Bush urges end of steroid use in pro sports

Reuters | Tuesday, January 20, 2004

[Archangelsk]

And stop patronizing the sponsors that advertise during games.

[gura]

I recommend everyone finish their beer, pop a couple of Tylenol PM, get some sleep, wake up, have some coffee and then pat themselves on the back for being "drug free".

[xrp]

right on

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

Tiger Woods is cringing.

[Archangelsk]

finish their beer

Don't drink.

pop a couple of Tylenol PM

Don't take pills to fall asleep.

have some coffee

Ended my coffee addiction awhile ago, replaced it with water.

[Archangelsk]

Archie Bunker on steroids

I hope for your sake that your nick is a metaphor.

[mylife]

Good for the boss for realizing that teaching our kids to cheat and take short cuts is a disservice to them, ourselves and our future generations

[blackbart.223]

"Sorry, Mr. President, but there is nothing on the face of the Earth that will prevent athletes, and the kids who worship them, from taking performance enhancing drugs until the salaries these overgrown adolescents earn are brought under control.

And how do you propose to do that? Some government mandate?

[Joe_October]

And didn't cost a thing. Well done.

[flying Elvis]

This was a thinly disguised message to the powers that be in Major League Baseball (owners and players union) to clean up their act or risk governmental interference. I think they should heed him in light of their anti-trust exemption or the next time there's a strike, the government may get involved.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I hoping he's not going to set up an anti-steroid department now as part of his cabinet.

LOL! An issue that is on all of our minds.....Sheeesh!

[flying Elvis]

A democrat would have figured out some way to bring in the government before giving the owners and players union a chance to clean it up themselves. The president just gave them fair warning. The players are now under notice that if they strike over drug testing then President Bush may intervene. He loves the game and what it stands for and is not going to idly stand by and see it destroyed.

[bluefish]

Oh geeze.. lighten up. It was freaking joke. Ephedrine (dra) "burns" fat by stimulating the central nervous system, increasing calorie expenditure, enhancing lypolysis, exerting a thermogenic effect on the system yada yada yada.

I don't know if you are being a pinhead and just arguing semantics about my use of the term "burns," or are just choosing to remain ignorant to a fact proven in thousands of studies and generally accepted by anybody with two brain cells to look at known facts.

No moralizing here about whether it is the best way to bo burn fat for any particular individual or not as you have done - just telling a joke. Get off it your high horse.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

LOL Yeah, that sure was my #1 concern! Phew! (An unabashedly stolen comment from a friend.)

[sinkspur]

I don't know if you are being a pinhead and just arguing semantics about my use of the term "burns," or are just choosing to remain ignorant to a fact proven in thousands of studies and generally accepted by anybody with two brain cells to look at known facts

Those aren't facts; most of those studies are paid for by Metabolite and the knock-offs who pimp ephedrine.

[bluefish]

Oh, there are tons of studies. Not all of them done by herb pushers as you suggest. Don't challenge me on that, I can drop a million trees worth of studies on your desk, but you clearly don't read (cept for FR as we are unfortunate enough to witness).

You've just been suckered b/c you can't see through the big pharm strategy - which is to convince sheep like you that that any herb being sold is being pimped. Everything you buy and approve of has been "pimped," my friend. Your use of the word doesn't change reality, cept in your own simplistic rationalization of what is "good" and what is "bad."

To whit:

Research Department of Human Nutrition, RVA University, Copenhagen, Denmark. ast@kvl.dk

.....This is the background for pharmacologic stimulation of energy expenditure as a tool to improve the results of obesity management. Targets are the leptin receptors, the sympathetic nervous system and its peripheral beta-adrenoceptors, selective thyroid hormone derivatives, and stimulation of the mitochondrial uncoupling proteins. Currently available compounds such as recombinant leptin, ephedrine/caffeine, and sibutramine possess thermogenic properties owing to their activation of the sympathoadrenal system. Compounds acting selectively on the human beta3-adrenoceptor are still promising tools to achieve a sustained stimulation of lipolysis and energy expenditure, and several are in the pipeline.

Heh.. one that made it through the "pipeline" and that has been in use for thousands of years was just removed. Just in time I imagine. Can't wait to see what the big pharms come out with next - after their incredible record of success and safety in this field and all. /sarcasm

Quick, issue another snappy one-liner to demonstrate further your immaturity and ignorance. Why am I responding to a baiting troll? Just b/c you have been around awhile sinkspur doesn't mean you aren't trolling.

[sinkspur]

You'll no doubt get sucked in by the next "thermogenic" pill that comes down the pike.

Tried Xenadrine? There's another phony compound that has "studies" behind it.

How about Creatine? Another highly-touted, extremely expensive waste of money.

I've read about all of them, as I lift weights, seriously.

None of 'em work, except anabolic steroids, and I'm not going anywhere near those.

[bluefish]

None of 'em work, except anabolic steroids, and I'm not going anywhere near those.

Me neither. Nor will I get "sucked in" by the next "thermongenic pill." No need for it. I would have serious doubts about the next one to come along and I don't fall for fake studies. I'm too intelligent for that.

You however have obviously not learned how to discern real science form marketing hype studies. To state that "ephedrine doesn't work" is sheer ignorance.

[My Favorite Headache]

LMAO..I love you

[My Favorite Headache]

LMFAO!!!!!!