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Bloomberg: I Don't believe 'Fat' Atkins
NewsMax ^ | 1/21/04 | Limbacher

Posted on 01/21/2004 7:53:27 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

New York's Mayor Bloomberg, a dedicated foe of tobacco doesn't like fat either - and he thinks it was fat and not a head injury that killed diet guru Dr. Robert Atkins.

Chowing down at a New York firehouse, Bloomberg told firefighters "I don't believe that bull- s- - - - that [Atkins] dropped dead slipping on the sidewalk," Bloomberg said eating low fat bow-tie pasta, chicken and vegetables with FDNY Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta and a group of Brooklyn firefighters according to the New York Post.

Atkins, whose high protein, low carb diet is the rage across America reportedly died after he suffered severe head injuries in a fall on an icy Manhattan sidewalk last April.

When a firefighter asked the mayor what Atkins looked like when he met him, the mayor replied that "He was fat," adding that he spat out the food he was served at Atkins' home into a napkin because "it was inedible."

Dr. Stuart Trager, a consultant for Atkins, told the Post "We're baffled and dismayed by the mayor's comments. Our hope is that this was just a joke gone bad."

The low-carb, high-protein Atkins diet sparked a revolution, the Post reported, with millions of followers shunning pasta and bread for steaks and sausages. Critics have claimed the high amounts of fat in many recommended foods can lead to high cholesterol and heart attacks.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: atkins; atkinscult; atkinsdiet; bloomberg; diet; doofus; highprotein; knockingadeadman; lowcarb; rino
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1 posted on 01/21/2004 7:53:28 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Bloomberg taking a shot at a dead guy...what a freakin' putz.
2 posted on 01/21/2004 7:54:37 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (The only good news for Democrats is they could save $$ by switching to Geico.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
PS: Watch or record the Re-run tonight of Cavuto's FoxNews program - he's got the clip of Bloomberg eating his foot...
3 posted on 01/21/2004 7:55:48 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (The only good news for Democrats is they could save $$ by switching to Geico.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
He's the WORST. Thanks, New York, for Bloomie and Hillary. What the hell are you smoking? Oh, wait ...
4 posted on 01/21/2004 7:55:56 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Bloomberg's on the pudgy side, himself.

This is low-rent, to criticize a dead guy.

Of course, the Atkins' folks could simply reproduce the cause of death listed on the death certificate. In no place have I read that Atkins (a cardiologist) had heart trouble.

Bloomberg's such a disappointment, after Rudy.

5 posted on 01/21/2004 7:57:12 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: nutmeg
miscellaneous foot-in-mouth disease ping (FOX ping too I think)
6 posted on 01/21/2004 7:59:34 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The Smoking Gun is there:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bloombergatkins1.html

You'd think even Marg Helgenberger could figure out if a guy had a heart-attack before he his head hit the pavement.
7 posted on 01/21/2004 8:02:13 PM PST by anonymous_user (Politics is show business for ugly people.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; Clemenza; NYC GOP Chick
Bloomberg is a pompous a$$. As for slipping on the ice, he should pray I never take a spill in NYC. Oh wait, yeah I almost took spill sliding on a log of human feces in the subway. Good job Mayor. While he's playing health police, the vagrants ride the subways and vendors clog the streets. If I ever go to the City, it's because I love the City and not HIM.
8 posted on 01/21/2004 8:02:47 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
That does it for me. This bozo no longer gets the benefit of a doubt from me. Let's hope that Vito Fasella decides to challenge Bloomberg.
9 posted on 01/21/2004 8:05:56 PM PST by Salvey
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
bookmarked for later reading
10 posted on 01/21/2004 8:12:17 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Three well-known elderly Americans died from falls within a few months: Atkins, Katherine Graham, David Brinkley.

BTW Bloomberg is blasted in the current Vanity Fair by Christopher Hitchens. Not on line, unfortunately.

