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Gays should come out on Valentine's Day
The Detroit News ^ | January 19, 2004 | Deb Price

Posted on 01/21/2004 8:44:05 AM PST by presidio9

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:09:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Call me old-fashioned, but the best romantic love lasts years longer than it takes to eat a box of chocolates. And keeping it strong is often difficult, emotionally challenging work.

Thatís also true of civil rights movements. And thatís one reason itís none too soon to start thinking about how to be part of Freedom to Marry Week, which embraces Valentineís Day and runs from Feb. 9 to 15.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cooptingholidays; culturewar; debprice; downourthroats; emotionallystunted; hijackingculture; hijackingholidays; homosexual; homosexualagenda; inourface; pc; politicallycorrect; prisoners; samesexmarriage; selflove; sodomites; subversives; valentine; valentinesday
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You can reach Deb Price at (202) 906-8205 or dprice@detnews.com.
1 posted on 01/21/2004 8:44:05 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
They definetely need to come out and be in our face more. I mean if they don't flaunt it in my face I'm likely to ignore them.
2 posted on 01/21/2004 8:49:43 AM PST by Naspino (Elect Clark/Clinton in 2004. Write in Tancredo! Socialist Activist Judges for All!!!)
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To: presidio9

Deb Price is a news editor for the Detroit Times and in 1992 became the first open lesbian to write editorials for a major newspaper. She now writes the first nationally syndicated column on gay rights. The daughter of an Episcopal priest, spirituality and gayness is a special concern to her, and she also focuses on legislative action and community building. The accessibility of her column makes hers the most read gay voice by a straight audience on these issues. In 1996 she published And Say Hi to Joyce, a collection of her columns with commentary by her wife, Joyce Murdoch. After fifteen years of partnership they were among the first couples to seek civil union in Vermont. The two most recently co-authored Courting Justice: Gay Men and Lesbians v. The Supreme Court.

3 posted on 01/21/2004 8:51:11 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: presidio9
Being a queer is a choice. An abomination and disgusting but nevertheless a choice.
4 posted on 01/21/2004 8:52:31 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: presidio9

Here is the happy couple.

5 posted on 01/21/2004 8:54:10 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: presidio9
Come out as gay or gay friendly.

If you’re closeted, give yourself a gift you’ll never forget this Valentine’s Day. Take the first life-changing steps of coming out — if only to me. I know how scary and awkward it feels. Trust me, it gets easier.

OMG, this is so gay. Why do faggies always have to announce to everyone that they are gay. I don't go around telling everyone I'm a heterosexual.

6 posted on 01/21/2004 8:54:16 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: leadpencil1
the first open lesbian

Really? From that picture, I would have never have guessed that she was butch. /s

7 posted on 01/21/2004 8:55:34 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: leadpencil1
I'd say coyote ugly, but the coyotes would sue for defamation.
8 posted on 01/21/2004 8:56:35 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: leadpencil1
Which one do you suppose leads when they dance. How is that determined among a lesbian couple.
9 posted on 01/21/2004 8:56:49 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: xsmommy

Ewwww.

10 posted on 01/21/2004 8:56:55 AM PST by martin_fierro (Caught you looking.)
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To: presidio9
Every year MCC unites some 6,000 gay couples

My BS meter is off the screen. They do 16.4 gay marriages a day? Plus how many strait marriages? Vegas chappels can't even do that.

11 posted on 01/21/2004 8:57:44 AM PST by bird4four4
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To: Right Wing Professor
Yea, a three legged coyote I know threw up when he saw those pictures.
12 posted on 01/21/2004 8:58:11 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: martin_fierro
hey i thought you loved lesbians, marteen!
13 posted on 01/21/2004 9:00:45 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: MotleyGirl70
Id say the one who wears the pants...uh, no, or the one who has the set of...nope,...must be the one who has the chest hair.... Jeez, I just don't know. Maybe the one who paid the cover charge?
14 posted on 01/21/2004 9:02:39 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: presidio9
A quick query from a non-expert on this situation.

Presumably the individual states have legal agreements to honour marriage licences issued in other states. If Massachusetts issues marriage licences to gay couples, does this mean that the other states have to honour them unless they pass legislation explicitly not recognising them?
15 posted on 01/21/2004 9:05:06 AM PST by ScudEast
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To: presidio9
They obviously don't care who they sleep with, so why should I?
16 posted on 01/21/2004 9:08:56 AM PST by wbill
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To: little jeremiah; scripter

A host of groups, including the 43,000-member Metropolitan Community Church...

