine this with his mad spending and he may just collapse into a one-term President.

Since the Clintons can easily control any of the 9 dwarfs and easily sabotage them in the general election, you'll probably see Hillary in 2008.

[cyncooper]

This is exciting stuff. But can it compete with "American Idol" and "My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance"?

Well, we are planning to watch AI with remote in hand and surf to CSPAN at commercials. We have decided to skip "MBFOF" (not a hard choice--hehe).

[Jorge]

Lurch comes in first,

Howard Mean second,

The Breck Girl wins 3rd,

Gepfart fourth.

[DollyCali]

Hehehehehehe ...

Yes, very difficult choice, it seems!

[mwl1]

Here's to hoping that Dean comes in first... his organization is said to be the best. Gephardt might still come in 2nd over Kerry -- his ground game may be stronger.

[OXENinFLA]

How do you figure in "Peter Paul" and him testifying against Hillary and getting her hauled off the senate floor in handcuffs into your theory?

[babaloo]

It has been a zoo believe me. My next door neighbor is an attorney who likes Dean because he was against the war. He said he would be supporting him at the caucus tonight tonight but if Dean had a majority he would go stand with the Kerry people because he is a veteran. He also tried talking me into going with him and his wife. I laughed and reminded him I was from the "darkside" and probably would not be appreciated there. He laughed and said that there was always hope for me.

[kingu]

Predictions: Gephart wins, Dean second, Kerry third.

(Reports will say that the GOTV effort by all the candidates backfired and that grandparents came out and intimidated their kids to vote for Gephart, the youth vote goes to Dean, and Kerry gets what's left. Edwards drops off the charts.)

Can't wait to see how wrong I am, but in this close of a race, anything goes.

[JohnnyZ]

Thought the rules said that anyone under 15% was not counted?

Yeah, but it's by precinct. I expect Kucinich to get delegates in some precincts where he has 15%, maybe with a little help from his deal with Edwards.

It's kinda hard to predict at the low end because, well, I have no frickin' clue how those fringe votes work out in the Rat caucus method.

[Spunky]

The way I understand it most of the caucases are held in private homes. Who is the host? A woman. Who do the women like? Pretty soft spoken Breck Boy Edwards.

Women always get there way.

EDWARDS WINS IOWA

;-)

[mwl1]

You should go and stand with the Dean people -- just take a headset so you don't have to listen to their nonsense. Every Bush supporter should be at the caucuses for Dean!

[OXENinFLA]

This pic just sums it all up.

[ambrose]

Oh yes, could we see a return of the arousal gap?

And given how catty and vicious women can be towards one another, Mrs. Dean's homely looks may be more of a liability among women than among males.