11 posted on 01/21/2004 8:16:58 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
savage put what I have been saying into words the other day - the Atkins diet is a total and complete fraud - by overloading your liver with nitrogen from excess protein and eating no carbohydrates - of course you will lose weightbecuase the body is starving for proper nutrition and is overloaded on protein. Do the atkins idiot diet and you will drop dead in ten years from a toxic liver!
the idiocy of those obsessed with losing weight without just doing it the right way - PROPER diet and excercise never cease to amaze me.
12 posted on 01/21/2004 8:38:11 PM PST by H2dude (the real deal, baybee!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I saw just today an ad from Duke Medical School touting a low-carb diet as an alternative to their famous low fat diet.
13 posted on 01/21/2004 8:41:12 PM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Vegetarian John Troy regained his health and inner peace (and lost 93 lbs.) after eating the Atkins way.
14 posted on 01/21/2004 8:45:17 PM PST by Alouette (Proud parent of an IDF recruit!)
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To: cyborg
Sure he's an ass, but I can't disagree with him re: Atkins, as much as it pains me to concur with this nasal gnome.

Where in our glorious subway system did you see a poop log?!

15 posted on 01/21/2004 8:45:58 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" -- John Maynard Keynes)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Well, we don't believe your bullflap either, you F'kerryin gasbag politician!

Down 60 so far on Atkins. Screw you, Bloomberg.

16 posted on 01/21/2004 8:47:33 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: sinkspur
Of course, the Atkins' folks could simply reproduce the cause of death listed on the death certificate. In no place have I read that Atkins (a cardiologist) had heart trouble.

There isn't even any question about this. He died because of HEAD TRAUMA. Bloomin' Idiot might as well have blamed fatty foods for someone dying of a gunshot wound.

I've had it with Bloomberg. I've given him every benefit of the doubt for far too long, but this is the last straw. Elected officials should not make rude, mean-spirited personal comments about their constituents, even dead ones. Can you imagine what Atkins's family must have felt when they heard about this?

If I'm back in NYC by the next mayoral election, I'll vote for the Democrat just to get rid of this jerk, unless a real Republican comes along to challenge Bloomberg in the primary. (Which can work in New York; Dinkins beat in incumbent Ed Koch in the Dem primary in '89.)

17 posted on 01/21/2004 8:47:38 PM PST by Timesink (Two fonts walk into a bar. The bartender says, "We don't serve your type here.")
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Can't remember which station but there it was... I was thoroughly nauseated.
18 posted on 01/21/2004 8:52:58 PM PST by cyborg
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Sure he's an ass, but I can't disagree with him re: Atkins, as much as it pains me to concur with this nasal gnome.

I don't think his opinion of the diet is what's really at issue here, although an argument over that is probably what this thread will degenerate into rather soon. The issue is that the highest ranking elected official in New York City attacked a dead constituent of his out of sheer holier-than-thou meanness, and that is way, way, WAY out of line.

Mike Bloomberg is like a miniature Howard Dean. Only far less funny.

19 posted on 01/21/2004 8:54:11 PM PST by Timesink (Two fonts walk into a bar. The bartender says, "We don't serve your type here.")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Going pseudo-Atkins lost my last 10 pounds out of 30.

Maybe we could get Bullsh*t Bloomberg and John F*cking Kerry together and see what kind of f*cking bullsh*t they can spew.

20 posted on 01/21/2004 8:56:24 PM PST by xrp
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To: Timesink
OMG I thought I'd get sick of hearing that clip BUT every time I hear it Dean gets funnier every time. Bloomie is just annoying.
21 posted on 01/21/2004 8:58:45 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
Well, about a year or so ago, I was coming out of the station near my apartment and as I was standing at the foot of the stairs, zipping my coat, this guy barked at me to move because he had to go to the bathroom and wanted some privacy!
22 posted on 01/21/2004 8:58:53 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" -- John Maynard Keynes)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
LOL That sounds like a Seinfeld episode
23 posted on 01/21/2004 9:03:23 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Timesink
I don't think his opinion of the diet is what's really at issue here, although an argument over that is probably what this thread will degenerate into rather soon. The issue is that the highest ranking elected official in New York City attacked a dead constituent of his out of sheer holier-than-thou meanness, and that is way, way, WAY out of line.

Politicians don't get where they are by being nice guys -- they tend to be hard-nosed SOBs. Do you remember when Giuliani released Patrick Dorismond's criminal record?

RUDY ADMITS 'MISTAKE' ON DORISMOND

In the days after the shooting — in which the unarmed Dorismond was gunned down by cops in a Manhattan drug sting gone awry — Giuliani ordered the release of Dorismond's sealed police records, including his juvenile file, and described him as no "altar boy" on national TV.