The Metropolitan Community Church: Sex, torture and erotic electrification in America's 'gay' churches"


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Revision 1.1)





17 posted on 01/21/2004 9:16:43 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - Now more than ever! Thank you for your support!)
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To: leadpencil1
LoL!

I just figured it out. Your answer is below...

Best two out of three. Seems fair enough. :)

18 posted on 01/21/2004 9:17:50 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: MotleyGirl70
I thought the whole point of being a lesbian is because you are attracted to women, if Deb wanted someone that "butch" why didn't she just go for a guy?
19 posted on 01/21/2004 9:22:09 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ScudEast
Presumably the individual states have legal agreements to honour marriage

Nope, they don't need them. The Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution requires states to recognize each others' laws, so a marriage in Nevada needs to be recognized by Arizona.

If Massachusetts issues marriage licences to gay couples, does this mean that the other states have to honour them unless they pass legislation explicitly not recognising them?

Other states have to honor a marriage legally performed under Mass. law. They can't pass legislation not recognising them. That's why it is such a huge deal if Mass. allows gay marriage- all other states will be forced to recognize such unions.

20 posted on 01/21/2004 9:24:01 AM PST by Modernman ("The details of my life are quite inconsequential...." - Dr. Evil)
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To: dfwgator
Yeah good point!

One of my gym teachers in H.S. was butch. Everyone knew she was a lesbian. She was a good teacher. It seemed she was always lurking around when we would take showers. She was really husky and had the body frame more like a man. When I was 21, I saw her at a popular bar with a whole bunch of her butch friends. The just got finished playing softball. She still looked the same, only more musclular. Just by observing, their demeaner is more manish than lady-like.

21 posted on 01/21/2004 9:28:18 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: bird4four4
Every year MCC unites some 6,000 gay couples

My BS meter is off the screen. They do 16.4 gay marriages a day? Plus how many strait marriages? Vegas chappels can't even do that.

Oh, I think that's a figure for the nationwide church membership, not one particular congregation. So the MCC, which according to the article has 43,000 members, comprises one-seventieth of 1 percent of the U.S. population. Not quite the mythical 10 percent figure thrown about, but this is a church we're talking about.

22 posted on 01/21/2004 9:30:36 AM PST by TenaciousZ
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To: Modernman
Thanks :)
23 posted on 01/21/2004 9:31:20 AM PST by ScudEast
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To: presidio9
I am in a relationship with a beautiful and loving partner. My significant other and I can frequently be seen together at social events and cultural events around town. Because of the stares and unheard whispers of those around us, I feel it is necessary to shout it out ... "we are together, and you must all acknowledge our togetherness!"

My partner and I have gone from being almost completely closeted to being out as a couple to waiters, neighbors, car salesmen, subway riders, co-workers, politicians and most everybody else we encounter. People need to know! It is essential that we tell everyone. We are together. We have sex. We hold hands. We shower together. I think I may put up a web site that has photos of all the things we do together because, dammit all, you people HAVE to not just acknowledge our togetherness, you have to CELEBRATE IT!!!

And we are going to be in your face with it until you respond to our satisfaction! There are millions like us, and we are sick of hiding our love and affection in our own closet, bathroom, laundry room, bedroom, garage, and kitchen, and even once in the attic. We are OUT and PROUD! And we will not stop shouting it from the rooftops until you alter every single thread that holds society together and shift the focus on US. Me and my partner are the central focus of energy in the universe. You are all our audience! Get used to it.

I don't care if we have to completely destroy any semblance of societal decorum and custom! I don't want you just minding your own business as if me and my love life are no concern of yours. Nothing else matters but me and my partner and having our lifestyle be the central focus of YOUR life. It is not enough for my partner and I to just share our love with each other. It must be shared with you! And you MUST acknowledge it! Or else you are a narrow-minded, bigoted, hater!
24 posted on 01/21/2004 9:31:36 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly
Freedom to Marry Week, which embraces Valentine’s Day and runs from Feb. 9 to 15.

I can't believe nobody commented on this.

25 posted on 01/21/2004 9:38:14 AM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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To: spodefly
Me and my partner are the central focus of energy in the universe. You are all our audience! Get used to it.

Yes, I fine example in your own words of the sin of pride. Nobody has to agree or adhere to your lifestyle choice so GET USED TO THAT!

