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Katie & Matt Trash Dean, Elevate Kerry, as Dean Gives "Subliminable" Hint about Withdrawal
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Posted on 01/20/2004 5:02:22 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
Edited on 01/20/2004 5:07:54 AM PST by Admin Moderator.
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Here's the question though...
Is it true that Bush and his people wanted Dean to get the nomination?
Is Kerry a more formidible opponent, or not?
(And yes, if Dean just commited political suicide, I will miss him! He was entertaining.)
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posted on
01/20/2004 5:43:51 AM PST
by
Pan_Yans Wife
(He who has never hoped can never despair.)
To: All
Did John Kerry take Katie's panties home with him....sounds like it.
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posted on
01/20/2004 5:44:17 AM PST
by
Belisaurius
("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
". . . Katie wanted to talk horse race."Go ahead, Katie. We see only a horse face.
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Kerry this morning referred to the ression as the "Bush Recession". If his intent was not to decieve, does this nation want a president that does not even know when the recession started?
To: Explorer89
today show ping
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posted on
01/20/2004 5:47:12 AM PST
by
MrConfettiMan
("Hey, a rule is a rule, and let's face it, without rules there's chaos.")
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Considering that Kerry is the Toons' stalking horse, I'm not surprised the Toon toadies on Today were in full tush-kissing mode this morning.
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posted on
01/20/2004 5:49:34 AM PST
by
mewzilla
To: Pan_Yans Wife; Dave
No doubt the Bush people, and most Republicans hoping for a landslide, wanted to run against Dean.
But looking back on it, it was just too much to hope for. Even former Dem landslide losers like McGovern and Mondale were level-headed military veterans who, while wrong on the issues, didn't pose a clear and imminent danger to the republic.
It was just unrealistic for us to think, in our wildest dreams, that the Dems ultimately were going to nominate such a wild-eyed, unqualified nasty little piece of business like Dean.
So we shouldn't feel bad today. It was just never in the cards. Let's rejoice instead in the good sense of the American people, even the Dems, and take some schadenfreude out of the defeat of this thoroughly unpleasant man.
To: Common Tator
"Did you ever notice that just like the girls all get prettier at closing time, the polls all get real accurate at voting time."
Yeah, and all that jazz about "organization"---really mattered didn't it?
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posted on
01/20/2004 5:53:13 AM PST
by
ontos-on
To: mewzilla
Isn't the conventional wisdom that Clark, whose campaign is filled with former Clinton staffers, is the Clinton stalking horse?
To: ontos-on
all that jazz about "organization"---really mattered didn't it? Bad day for the union thugs.
To: governsleastgovernsbest
and take some schadenfreude out of the defeat of this thoroughly unpleasant man. You're correct... common sense prevails. On with the gloating!
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posted on
01/20/2004 5:54:37 AM PST
by
Pan_Yans Wife
(He who has never hoped can never despair.)
To: Fester Chugabrew
Go ahead, Katie. We see only a horse face. Hey, you win the line of the day. Sehr gut!
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posted on
01/20/2004 5:55:53 AM PST
by
ontos-on
To: Pan_Yans Wife
He who has never hoped can never despairOK, you've convinced me. I'm going to give up hope!
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Clark's an obvious sock puppet :) I think the Toons have their hooks into Kerry, too. Just not obviously. I mean look who the guy's got working for him. I think the Toons have hedged their bets. And it's not like Ashley's got a serious chance.
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posted on
01/20/2004 5:56:42 AM PST
by
mewzilla
To: Pan_Yans Wife
Is it true that Bush and his people wanted Dean to get the nomination? Yes...he would prove to be no competition, the man is mentally unstable, as we witnessed last night, his own party kicked him to the curb.
Is Kerry a more formidible opponent, or not?
I have a funny feeling that Edwards is going to be the one, not Kerry.
To: mewzilla
I haven't been able to figure out the Clintons' strategy. Why do they need a stalking horse? Do they really care who wins the nomination, so long as he loses the general election and leaves the path open for Hillary in 2008?
To: governsleastgovernsbest
No!
Don't be that way... Dean just lost, Gore is completely silenced, Kerry is too rich and preppy to win, and GWBush still has national security as his trump card!
Roll out the barrels... la, la, la, la, la, la, la. etc.
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posted on
01/20/2004 6:00:56 AM PST
by
Pan_Yans Wife
(He who has never hoped can never despair.)
To: ravingnutter
There is an irony here that if things go TOO well in the war on terrorism for President Bush and the country, it could actually hurt him against Edwards.
People won't vote for Edwards so long as they feel that national security is the #1 issue. But if things seem to be going well, and the terrorist threat fading, they might be tempted to go for a feel-good candidate like Edwards. As someone said, he's like Clinton, but without the women.
To: Pan_Yans Wife
OK, you've convinced me again. I WILL have hope. But if this turns into despair later, you'll be hearing from me! ;-)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
I heard Russert on Imus this morning, and I actually think he had one of the most intelligent takes on the whole thing. A couple of key points:
1. The Iowa caucus was "big" in that it effectively ended the campaign of one candidate (Gephardt) and that it showed a serious lack of appeal in the Midwest for an "angry" candidate (Dean).
2. Despite Kerry's strong performance, he has an uphill climb over the next few months because he'll have a hard time winning any primaries in the South.
3. Lieberman is going to be the next Democrat to drop out of the race.
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posted on
01/20/2004 6:03:48 AM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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