Not one of his finer moments, but his intentions -- defending the NYPD -- were noble. He knows how to play hardball and often steps on lots of toes.

24 posted on 01/21/2004 9:06:43 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" -- John Maynard Keynes)
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To: cyborg
It was very real -- and very gross!
25 posted on 01/21/2004 9:06:58 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" -- John Maynard Keynes)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Did you call the 311 hotline?!
26 posted on 01/21/2004 9:07:39 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
No. As soon as I got out to the street, I looked for a police officer -- and given the high security in my 'hood, it wasn't hard to find one.
27 posted on 01/21/2004 9:08:50 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" -- John Maynard Keynes)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Bloomberg is an idiot...
28 posted on 01/21/2004 9:09:15 PM PST by Axenolith (<tag>)
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To: cyborg
As for slipping on the ice, he should pray I never take a spill in NYC.

The same day that Adkins fell, I got a call from my son, who slipped and sprained his ankle in Manhattan. He lives in a fifth floor walk-up, so he was pretty upset.

29 posted on 01/21/2004 9:14:43 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
The man was healthy at his age. Bloomberg is just whining. I felt bad too when I heard he REALLY slipped.
30 posted on 01/21/2004 9:16:47 PM PST by cyborg
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To: H2dude
Thats the dumbest rant I've heard in a while. Aside from the intro period, once you're into the diet it's more focused on the removal of simple carbohydrates. You eat fats and proteins, but its leavened with plenty of vegetables and even complex or fibery carbohydrates. Savage is off the mark on this one and you'd think that being somewhat of an "outside of the box" thinker he'd give something that the AMA has conniptions over but can never find any negative study results to back up a bit deeper look...
31 posted on 01/21/2004 9:18:32 PM PST by Axenolith (<tag>)
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To: H2dude
You'll get flamed for sure - for some reason, FR is a well spring of Atkins disciples. I wonder if it has anything to do with common INTJ traits.

Anyhow, yes, you are correct - the whole issue is balancing caloric intake with proper excercise. Oats, potatoes, rice, pasta, fruit/veggies, no butter/margarine (olive/canola oil), moderate portions of lean meat, etc. is all anyone needs to stay in shape.

The genius of Atkins is that it appeals to people who feel compelled to eat. Compared to sweets, cookies, fries, etc. I suppose meat is better, but still, the whole point is to make eating 6 days out of 7 a task, not a joy.

Save the 7th day to pig out on anything you want, as long as you can get back on track for the next 6 days.

32 posted on 01/21/2004 9:19:10 PM PST by Snerfling
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Yeah, I remember the Dorismond thing. But at least there Rudy had a legitimate reason for doing it, even if he should have known better. What Bloomie did was just a random slap in the face of a law-abiding citizen now unable to defend himself, as well as essentially being a false allegation that Bloomberg's own underlings were part of an illegal conspiracy to cover up a cause of death.

I know politics is a nasty game, but this had no political motive. It was just Mike being an ass, and he seems to be spending more and more time each day working on being an ass than on being mayor. Having such a jerk as mayor would be bad enough during the best of times; it's far more detrimental today.

Bloomberg must go. If that means voting for a RAT when the time comes, so be it. It's not even about politics or policies any more; Bloomberg is bad for New York, and he'd be bad for New York even if his policies were indistinguishable from Ronald Reagan's. His nasty personality and personal hangups are overshadowing everything else now.

33 posted on 01/21/2004 9:23:38 PM PST by Timesink (Two fonts walk into a bar. The bartender says, "We don't serve your type here.")
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To: js1138; cyborg
Oh, I almost forgot: coming home on Sunday night, I fell on some ice -- and have the bruised knees to show for it!
34 posted on 01/21/2004 9:28:43 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" -- John Maynard Keynes)
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To: Keith in Iowa
What an idiot. What a freakin idiot. Bloomberg is one of those uptight guys who hates anyone who he things has any character flaws, whether that be smoking or eating or anything.
35 posted on 01/21/2004 9:33:58 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Snerfling
The genius of Atkins is that it appeals to people who feel compelled to eat.

Over on Usenet a while back, I remember reading some post in which some Einstein *insisted* that eating pork rinds all day is good Atkins behavior and a sure way to lose weight!