26 posted on 01/21/2004 9:41:11 AM PST by Gerish (Do not be fearful. God is with you.)
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To: Gerish
Nobody has to agree or adhere to your lifestyle choice so GET USED TO THAT!

You are a narrow-minded, bigoted, HATER!

Plus, my post was a parody.

27 posted on 01/21/2004 9:46:37 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: presidio9
Gays should come out on Valentine's Day

And visit Disney on Father's Day, apparently.

28 posted on 01/21/2004 9:47:33 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: leadpencil1
Two men - Ewww, that's gross!
29 posted on 01/21/2004 9:48:54 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: MotleyGirl70
Shortest hair leads. I think.
30 posted on 01/21/2004 9:49:22 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: presidio9
They hijack father's day at disney and now they want to hijack valentine's day.

Those who are public want those "in" to committ professional suicide. Everyone is cannon fodder to their social cause.
31 posted on 01/21/2004 9:50:22 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: presidio9
weddings that in the words of the Rev. Troy Perry “are recognized by God ... but not by the civil authorities.”

This is great news, great news indeed. Can I come with my dog?

Shalom.

32 posted on 01/21/2004 9:50:37 AM PST by ArGee ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." - George W. Bush)
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To: spodefly
Okay, I realize the parody now!
33 posted on 01/21/2004 9:52:48 AM PST by Gerish (Do not be fearful. God is with you.)
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To: ArGee
Can I come with my dog?

Your dog wouldn't happen to be named "Stains" would it?

34 posted on 01/21/2004 9:55:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: spodefly
My partner and I have gone from being almost completely closeted to being out as a couple to waiters, neighbors, car salesmen, subway riders, co-workers, politicians and most everybody else we encounter.

Oohhh, good catch.

I can almost see the conversation.

Deb: (to waiter) Joyce and I are lesbians, you know.

Waiter: (to Deb) Sometimes, when nobody's looking, I pick my nose and eat the booger. Can I bring you something to drink?

Shalom.

35 posted on 01/21/2004 9:56:10 AM PST by ArGee ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." - George W. Bush)
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To: robertpaulsen
Shortest hair leads. I think.

Makes sense.

LOL! :)


36 posted on 01/21/2004 9:58:34 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: dfwgator
Your dog wouldn't happen to be named "Stains" would it?

That better not have been some kind of hateful, beastophobic comment on your part because if it was I might have to ask JimRob to banish you.

What I do with my dog in the privacy of my own home is nobody's business but mine and mine alone.

But if you try to oppose my efforts to marry my dog and give her spousal benefits then I'm gonna have you censored and charged with a hate crime and thrown in prison for life because you decided to worry about something that is none of your business anyway.

Shalom.

37 posted on 01/21/2004 9:59:14 AM PST by ArGee ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." - George W. Bush)
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To: ArGee
But if you try to oppose my efforts to marry my dog and give her spousal benefits then I'm gonna have you censored and charged with a hate crime...

Fine, just don't call her a bitch after the ceremony or she's liable to take half of everything you own.

38 posted on 01/21/2004 10:02:16 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: ArGee
I'm sorry, you're absolutely right. I will turn myself in right away for psychiatric testing and diversity training.
39 posted on 01/21/2004 10:04:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: MotleyGirl70
Why do faggies always have to announce to everyone that they are gay.

Because they want approval for something they believe to be wrong.

40 posted on 01/21/2004 10:08:59 AM PST by jimt
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To: ScudEast
No, President C L I N T O N signed a law that says no state can force another state to accepted gay marriages. Read Bush's State of the Union speech.
41 posted on 01/21/2004 10:14:34 AM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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To: Modernman
"The Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution requires states to recognize each others' laws..."

So, why is my right to carry a concealed weapon (WA state) not recognized by all the other states?
42 posted on 01/21/2004 10:20:22 AM PST by beelzepug ("It'll ooze a bit, 'eads do, ya know.")
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To: ArGee
Waiter: (to Deb) Sometimes, when nobody's looking, I pick my nose and eat the booger. Can I bring you something to drink?

ROFLMAO

Percect example of too much information and why it's good to keep certain thgns to yourself.

43 posted on 01/21/2004 10:22:40 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Modernman
THE MARRIAGE PROTECTION ACT
U.S. REP. JOHN HOSTETTLER


WHAT IT DOES
· The Marriage Protection Act removes jurisdiction from certain federal courts over questions pertaining to the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).

· The Marriage Protection Act will remove the Supreme Court’s appellate jurisdiction, as well as remove inferior federal court original and appellate jurisdiction over DOMA’s full faith and credit provision. This provision in DOMA codified that no State would be required to give full faith and credit to a marriage license issued by another State, if that relationship was between two people of the same sex.

· The Marriage Protection Act also removes appellate jurisdiction from the Supreme Court and the inferior federal courts over DOMA’s marriage definition provision, which defines the terms “marriage” and “spouse,” for purposes of federal law as terms only applying to relationships between people of the opposite sex.


WHAT IT MEANS
· This bill preserves each State’s traditional right to determine its own marriage policies by preventing the federal courts from interfering with DOMA’s full faith & credit provision (consistent with the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution).

· Under the Marriage Protection Act, any question pertaining to the interpretation of DOMA’s full faith & credit provision would be left to State courts and legislatures, where marriage law jurisdiction has traditionally resided (consistent with Article IV, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution).

· Under the Marriage Protection Act, any question pertaining to the interpretation of DOMA’s marriage definition provision could reach no higher than federal district court.

· Federal judges and Supreme Court Justices are not the elected representatives of the people, and the Marriage Protection Act will prevent federal courts from overstepping their duties and legislating from the bench regarding marriage policy.

· Congress has a constitutional duty and authority to put a check on the Judicial branch. In light of recent federal court decisions that do not respect traditional areas of law reserved for the states, the federal courts could be only one decision away from creating a “right” to homosexual marriage (consistent with Article I, Section 8, and Article III, Sections 1 & 2 of the U.S. Constitution).

Thomas Jefferson, 1820: In addition to refusing to seat Mr. Marbury, Jefferson clarified his rejection of the doctrine of judicial supremacy when he wrote: “[T]o consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions [is] a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps...[A]nd their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The constitution has erected no such single tribunal.”

LET'S HOPE FOR THIS LAW.
44 posted on 01/21/2004 10:24:39 AM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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To: MotleyGirl70
Those look like Maine Coons. Are they?
45 posted on 01/21/2004 10:24:55 AM PST by Modernman ("The details of my life are quite inconsequential...." - Dr. Evil)
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To: presidio9
Too sick to say anything about it, they defame Fathers day and now Valentines day? they do not want hetero sexuals to accept them they want to userp the heterosexual history..
46 posted on 01/21/2004 10:26:05 AM PST by N3WBI3
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To: Modernman
Not sure. I got those two cuties off of Google. The one in front cracks me up because it looks like he's laughing. I use him often on FR. Plus his ears are flapped down which is a hoot. Soooooo cute.
47 posted on 01/21/2004 10:28:32 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: spodefly
Are you for real? IF that is your true attitude, that I must CELEBRATE your lifestyle, THEN I wish you all the HIV necessary to kill your body and let the Lord have mercy upon your soul. I don't have to give up all my rights for your pursuit of happiness. If I do, then you can give up your life.
48 posted on 01/21/2004 10:30:36 AM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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To: GigaDittos; spodefly
Read post #27. It was meant as a parody.
49 posted on 01/21/2004 10:33:45 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: beelzepug
So, why is my right to carry a concealed weapon (WA state) not recognized by all the other states?

I was probably being too general in my earlier post. When it comes to the FFCC, States generally have an obligation to enforce money judgments awarded in other states, and abide by other judicial decrees issued by other states (such as divorce decrees). But states can generally set their own rules as to what people can do in the state -- they can control who can drive, who can practice law, who can practice medicine, who can engage in other businesses, who can carry a gun, who (if anyone) can buy alcohol, and so on. That's part of the state's sovereign power.

So as a result, states need not honor all sorts of licenses issued by other states. In practice, there's a good deal of "comity" -- voluntary accommodation of other states' decisions. I believe that this is why states honor out-of-state driver's licenses; they don't have a constitutional obligation to do this, but they do, for good pragmatic reasons. But as a general matter, one state may not export its gun carry licensing policy to other states unless the other states acquiesce. If it were otherwise, then no state could prohibit, say, gambling, prostitution, and such; after all, California would have to respect Nevadan licenses to gamble and to be a prostitute.

50 posted on 01/21/2004 10:45:28 AM PST by Modernman ("The details of my life are quite inconsequential...." - Dr. Evil)
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