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030919084202.10850.00001217%40mb-m29.aol.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

>>>looking for the easiest and fastest way to trim up. i work with a
>>>girl who munched on pork rinds all day long because they had 0 carbs.
>>>good grief! the schmuck didn't realize that pork rinds are ANIMAL FAT
>>>fried in ANIMAL FAT!! she might as well eat crisco.
>>
>>But they contained zero carbs - she will or has to have lost weight if she
was
>>consistent.
>
>Go back and read the part about eating them ALL DAY LONG.
>

I DID. It doesn't matter.

And this gem: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=DPFab.8082%249G2.7920%40twister.southeast.rr.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

36 posted on 01/21/2004 9:39:54 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" -- John Maynard Keynes)
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To: Timesink
Bloomberg must go. If that means voting for a RAT when the time comes, so be it.

That's easy for you to say...from West Virginia.

His nasty personality and personal hangups are overshadowing everything else now.

Funny, that's what most of the city said about the pre-9/11 Rudy...

37 posted on 01/21/2004 9:42:00 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" -- John Maynard Keynes)
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To: Timesink

38 posted on 01/21/2004 9:46:56 PM PST by kcvl
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To: sinkspur
Hello?
Does no one remember that Atkins had a heart attack in June 2002? He allegedly had a congential heart condition.
40 posted on 01/21/2004 9:51:19 PM PST by LA Conservative (evil triumphs when good men do nothing)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I'd like to know what this guy's been eating?


41 posted on 01/21/2004 10:02:40 PM PST by ravinson
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To: H2dude
Do the atkins idiot diet and you will drop dead in ten years from a toxic liver!

The Atkins diet has been around for like thirty years. At some point there should have been a wave of this happening, if you were right. It never happened.

42 posted on 01/21/2004 10:29:23 PM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: LA Conservative
Does no one remember that Atkins had a heart attack in June 2002?

I thought it was a myocardial infection, not a heart atttack, no?

43 posted on 01/21/2004 10:38:28 PM PST by ikka
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To: NYC GOP Chick
That's easy for you to say...from West Virginia.

That's where I am NOW. I lived in Manhattan before coming down here (not by choice) and have every intention of returning before the next election.

And I voted for Rudy both times.

44 posted on 01/21/2004 10:40:24 PM PST by Timesink (Two fonts walk into a bar. The bartender says, "We don't serve your type here.")
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32-"FR is a well spring of Atkins disciples. I wonder if it has anything to do with common INTJ traits"

Interesting idea. Could be. I think we have a lot of INTJs here on FR.
45 posted on 01/22/2004 2:04:23 AM PST by XBob
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To: NYC GOP Chick; cyborg; All
Do any of youall new yorkers know what happened to the great New York hot dogs with 'skins' the street vendors used to have when I was a kid? Last time I was there, they seemed to have disappeared, and the hot dogs from vendors were not nearly as good, and you didn't have to 'bite' through the skins, and not as good a taste. (still good, but not exceptional like the old ones and the superb NY pizza slice)
46 posted on 01/22/2004 2:10:02 AM PST by XBob
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
New York deserves a total nut like Bloomberg. Except for Rudy, that's their pattern...total nut jobs in the Mayor's office.

47 posted on 01/22/2004 2:12:57 AM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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To: Snerfling
Oats, potatoes, rice, pasta, fruit/veggies, no butter/margarine (olive/canola oil), moderate portions of lean meat, etc. is all anyone needs to stay in shape.

So for the totality of humanity with all its variations and body types, it's a one diet fits all?

48 posted on 01/22/2004 2:19:38 AM PST by laredo44 (liberty is not the problem)
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To: XBob
I like the pretzels. No dirty water hotdogs for me, unless I'm hungry or need an intestinal washout.
49 posted on 01/22/2004 6:34:37 AM PST by cyborg
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To: NYC GOP Chick
You think thats bad..on my block earlier this week was a gas repair truck. I was driving my son to school and he had the driver door open as we passed he was taking a piss right into the street. My son laughed but I was totally discusted. If I was not in a rush I would have took the company info and plate and reported the pig.
50 posted on 01/22/2004 6:42:51 AM PST by alisasny (Thankyou to all who made 12/28 party so wonderful in NYC)
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